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Propane: Treat It With Respect
by the_gas_man | Feb 04 '02
Almost everything you didn't want to know about propane, and heaters we burn them in. Is it a liquid or a gas? Was it a prehistoric animal or plant? Yes.

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Re: Breathe marsh gas! Explain the threat, please. (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Hi Patrick,

Marsh gas is just another name for methane, CH4 and is relatively harmless. The exception in the gas fields is Sour Gas, which contains hydrogen sulphide and is very deadly. It is thoroughly scrubbed before being piped to homes. So the gas in your house is safe to inhale.

In the old days, predominantly in places like England manufactured gas contained high levels of carbon monoxide and that is where many of the myths came from. There is very little of that anymore around the world.

Regards,
The Gasman
Nov 12 '09
7:33 am PST

Breathe marsh gas! Explain the threat, please. (Reply to this comment)
by aohcapablanca
Brother Gasman,

I read all 19 previous comments, including your own on the merits of seriousness v. humor and a ribald riposte or two. Well done, as always. Thanks.

You wrote:

"Unlike the manufactured gases of the old days, all of these natural gases are non-toxic and harmless if inhaled."

This reminded me that in the late 1940s more literate wags at the Jesuit high school I attended would curse their foes with, "Breathe marsh gas, rodent" or "Breathe methane, maggot."

This has left a lingering feeling down the decades that both gases are at least unpleasant to breathe and maybe fatal.

Thanks for dispelling that lore for methane.

What about marsh gas? Or are they the same?

AOHCAPABLANCA/Patrick K
Nov 10 '09
3:14 am PST

Re: Re: Re: your comment to sounds (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Not a very good comparison to what we were discussing "sounds". I will not, ever, try to censor anyone and I really don't care what kinds of comments you wish to leave on other people's reviews. The Clowns I was referring to, and you know who they are, are not serious about this site. If you've read any of my reviews, you would see that, most, are on serious subject matters. The stuff those clowns write is more suited to school yards and bathroom walls.

Yeah, I like to think I've got a sense of humor, but, give me a break. You honestly think those clowns are writing funny material??? They're juvenile clowns and if you want to join the circus, feel free. Personally, I don't like clowns, they bother me.

It looks like everyone with a "_head" in their handle lately is just a clown. So feel free to read em, rate em and add them to your WOT. Just don't try to tell me they're harmless funny guys.

Gasman
Feb 21 '02
11:44 am PST

Re: Re: your comment to sounds (Reply to this comment)
by sounds
Point taken and thank you, but I do find some comedy Very Helpful. I will make sure not to be so vulgar. I was under the assumption we are all adults and can handle some nonsense. WARNING Reading your below article on HUMAN GAS you are just a few steps ahead of the guys that do not take Epinions seriously.

sounds

Feb 17 '02
4:19 pm PST

"Another Gem!" (Reply to this comment)
by ExBrave
Great review, or should I say lesson!

I worked in "Underground Lines and Main's" as a laborer for Long Island Lighting Company, many years ago. I also worked on LP motorized forklifts. Even after working with both types of gases, I learned more from your review than my own hands on application.

Mike(ExBrave)
Feb 15 '02
6:01 am PST

Re: your comment to sounds (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Sounds, from the way you write your reviews and the ratings you get on them, I have no doubt that you do take writing seriously. Unfortunately, those other clowns don't. They go from profile to profile leaving disturbing comments and generally acting stupid. So when any member encourages that kind of behaviour with VH comments to their child like reviews and leaves disgusting comments like the one you left for the whole site to read, I have to assume you're one of them. I'm not a cop pal, and I'm not going to follow you around and bust you and your friends. I don't have the time or the inclination.

If you want to be taken seriously, you know what to do.

Regards,
Gasman
Feb 14 '02
6:23 am PST

your comment to sounds (Reply to this comment)
by sounds
That comment was not intended for you, I take writing and reviewing seriously. When someone makes a joke, I will joke along with them but not with unwilling participants.

Sorry, sounds

Feb 13 '02
6:05 pm PST

All I ever wanted to know about Gas..... (Reply to this comment)
by hugh_u_kidden
but was afraid to ask. :) Nicely done...good stuff.
Feb 10 '02
2:30 am PST

Re: It's the first time.... (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Thank you kindly Teresa, for both the ratings and the nice comments.

All the best,
Gasman
Feb 06 '02
2:17 pm PST

It's the first time.... (Reply to this comment)
by teresarg
I rate 3 reviews MH all at a time:)
Great, great and most helpful reviews.

I'll be glad to continue reading your past and next reviews:)

Take care

Teresa
Feb 06 '02
1:37 pm PST

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another illuminating review (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Just blowing smoke up yer kilt laddie. No need to hang your head in shame. Just start drinking the national drink of Scotland and support the local economy like a good Scot. Hell, I do it all the way from Canada, and I'm paying premium prices for what the Scots don't drink themselves.

All the best,
Gasman
Feb 05 '02
10:36 am PST

Re: Re: Re: Re: Another illuminating review (Reply to this comment)
by proxam
That's me well and truly told.

*Shuffling off hanging my head in shame*

Andrew
Feb 05 '02
10:08 am PST

Re: So....Bad Kitty. So Very Bad. (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Dear Badkitty,

Tough questions! I had no idea you were so interested in the science of fuel gases. I thought you were into fluffy kitty type subject matter. Well, I'll try my best to answer your questions.

