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The greatest westerns not set in "the West"
by Stephen_Murray | Aug 14 '02
Three lists for the price of one?

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"Only the Valiant" (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
Another I've never heard of, let alone seen (whereas "The Bravados" is, I think, the one on the list I've most recently seen). Maybe it will pop on the western channel.

Bob Dylan's plot summary in "Brownsville Girl" helped "The Gunfighter" make it.
Aug 17 '02
10:37 am PDT

Of course, Stephen, (Reply to this comment)
by George_Chabot, George_Chabot is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
you have submitted a most exquisite list, as I knew you would.

For the Gregory Peck slot, might I suggest as an alternative to "The Gunfighter," the dark cavalry thriller, 1951's "Only the Valiant?" A superior cavalry film and if I may be so impertinent, I believe it blows Ford's cav trilogy out of the sagebrush (and remember, I'm a BIG fan!!)
Aug 17 '02
6:54 am PDT

"The Naked Spur" (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
Stewart is as obsessive in that as in "Vertigo" until the end and Robert Ryan's change of pace to smiley is interesting. However, either Janet Leigh or her character in it make no sense--with mood swings that I don't think are intended to be playing a schizophrenic. I prefer "Winchester 73" though it lacks the scenic color, but both it and "Naked Spur" take place east of the Sierra Nevadas/Cascades in the so-called "west."
Aug 16 '02
10:12 am PDT

"The Hired Hand" (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
You've come up with one I'd never heard of, let alone seen. The epinions database hasn't heard ot it either, alas.
Aug 16 '02
10:07 am PDT

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by WilliamJones
I don't know which of the Anthony Mann films with James Stewart ranging from irritable to psychotic is the best (and have been told that the one I haven't seen, "The Man from Laramie" is the best), but the one that fits on this list is The Far Country (1955) in which Stewart has some difficulties in getting cattle from Seattle to Alaska.

Thank you for mentioning these Anthony Mann films. All the ones I've seen (and I, too, have yet to see "The Man from Laramie") are excellent.

One you didn't mention that is a particular favorite is The Naked Spur.

Terrific picks!

Bill
Aug 15 '02
2:14 pm PDT

Neat-o! (Reply to this comment)
by wordwalker
What a distinctive idea for the 'Western' list! I agree that your choices all contain the essence of what a Western is -- or should be. Great job!
Aug 15 '02
12:50 pm PDT

Re:Shane (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
It is set in "the West" and has some western elements, but despite the title, I think it is about the child (Brandon de Wilde). It seems that most of my picks are about gunfighters who feel their time is past.

Whatever genre it is, "Shane" is a great film.
Aug 14 '02
2:16 pm PDT

:-) (Reply to this comment)
by jankp
Walter Huston plays Walter Brennan? Really??

Nice list, Steve.

Jan
Aug 14 '02
1:24 pm PDT

Interesting category, westerns not actually in the west.... (Reply to this comment)
by NFP
...and all told some very good picks. As to Shane, can't imagine why it wouldn't be a western. I always thought of it as one. Also, the climactic wrestling scene in Shane was...I believe...the first time such a fight was shot from a camera placed anywhere but at shoulder level. The shot of the two fighters rolling on the ground as they punch and kick was shot with a camera on the ground, a technique almost as electrifying as the epochal opening shot of Citizen Kane with the camera panning down through the roof.

cheers,

nick
Aug 14 '02
1:11 pm PDT
   

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