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Re: Machaut as author? (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Machaut's Remede de fortune is both his music and poetry... it was a great influence on Chaucer. He wrote a vast quantity of love poems and adventures... some end with his name anagrammed and scambled as an acrostic in the last stanzas...
Well, I bored myself to sleep with that answer. Hope it helps.
--John
(Curious that you-- checking your profile, we have many tastes in common-- managed to squeak by without further comment... Quite mysterious, you!)
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Jul 23 '03
3:15 am PDT
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Machaut as author? (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
I've sung some of his music, but wasn't aware that he's known as an author. What did he auth?
Margaret
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Jul 22 '03
4:08 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Amazing List!!! (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Glegary Glenross was his only good play. Oleanna makes me want to deafen myself so I won't have to listen to his stuttered dialogue.
OK, he can have that effect. You know how certain artists/authors etc. will come and go out of your life as you evolve in your own tastes? Well, Mamet was THERE for me in my late teens. What has he done for me lately? Not much.
Truffaut- I love 400 Blows, whenever I tell anyone this, they think I'm into porn. But it'sa great movie.
Can't you both be into 400 Blows AND porn, like me? Anyway, speaking of charm and what brought me round to your side, Truffaut's Don't Shoot The Piano Player... there's charm for ya.
I doubt I'd be good in a French movie, I'm not androgynist enough.
Come on-- Brigette Bardot, Catherine Deneuve, Julie Delpy, Emmanuel Beart, Anna Karenina... androgynous!
Mandarin? No, Japanese and Russian.
Gomen nasai! Saru mo ki kara ochiru...
--John-san/Ivan
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Jul 18 '03
10:05 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Amazing List!!! (Reply to this comment)
by kris-kochanski
Glegary Glenross was his only good play. Oleanna makes me want to deafen myself so I won't have to listen to his stuttered dialogue.
Truffaut- I love 400 Blows, whenever I tell anyone this, they think I'm into porn. But it'sa great movie.
I doubt I'd be good in a French movie, I'm not androgynist enough. Mandarin? No, Japanese and Russian.
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Jul 17 '03
11:25 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Amazing List!!! (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Gorey and Hitchcock were robbed!
5s it must be!
Sorry. That's the house rules: no lobbying.
I agree with Truffaut, one my faves.
Too bad you didn't star in one of his films. You would look great in black and white, and with a jazzy score accompanying your mandarin smile. Very French, very sassy...
Mamet! (pukes) Please no. Well at least you didn't give him a 5.
Hey, Glengary Glenross is a great play! Aw Jeese, you got puke on my shoe!
--John
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Jul 16 '03
2:51 am PDT
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Re: Re: Amazing List!!! (Reply to this comment)
by kris-kochanski
Gorey and Hitchcock were robbed!
5s it must be!
I agree with Truffaut, one my faves.
Mamet! (pukes) Please no. Well at least you didn't give him a 5.
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Jul 15 '03
8:39 pm PDT
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Re: Amazing List!!! (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Howdy!
This is an amazing collection you've put together!!! I've never seen anything quite like it, and I know I'll be looking it over time and again!
I'm so pleased you liked it... The list took forever to compile (and longer to live it). It's nice to know you'll be coming back to it, as you mentioned; that's an honor.
John
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Mar 16 '03
4:40 pm PST
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Amazing List!!! (Reply to this comment)
by AinsleyJo
This is an amazing collection you've put together!!! I've never seen anything quite like it, and I know I'll be looking it over time and again!
Anxious to get over to your next bunch!
I love lists like this!
Write On!
AJ :o)
P.S. In case you're wondering, I found you because (1)You were easy to notice as the most recent person added to 29th_Candidate's WOT, and (2) Your handle was so intriguing that I had to meet the person behind it! Not at all disappointed!!! :o)
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Mar 15 '03
6:53 pm PST
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Re: Yikes! (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Funny you should mention it! When you check out the other list, I think you'll be pleased to find a pantheon pre-16 section, devoted to those who once held sway over me, some of whom I have left behind in the evolution of my tastes (if that isn't too snobbish a sounding term!) In that category, you'd find Dali (a charlatan, I tell you, but I once loved him); and Liszt (ditto). Motley Crue? Not quite, but I had (seriously) an infatuation with all Pink Floyd albums, from Piper... through the bitter end. Well, I still admire poor Syd B., but the rest... no thanks. I'd rather watch TV... Speaking of shameful influences: The Love Boat? Oh yeah...
--John
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Feb 12 '03
9:48 pm PST
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Yikes! (Reply to this comment)
by fartzarellah
After reading a comment you made on doginacio's Mozart Vs. Bach review, I just had to see what else you've written here. Quite the list you have, I'm looking forward to reading 251-500! It seems it would be very hard to be totally honest with oneself when making this list. I have to wonder: have you left off some artists you really love but are embarassed to pledge allegiance to? I would imagine not, it appears that you have invested quite a lot into this. But something tells me that you are really a huge Motley Crue fan but won't admit it...