Scientists are no closer to determining the exact origin of the dark art of igniting gaseous flatulence. The fuel gases themselves are somewhat similar to the gases formed under the "Organic Theory". Organic materials under temperature and pressure trigger a chemical reaction which creates methane. Although in the case of human production, the production of methane is a much faster chain reaction with regards to certain organic materials, such as beans.

One might assume that prehistoric man or perhaps woman, discovered the upper explosive limits and flammability characteristics by accident. Perhaps, by bending over to pick up a rock in a cave, with his or her back to the fire, and accidentally expelling a large quantity of methane through their main orifice directly into the fire. The resulting blue flames would have most certainly raised that person in tribal stature, to shaman or even the new leader of the tribe.

Some scientists believe that just such early occurances in the development of humankind may have lead to the present day sayings directed towards leaders of companies and countries, such as that person is full of it. Which makes them a great leader. Someone to be in awe of, for their ability to emit flames from their orifice.

It could even be the primary reason why men in particular will go to great lengths to demonstrate their prowness in this field of endeavor. Although, with woman's liberation, there have been quite a number of woman competing for top gas producer status.

To answer your second question, as flatulent fuel gases are primarily methane, they are lighter than air. Although there are no reference books for me to determine their exact specific gravity. I am going to guessimate that the specific gravity would be similar to other methane gases which tend to be around .6 or 6/10ths of the weight of an equal volume of air.
Therefore it rises very quickly and dissipates in the ambient air. Once diluted with fresh air, it is no longer combustible, also the natural odourants are diluted very quickly.

With regards to your third question, it would be theoretically possible to create a very small flash fire, if sufficient methane were injected and trapped under bedsheets and a comforter. The air pocket would need to be fairly enclosed and dome shaped and the amount of gas required for proper ignition would likely require the work of more than one person. The resulting flash fire would not likely be too dangerous however, it could burn off a few hairs.

Spontaneous human combustion could very well be a result of someone who is completely and utterly filled with methane gas. So filled that it is seeping through the pores in their skin. This unfortunate condition would not be harmful to the person, providing there is no source of ignition. As methane requires between 1100 and 1200 degrees F in order to be ignited. So a lit match, a cigarette or a strong spark could be enough to set them off. Fortunately, the number of reported cases is rare, for there seems to be few people on earth that are so full of it.

Thank you for your questions. I trust I have provided you with the answers you were looking for. Always happy to help if I can.

Take care. Woof!

Regards
Gasman

Feb 05 '02
9:51 am PST

Re: Re: Re: Another illuminating review (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Andrew,

Yer a cheeky wee bugger of a laddie. I may have made a spelling mistake in my comment to you but, ah donut wory sew much aboat mi spilling whiskey, cauze ah, likes ta drank it moore then spilling it.

So you finally admit that most Scots get all of their technical information from an American cartoon. God help ya laddie!

What? I'm not animated enough for you?

A pound a page would be good value for your money lad and good value for money is something else the Scots invented. (Or was it the Scotch, I can never get that straight:-)

What is this world coming to when a Scot admits to knowing very little about his national drink. Get yourself down to the Tally Ho Tavern boyo and have a few drams of The Glen.

Hank Hill indeed...

Regards,
Gasman
Feb 05 '02
5:43 am PST

Re: Extremely Thorough Review (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Very kind of you to say so. I like to think that in this particular department, I have some good information to share. Sometimes simply sharing basic knowledge can help someone out there avoid serious injuries or worse.

That's what sites like Epinions is all about to some people.

Take care,
Regards,
Gasman
Feb 05 '02
5:30 am PST

Re: =) (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Merci beaucoup!

I was concerned about getting too far into the topic but, it's the kind of "stuff" I like to know about, so why shouldn't others? I'll probably bring down the disfavour of the Epinions God for over writing, but I can't help it sometimes.

Ciao,
Gasman
Feb 05 '02
5:23 am PST

Re: Re: Another illuminating review (Reply to this comment)
by proxam
Don't you watch "King of the hill"?

Funnily enough I know hee haw about Scotch whisky......apart from how to spell it correctly!!!

Pay a pound for your review? Isn't the cash that epinions "pay" you enough?

Andrew
Feb 05 '02
5:16 am PST

Extremely Thorough Review (Reply to this comment)
by OpalMan
Gasman,

I have to say this is one of the most thorough reviews I have seen here at Epinions. Wonderful job. Hank Hill, by the way is an animated character known more for his mishaps than his knowledge.

James
Feb 04 '02
11:35 pm PST

=) (Reply to this comment)
by Lisa_J
Excellent information!

Thanks for the delightful review....

Cheers and Hugs~
Lisa_J
Feb 04 '02
11:35 pm PST

Re: Another illuminating review (Reply to this comment)
by the_gas_man
Andrew,

Maybe if you had to pay a pound for each of my opinions, you would feel more inclined to rely on them. You should know by now, The Gasman knows about gas, if nothing else. Thanks for stopping by. Where do I get the best scotch whiskey when I come over there? I trust you would know.

Regards,
Gasman

(P.S. Who the hell is Hank Hill?)
Feb 04 '02
8:18 pm PST

Another illuminating review (Reply to this comment)
by proxam
I usually get all my advice about propane and propane products from "Hank Hill".
But you seem to know what you're talking about, well I assume you do.
Of course you could just be relying on the fact that we are all ignorant about GAS and feeding us all a line.
A gas line, that is.

Andrew
Feb 04 '02
4:43 pm PST