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by underdawg
Wow that totally sucks that your review was stolen. Good luck straightening that out with them...
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Jul 25 '05 4:29 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: No offense (Reply to this comment)
by shoplmart, in Cars & Motorsports
You have to keep us updated on what that magazine says..
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Jul 25 '05 9:58 am PDT
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Re: Re: No offense (Reply to this comment)
by gym-378
You are correct...anger outweighed everything and it still does. Am I flattered? I suppose a bit. I am very proud of this review and have gotten great feedback from several people who felt it helped them in the process of purchasing a motorcycle, so I'm glad that the great people of Florida had a chance to read it in print ;)
Unfortunately, the anger over it being stolen word for word, pretty much eclipsed those happy feelings.
I will be very interested to see what the Managing Editor and Director of New Technologies (Their Web Site) have to say about this.
Thanks all for your comments!
-gym-378
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Jul 24 '05 9:23 am PDT
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No offense (Reply to this comment)
by pvreditor, in Cars & Motorsports
It's clear to me that this essay is not plagiarised and that it is your work. I'm sorry about the elevated blood pressure... my intent was only to ensure that the content here was yours.
I'm not sure that I'd do anything differently but you've certainly raised my sensitivity!
--Bob
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Jul 22 '05 3:11 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Plagiarized (Reply to this comment)
by gym-378
Bob,
You're right and I apologize for hitting back so hard. It took me by surprise to find that someone had stolen my work and then to be accused of plagairism was a bit much. Sorry for hitting you with both barrels, but I still think this would have been best served with a private email.
-gym-378
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Jul 22 '05 2:44 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Plagiarized (Reply to this comment)
by pvreditor, in Cars & Motorsports
I am also a professional author, thus my interest in ferretting out instances of plagiarism.
Note that I said that this was an instance of "apparent" plagiarism and asked you for an explanation. I've read through my few remarks -- most was copied text from your essay and the article in Florida Today -- and see nothing that qualifies as "wiseacre" remarks. I spotted something that looked like plagiarism and asked for an explanation or for your essay to be deleted.
I'll do a bit more research on this and may decide to change my rating. I have to say that a less hostile response from you would likely get faster action from me.
--Bob
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Jul 22 '05 1:38 pm PDT
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FYI (Reply to this comment)
by bob_tomato
to view the original post as it appeared on epinions:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020112041517/http://www.epinions.com/content_2404753540
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Jul 22 '05 10:59 am PDT
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Nice! (Reply to this comment)
by annecal
My husband has a 2001 Daytona 955 and a 2005 Tiger, both Triumph. Love riding with him.
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Jul 22 '05 9:21 am PDT
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Re: Plagiarized (Reply to this comment)
by gym-378
Let's see...as an advisor in this group, maybe you should do a few things before you start accusing your own Epinions members of plagiarizing:
1) Place the benefit of the doubt on the Epinions member...since they are a member of your community that your supposed to be supporting.
2) Do the research. If you look at the article, you'll see that it is MY ARTICLE stolen from Epinions. I run UnitedBikers.com, so I know that's how it's my article. Also, the Google info says it was retrieved from Florida today on December 23, 2004. Maybe instead of wiseacre comments about how my article managed to be in Florida today, you ought to take a look at the date on my article....hmmmm.....December 09, 2001.
As a professional author (yes...I actually do this for a living), I take EXTREME offense to unresearched accusations of plagiarism. From an ADVISOR, I take it as a breach of your responsibilities to this organization that I have contributed significant content to and I will be following up on this.
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Jul 22 '05 8:24 am PDT
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Plagiarized (Reply to this comment)
by pvreditor, in Cars & Motorsports
This essay is apparently plagiarized.
Here is a quote from this essay:
Several different factors effect what bike you choose. First, what style of bike are you looking for? Maybe you want a cruiser that turns heads as you cruise the boulevard. Maybe you want a tourer complete with cupholders and cd player that will get you around on cross-country trips. Maybe your a dirt rider that wants the newest four-stroke 250 that'll burn dirtmounds and send you flying high. Or maybe it's a superbike with more power and torque than any piece of machinery should legally have. Whatever your style, it's yours.
Once you know what style you want, it's time to pick a make and model. When you pick a make, don't go with whatever everyone else tells you to buy. For instance, if you mention that you want a cruiser to your work colleagues, they'll likely ask you "what kind of Harley you're buying". Likewise, those that mention they are buying a tourer often get the couch on wheels, Goldwing remarks.
Forget them...go to the dealerships. Look at the bikes. SIT on the bikes (you'd be surprised how reluctant people are to hop on a bike at the dealership -- that's what they're there for). Get a feel for the balance or different models, determine whether the controls are comfortable and within reach. See if you can place your feet flat on the ground safely.
This is from a publication called "Florida Today" and can be found at http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:gp18ppnWIzYJ:www.flatoday.com/sections/recreation/1209bike.htm "you cruise the boulevard"&hl=en
Several different factors affect what bike you choose. First, what style of bike are you looking for? Maybe you want a cruiser that turns heads as you cruise the boulevard. Maybe you want a tourer complete with cup-holders and CD player that will get you around on cross-country trips. Maybe you are a dirt rider that wants the newest four-stroke 250 that'll burn dirt-mounds and send you flying high. Or maybe it's a super-bike with more power and torque than any piece of machinery should legally have.
Once you know what style you want, it's time to pick a make and model. When you pick a make, don't go with whatever everyone else tells you to buy.
Buy what you want. For instance, if you mention that you want a cruiser to your work colleagues, they'll likely ask you "what kind of Harley you're buying." Likewise, those that mention they are buying a tourer often get the couch on wheels, Goldwing remarks. Forget them ... go to the dealerships. Look at the bikes. SIT on the bikes.
You should delete this essay or explain to us how this happened to be in Florida Today and end up on Epinions. If you do offer an explanation, be sure to e-mail me to let me know.
--Bob
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Jul 21 '05 6:50 am PDT
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words of wisdom (Reply to this comment)
by charivarius
I'm moving to Japan soon, don't have a heckuvalot of scratch, and understand space will be an issue over there--in short, I'm thinking of buying a bike after I move. Your words were very helpful in emphasizing what a first-time buyer like myself should be on the lookout for. Thanks!
Chari
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Sep 18 '03 11:15 am PDT
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You forgot the most important thing... (Reply to this comment)
by sleeper54
...know how to ride before you buy a motorcycle!!
I wanted to ride a motorcycle years ago. Had my first job, and a few dollars saved so I went out to buy one. Bought a 350cc Honda streetbike. Dealer employee showed me the controls, how to add gas and oil and that was it. So I jumped on it and drove away. Less than two blocks from the dealership I managed to mis-judge a corner and scraped the side of my _brand_new_bike_ down a brick retaining wall. Lucky I didn't scrape my leg off the wall!! :-)
Loved your review, lots of pertinent points.
sleeper54
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Feb 05 '02 8:29 pm PST
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