;)
Tom
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Feb 12 '03
3:17 pm PST
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Re: I'm definitely... (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Looks like you're blazing a trail here on Eps...I'm getting ready for an onslaught of people-who-influenced-me lists...
Well, judging from the lukewarm response I get when I beg my best friends to write such things, I kind of doubt we'll be seeing such an onslaught any time soon. But I'd be just as pleased as you if the idea takes off.
I am honored to have you on my trust list, and especially to be on one so august as yours.
I love the word august. I'm thrilled to be on yours, and on someone who bandies around $10 words like this with sprezzatura and elan!
--John
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Jan 19 '03
9:45 pm PST
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The 3 B's (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
You've got the 3 B's, as our family called them (well, we're not the only ones)-- Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms. They're my bread and butter at the piano, especially Bach. I've been the Art of Fugue, Well Tempered Clavier, Goldberg Variations these days. Heaven.
My favorite Beethoven: Symphonies 3,6,7,9, String Quartet in a minor opus 132, piano sonatas opus 109, 110, 11, and Hammerklavier... Grosse fuge...
Brahms: Rhapsodies, clarinet quintet, string sextet opus 18, piano quintet and piano quartets, violin and piano sonatas...
Ahhhh.
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Jan 13 '03
1:28 am PST
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Re: Re: ^ (Reply to this comment)
by Lobstergirl
Bach: everything is fab, but lately I've been listening a lot to the St. John Passion and the Mass in B Minor.
Brahms: as above....the string quartets and the piano trios.
And of course I forgot to mention Beethoven (a 5/5). I mean, this list is so hackneyed, but the Symphonies.
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Jan 12 '03
11:12 pm PST
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Re: ^ (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Thanks, Lobstergirl, for the great list. Of those you mentioned, Bach, Klee, Brahms, Rothko, and Vermeer stand out as a beloved set for me, and your others certainly form excellent company. I'm curious, which pieces of Brahms, which of Bach?? (Definitely nothing played on a white piano... I totally concur. Yuch. Bad as white limos.)
--John
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Jan 12 '03
12:13 am PST
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^ (Reply to this comment)
by Lobstergirl
Right off the top of my head, I'd classify two artists as 5/5: J.S. Bach and Michaelangelo. Then, somewhere below them, but not too far below, are Martin Amis, Jane Austen, Louise Bourgeois, Brahms, Bronzino, Caravaggio, Walter Gropius, Paul Klee, Mark Rothko, Richard Serra, Van Gogh, Vermeer. And, I know Henry James will be up there somewhere as soon as I finish one of his novels.
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Jan 11 '03
9:47 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Okay, so where are Nos. 251-500? (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
The P/I ratings will have to wait for another day. So sorry...
Bootsy Collins and Maceo Parker are two of my favourite funkateers. The former revolutionized the space-bass, while the latter wails mightily on the alto sax. Both spent time playing with James Brown and Parliament-Funkadelic.
Perry Farrell was/is the frontman of Jane's Addiction (as well as Porno for Pyros). He was also responsible for organizing the Lollapalooze shows of the early-mid nineties. I love his lyrics, his phrasings, and his ethereal voice.
Paul Quarrington is indeed a Canadian. He is the author my favourite book from childhood, Home Game (not to mention Whale Music, which was only slightly more popular). Unless you are actually in a Canadian bookstore, you won't be able to find it (them). Too bad, because it's a hilarious and poignant read (about carnival freaks and baseball, natch).
Enlightenment achieved...
-mike
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Jan 11 '03
6:04 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: Okay, so where are Nos. 251-500? (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Ahem.... Where are the Plateau/Influence ratings, Mike??? Seriously, nice job! You can't imagine how many of my friends declined to furnish me such a list, despite my repeated requests... OK, so we share a few here. Actually, a number of yours are in my 251-500 bunch, such as Douglas Adams (still in the high 200s)... Well, that's about it. I didn't know of Bootsy Collins, Perry Farrell, Maceo Parker or Paul Quarrington. Are they Canadian Stampede fiddlers, or popular rodeo clowns, or what? Care to enlighten me?
