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Re: What About THE ENEMY BELOW? (Reply to this comment)
by George_Chabot,  in Movies
Paul, you are so right. The Enemy Below is a great WWII sub vs destroyer movie. My bad. Haven't seen that one since I was a kid. Bob Mitchum did his usual great job and Curt Jurgens, was fabulous. Thanks for the reminder!
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Sep 23 '03
5:41 pm PDT
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What About THE ENEMY BELOW? (Reply to this comment)
by colonialpara
George,
You forgot one of the better and more overlooked surface ship vs. sub movies ever made. THE ENEMY BELOW, made in 1958 starred Robert Mitchum as the Edsall Class DE captain and Curt Jurgens as the U-boat skipper who is tired of the Nazi b.s. but endeavors to beat his enemy nonetheless.
I thought the juxtaposition of the two skippers, the maneuvering by both ships and the cat and mouse tactics were especially well done.
What was a real classic of chivalry at sea was when Mitchum went back for the U-boat captain who had remained on the bridge of his dying boat because he wouldn't leaving his dying XO, Heinie Schwaffer to die alone.
Mitchum, as the US skipper rescues both and gets them off safely; the German XO dies later and is fittingly, buried at sea off the fantail of the U.S. destroyer that rescues both crews.
At the end Mitchum and Jurgens share a cigarette. The German skipper questions the American and comments on his motives. Mitchum tells him that next time he won't throw him a line.
Jurgens as the defeated and now POW former U-boat captain answers simply, "oh I think you will."
All in all a great naval ASW-sub tactics and battle movie and set in the South Atlantic, away from most shipping lanes.
Paul Connors
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Sep 23 '03
12:20 pm PDT
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Re: I think the slowness (Reply to this comment)
by George_Chabot, in Movies
Yes, I thought it was well done and especially the propaganda aspects were a nice and not often seen touch. Ford was certainly playing a deeper character than usual. Thanks for the pertinent comments, Panguitch!
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Sep 22 '03
3:06 pm PDT
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I think the slowness (Reply to this comment)
by panguitch
can be partially chalked up to Ntl Geographic's hand in the film.
Ford's character, yeah, the handling was questionable. But I'm somewhat sympathetic. The poor guy is under pressure to perform. That doesn't absolve him. But makes him understandable.
I too enjoyed the propaganda. The Hollywood attempt to portray things from the Soviet POV was the most interesting part of the flick for me.
-Andy
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Sep 22 '03
12:21 pm PDT
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Re: ---------- (Reply to this comment)
by George_Chabot, in Movies
Isn't Bigelow a babe!?!?) Oh yeah! She's right up there on the babeness scale!
[Ford] ...career best... was magnetic, vivid, yet the character felt lived-in and very admirably modulated. Yep, this was the biggest stretch for Harrison I've seen yet.
my favorite submarine adventure ever (and, yes, I've seen "Das Boot"). Well, bud, submarine adventures are an acquired taste. I'll agree this is among the top, but RS,RD with Lancaster/Gable and Das Boot, well, it's too damn close to call! Glad you were able to make it all the way thru DB as it's a l-o-n-g film. The director's cut actually is better than the std version, if you can believe that. The sound really creeps you out.
Glad we once again agree on a super film, old pal!
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Sep 21 '03
6:30 pm PDT
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