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Re: Re:+Re:+Very+well+done (Reply to this comment)
by nwinston
In Oregon, prior to open records, a new BC was
issued upon the judge's decree of adoption. The
adoption bc looked like the original.
There was no way to tell that an adoption
happened from it. Prior to our open records
measure, I was told that it was a felony for us
to posess the original BC without the birthfamily's
consent - so we got the BC and consent prior to
filing with the courts. Now we have 2 BCs for
our son. I'd like the BC's to show the pre-
adopt info and the new info. I'm not sure what
they look like now. I'll have my son file for
his in a few years when he reaches majority and
then we'll know.
Thanks for all your comments.
Fellow BN'er,
Nancy
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Apr 25 '01
6:58 am PDT
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Re: Re:+Very+well+done (Reply to this comment)
by AliventiAsylum
I guess it works differently here in New York. My birth certificate already indicates that it's amended, so even if my parents had never made me aware that I was adopted, I would know something was up just by looking at my birth certificate.
And I would take it that an adoptee would have to go in and specifically ask for their OBC to get it in Oregon? Too bad. Going in for your BC and being asked "Original or Amended?" would go a long way to undermining the lies that were told.
Again, great review.
Patti
(member of BN)
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Apr 25 '01
3:34 am PDT
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Re: An+inspiration (Reply to this comment)
by nwinston
Thanks! It can be done ethically and fairly
easily. Check into your state laws. I have
cousins who changed states when starting
their careers to one more favorable to adoptive
parents.
Good luck!
Nancy
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Apr 24 '01
9:45 am PDT
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An inspiration (Reply to this comment)
by LatteChick
I know that I am going to adopt when I finally decide to have a family. None of my friends can understand my decision, and I don’t know why. It’s great to hear from someone who has experience, not only with an adopted child but also a birth child. I salute you.
~Becka~
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Apr 24 '01
8:26 am PDT
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Re: Very+well+done (Reply to this comment)
by nwinston
Thanks - I worked on the initiative so I am aware
of it. Didn't add it because it was so long
already.
The secrecy still exists though. I have met
many people who did private who aren't planning
to tell their children they are adopted so
the children will have no reason to search
their records when they turn adult. Very sad
and against my beliefs.
Nancy
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Apr 24 '01
6:55 am PDT
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Very well done (Reply to this comment)
by AliventiAsylum
As an adoptee who has supported the open records initiative in Oregon (maybe you should add that - all adoptees in Oregon (Alaska, Kansas & Alabama too) can get unrestricted access to their original birth certificate at age 21) I was so ready to either NH or email you why I could not rate it when you were talking about the lawyers and privacy. There is no greater breech of trust than lying to your child and "pretending" that he or she was your birth-child when he/she was adopted is a complete breech of trust. If the child knows and you do not tell anyone else, then you are saying that being adopted is something to be ashamed of.
But you got into fantastic territory about children needing parents and not the other way around. That's what I've been trying to get across to people for years.
Your son has amazing parents :-)
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Apr 24 '01
3:47 am PDT
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Your very detailed.... (Reply to this comment)
by 1truluv
And informative review will surely help someone out, who is looking to adopt. Thanks for the information.
Louise
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Apr 24 '01
2:59 am PDT
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Re: Thank+you (Reply to this comment)
by nwinston
Agreed! Thanks for doing a great job at a non-
profit. Difficult and important work. I wrote
this partly because I get tired of hearing about
how all adoptions are risky and how fearful
people are of it after seeing 20/20 or similar
shows. I think there is too much focus on getting
babies for adults to parent and not enough on
finding children homes when needed.
Thanks for commenting!
Nancy
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Apr 23 '01
5:36 pm PDT
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Thank you (Reply to this comment)
by Yzerman
for a well written description of agency adoption. I have worked for a non-profit adoption agency for 12 years. My agency has been doing adopitons for 62 years and we have NEVER had a placement disrupted. I have never even had a birth mother come back later and say she made a mistake and wants her baby back. I would like to think it's because of the quality of counseling we give them before, during and after placement.
Anyway, this was a great and informative article and I hope you get hundreds of hits on it, because people need to finally hear something good about adoption!!
Diane
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Apr 23 '01
5:30 pm PDT
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