-John
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Jan 10 '03
7:38 am PST
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Re: Re: Okay, so where are Nos. 251-500? (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
J.,
Since you asked, here's my hastily-put-together first 50 (off the top of me noggin):
Douglas Adams, Woody Allen, Martin Amis, Wes Anderson, Wes Anderson, Paul Auster, Hieronymus Bosch, James Brown, Georges Clinton, Kurt Cobain, Joel & Ethan Coen, Bootsy Collins, Elvis Costello, Cameron Crowe, Salvador Dali, Don DeLillo, Umberto Eco, MC Escher, Perry Farrell, David Fincher, Terry Gilliam, William Goldman, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Stanley Kubrick, Akira Kurosawa, John Lennon, Sergio Leone, David Letterman, Bob Marley, Groucho Marx, Frances McDormand, Charles Mingus, Claude Monet, Thelonious Monk, Haruki Murakami, Bill Murray, Maceo Parker, Paul Quarrington, Guy Ritchie, Tom Robbins, Richard Russo, Georges Seurat, Sloan, Kevin Smith, Jon Stewart, Tom Stoppard, Quentin Tarantino, Tom Tykwer, Vincent Van Gogh, Kurt Vonnegut.
-mike (not trying to steal your thunder... honest!)
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Jan 10 '03
5:33 am PST
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Re: I think I..... (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Please tell my long lost twin that just because we share the same DNA doesn't mean he gets to inherit our family's Steinway grands. Also, since he's family, could you ask him if I could borrow a little cash. Just $500 or so until I get my next Epinions paycheck...
Seriously, glad to have struck a nerve with concordances and parallels.
Thanks for sharing, Sue
John
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Jan 09 '03
10:24 pm PST
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I think I..... (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket
........married your long lost twin! This is exactly the kind of thing he would do, loves lists in all their variations. Many of your selections would fit also, from Brahms and Schumann to Glass, Lennon, Martin and Monty Python! And he cycles long distance. I'm gettin' creeped out here.....
Interesting concept, I'll have to mention it to him, but he probably already has one around somewhere!
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Jan 09 '03
10:06 pm PST
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Re: Okay, so where are Nos. 251-500? (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
If you want my 251-500, well, you'll have to send a formal letter of request to my Internal Bureau of Diversions and Procrastinations. Right now, the Bureau is backed up with all kinds of planned Epinions reviews, language course manuals, and a hideous backlog of the New York Times begging to be read and recycled. But don't worry: I have a close buddy at the Bureau, and he's a pushover.
It did take a lifetime to learn about all these pantheon members, and it's of course an ongoing search. But it only took a summer plus trickles of other seasons to compile it; there is actually a lot more than you see here.
As for my amateurs, J.S. Bach, Samuel Beckett, Glenn Gould, Pablo Picasso, and William Shakespeare-- I know, I know... But I felt bad about how these folks were up against obscurity and oblivion, and thought maybe my vote of confidence might boost their posthumous egos a bit, if not their sales. AS IF!
Looking forward to your list in 2050: I'll be a spry 80 years old. :)
John
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Jan 09 '03
8:40 pm PST
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Okay, so where are Nos. 251-500? (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
J.,
A fascinating read and, despite your protestations, a clear window into at least part of your personality.
Must have taken you forever (a lifetime, perhaps?) to compile this baby. I notice, that only 5 have scored a 5 in both PLATEAU and INFLUENCE: J.S. Bach, Samuel Beckett, Glenn Gould, Pablo Picasso, and William Shakespeare. Bunch of amateurs, if you ask me. ;)
I'll start drawing up my own list. Should be done by about 2050.
-mike
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Jan 09 '03
4:17 pm PST
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Re: Interesting idea. (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Hey-- I happen to have a separate list of friends, teachers, and mentors who have influenced me as well! Good observation: As I labored over my pantheon, off and on for years, it occurred to me that the most influential people were these folks, and my family, of course.
Sorry about e.e.cummings.
John
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Jan 09 '03
1:09 pm PST
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Interesting idea. (Reply to this comment)
by panguitch
And there were some I didn't recognize. Glad to see Kafka, but disappointed ee cummings was a 3/1. Oh well, it's your list. Perhaps I'll try my own sometime, but it'd be hard to separate out people who've personally influenced me but aren't exactly 'famous'.
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Jan 09 '03
12:18 pm PST
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Re: ... (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Thanks, Chad. Re: "a lot of time spent here..."--
Oh, yes. This was my main outlet for obsessive behavior until I discovered Epinions one day. :)
Now, the two addictions are merging: I'm planning to write a review of a product by most of my pantheon members.
--John
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Jan 09 '03
11:52 am PST
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... (Reply to this comment)
by lemon_lime
quite an interesting read...a unique idea, a good list, and a lot of time obviously spent here...
well done.
chad.
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Jan 09 '03
7:04 am PST
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Re: Glad you narrowed it down to just 250. (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Lol. I guess 250 is a bit overwhelming. If you have any questions about anyone in particular, feel free to ask.
Thanks for the comment,
John
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Jan 09 '03
5:39 am PST
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Glad you narrowed it down to just 250. (Reply to this comment)
by popsrocks
Thanks, I enjoyed going through the list. I must admit that there were many I didn't know. Perhaps that's my loss.
Phil
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Jan 09 '03
5:16 am PST
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