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Nicely done (Reply to this comment)
by dlockeretz
Great writing, you obviously seem to endorse/ agree with Zissner's clear, no-nonsense style.
DL
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Sep 08 '01 3:52 pm PDT
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I wanted to write... (Reply to this comment)
by Schlamozzel
... a review like this one, but you beat me to it. :(
Well, I guess it's 6 in one hand, a half dozen in the other.
I haven't seen anything written like this in a coon's (raccoon) age.
But I'll bet writing like this is a doosey for you.
Schlamozzel
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Sep 08 '01 5:11 am PDT
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Re: HAH! (Reply to this comment)
by MzRizz
Detonate, that is funny! If that wasn't so funny, I would say you were gross!....MzRizz.
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Aug 31 '01 2:50 pm PDT
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Re: Check+this+out! (Reply to this comment)
by MzRizz
Interesting, I will certainly look at that one. Thanks...MzRizz
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Aug 31 '01 2:45 pm PDT
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Check this out! (Reply to this comment)
by lambchops
A university in Michigan (Lake Superior State University) published a list that would interest you. It's published all over the world on the new year every year. They take submissions :)
http://www.lssu.edu/banished/
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Aug 31 '01 7:40 am PDT
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HAH! (Reply to this comment)
by flamepillar
This is good! A lot of times, I do find myself using those expressions without even thinking about it. On the other hand, I do have a few expressions of my own that I reserve for when I'm talking to my sister, who is the only one who knows what they mean. One such expression is as follows.
Cut in front and detonate refers to someone spoiling your plans in any way, shape or form. The origin of this one is complicated. I was writing about this one morning in school when I was walking out of the bathroom and Coach Gregg was walking in the hall, and I just came right out and cut in front of him, and then farted. So since I have often referred to farting as detonating (it is an explosion, after all), that's how I came up with "cut in front and detonate". Or you can go all out with the N sound and say "cuttin' in front n' detonatin'"
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Aug 31 '01 5:45 am PDT
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Re: Two+Points (Reply to this comment)
by MzRizz
Thanks for that info on "pushing the envelope." I know that cliches evolve at some point and time and it would be interesting to know the origination of others. I take issue when they are overused. There is a difference between cliches and some trite phrases, maybe "monkey's uncle is a trite phrase. Thanks...MzRizz.
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Aug 26 '01 5:49 pm PDT
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Two Points (Reply to this comment)
by neomartin
[1] "Pushing the envelope" is a cliche which originated after World War II when airplanes were moving from propeller-driven engines to jet engines. Test pilots were determining how far a prototype aircraft could be pushed before it fell apart. While test pilots still do that, in the early days there was a frightening wall known as the sound barrier which hadn't been pierced until 1947 when Chuck Yeager made his historic flight. "Pushing the envelope" was meant to symbolize the testing of limits both to see what was beyond the limits as well as to redefine the limits so that was had been beyond them is now within them.
[2] Cliches are trite, but cliches are based on truth. Cliches by themselves are neither good nor bad-- they simply exist in language. What matters is how we choose to use cliches. We all should strive for freshness in our speech and writing, but we can't speak or write like who we aren't. I have no problems with cliches as long as they make sense and fit into an opinion. Most writing which causes people to cringe comes not from "cliches" but rather from "figures of speech"-- "Well I'll be a monkey's uncle" is not a cliche but a figure of speech.
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Aug 26 '01 4:39 pm PDT
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More cliches (Reply to this comment)
by a_r_egerton
You assembled a nice little list, but you forgot these guys:
"It rocks!"
"It rules!"
"It sucks!"
"Edgy" and its relatives
"Extreme" and its kin
One irony is that words like "edgy" and "extreme" are used to suggest rebelliousness or risk-taking--and people who use such cliches are not famous for either trait.
-Ann
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Aug 26 '01 12:38 pm PDT
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Thanks! (Reply to this comment)
by grimjack2
Great list, and great comments!
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Aug 26 '01 12:35 pm PDT
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Re: .Thanks on the Titanic figure (Reply to this comment)
by MzRizz
I was close, did adjust that time span...thanks for your clever comments on cliches..looks like I need to find some new ones....mzrizz
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Aug 26 '01 12:01 pm PDT
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Re: Well+I'll+be+a+Monkey's+Uncle... (Reply to this comment)
by blimbach
Delightful comment!
Bev
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Aug 26 '01 11:51 am PDT
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Re: The+reason+for+my+rating.. (Reply to this comment)
by MzRizz
The reason I put this here is as another commenter noted, it is to help people to consider the use of cliches before they begin a review, thanks for your comment but I think I will keep it here.....MzRizz
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Aug 26 '01 9:51 am PDT
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Good advice!! (Reply to this comment)
by RobinLynn
You offer some good advice...I will be watching and editing my reviews after reading yours more carefully!
Thanks!
Robin
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Aug 26 '01 9:48 am PDT
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by diamion
I agree mostly with you, but several of these that you listed are still effective, truthful and modern. "there's more than what meets the eye" is one, as is "tip of the iceberg" and so on (BTW the Titanic did NOT sink over 100 years ago...) Some are almost stupid, like "dead as a door nail" which can go, but cliches will always exist, and many are still effective and proper for describing things and situations.
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Aug 26 '01 8:55 am PDT
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Re: The+reason+for+my+rating.. (Reply to this comment)
by luvrdaisy
why doesn't it belong here? Surely it is helpful to know that clichés are abnnoying before you begin writing a review... certainly this reminds me to try not to use them... before I begin writing a review...
I dunno but I think it's fine where it is?
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Aug 26 '01 8:49 am PDT
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The reason for my rating.. (Reply to this comment)
by momsworkinlate
Epinions asked
"Before you begin writing a review, what do you do? Some members write outlines, others read existing reviews to determine what issues have already been discussed."
While your review is interesting it doesn't really fit this description. Perhaps it would be better placed in General Comments. General Comments is an umbrella of sorts for Epinions articles. Placed here this review isn't really helpful to this category.
If you move this please email me. I'd be happy to rerate.
Laurie
Momsworkinlate
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Aug 26 '01 8:26 am PDT
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