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sure...but..cmon...this is america...people gotta make a living (Reply to this comment)
by pakamn
People have to make a living...car sales man...managers...service department...car washers...porters...offfice people....may be you too if u have your own business and lets say you detail the car in that dealership...we all want a good deal, I agree, but me a s a sales man making 100 over invoice wont feed my family! and if you are negotiating gover a couple 100 s , may be you dont deserve that beautifull car that you want
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Jun 26 '05
6:02 pm PDT
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Good advice (Reply to this comment)
by tony_miller
Thanks for the great info. An excellent review that can only help in buying a new car.
Tony
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Sep 25 '00
11:37 am PDT
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Good advice (Reply to this comment)
by tony_miller
Thanks for the great info. An excellent review that can only help in buying a new car.
Tony
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Sep 25 '00
11:36 am PDT
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Thanks! (Reply to this comment)
by bill8643
I just went throught the experience of purchasing a new vehicle- 2000 Ford Ranger- first time in my life that I bought a new car/truck, and I am 48.
Bill
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Jul 24 '00
4:53 am PDT
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Holdback (Reply to this comment)
by jrwebley
An excellant piece! It just goes to show you how important your up front research is before buying. Holdback is on of the least understood aspects of the car purchase experience. Find out exactly what the holdback is on your vehicle before negotiating.
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May 24 '00
9:26 am PDT
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Good advice. (Reply to this comment)
by BR-549.5
I may be in the market for a new car soon and I appreciate the useful information.
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Apr 29 '00
4:29 am PDT
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BeEasyOnMe (Reply to this comment)
by BeEasyOnMe
It isn't fair for a dealer to make $450 in holdback on a $15000 car? Why don't you ask furniture salespeople about the 100% markup on furniture? Oh, but thats different. Car dealers are in business to make a profit. ALL businesses are there to make a profit. Why is it so illiegal for car dealers to make profit? I still haven't figured that one out.
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Mar 19 '00
7:20 pm PST
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facts, facts, and more facts. (Reply to this comment)
by robert_wright
I totally agree with this opinion. I've just recently brought a new car last summer. Before I brought my car, I consulted a car dealer "friend" of mine and he was telling me the same thing. I took my friend with me car shopping and when we were nogotiating you should have saw the dealer's face when my friend dropped the facts and figures on him.
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Jan 06 '00
10:06 am PST
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Re: Bonies7 (Reply to this comment)
by Bonies7
I'm not sure how to react to the comments above regarding my "female side". Thanks...but I can assure you I'm 100% male.
My wife is the feminine writer of our family...she writes here at Epinions under the member name "Amana97"....and I can assure you she's very feminine.
Jeff Clow (Bonies7)
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Dec 27 '99
7:33 am PST
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BROOKE-WOOD1 (Reply to this comment)
by brooke-wood1
Re: Invoice cost v. the Real Invoice by:
Bonies7
Bonies7 delights the reader with her humor. She includes details of a "ploy" to fool the consumer and a concrete example which explains how the ploy works. Bonies7 also suggests that the reader "read all of the epinions " which highlights some real feminine objectivity.
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Dec 26 '99
8:22 pm PST
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ivoice cost vs. real price (Reply to this comment)
by greatagent
Great advice. I am fairly savvy at car negotiating, (at least I thought) but the holdback was confusing. I thought I got a real good deal with my '98 Camry until I analyzed the entire transaction afterword. I wasn't prepared to "walk away from the deal," which is what Bonies7 advises. It won't happen again. Thanks.
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Dec 26 '99
6:30 pm PST
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I am shocked - *shocked* - (Reply to this comment)
by mshawpyle
It's like getting roulette advice at Rick's from Captain Reynaud. ('I am shocked - shocked - to find that gambling is going on this establishment.' 'Your winnings, Capitaine Reynaud.' 'Thank you.') After a youthful fling in the car bidness, thank God you stayed out of law school.
Superb piece, as ever.
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Dec 26 '99
4:22 pm PST
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