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Re: Re: This is a critique of the review and not the writer (Reply to this comment)
by djw-nyc
Um, because he's saying he's only come across this one example of Kölsch, i.e., from Köln, and yet he considers himself an authority on authentic, classic German Kölsch based on that? It is to laugh.
On rec.food.drink.beer, not to beat a dead horse, "bruguru" delighted in stating that he had never traveled outside of the US and preferred to "travel the world by bottle." Since he hasn't traveled to Germany, he's therefore only had this one German Kölsch. Hardly enough of a sample to declare Reissdorf a "classic," as bdfbiff seems to have pointed out nicely. So it comes down to "bruguru" exaggerating for effect.
Unless he's comparing Reissdorf to Sam Adams or something, which isn't even sporting as a target.
Care to reply, "bruguru"?
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May 26 '03
7:32 pm PDT
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Re: This is a critique of the review and not the writer (Reply to this comment)
by emptywishes
I don't quite get why these can't be used together; just because he's only found one example in the states doesn't mean he's never had any others elsewhere.
or perhaps I just don't get what you're saying.
Kim
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May 20 '03
12:01 am PDT
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Not quite a classic, I'd say (Reply to this comment)
by bfdbiff
Reissdorf is indeed the only German-brewed Kölsch you're likely to find in the States; I've heard of one or two others making brief appearances, but they seem to fade away very quickly. And it is a good reference beer to use to find out what real Kölsch is like and to judge against the many American beers that call themselves Kölsch-style or just plain Kölsch. (By the way, while Kölsch is indeed an appelation controleé, most appelations controleé are not recognized by the US, which is why you see non-French "champagne," American "parmesan" cheese, American "Kölsch," etc.)
All that said, I guess I wouldn't call Reissdorf a classic example of the style. The classics are more likely to come from places like Früh, Päffgen (my favorite), Malzmühl and Sion, all places that operate their own Hausbrauereien (brewpubs) in and near the city center. (Früh also bottles and sells throughout Germany - I could find it without too much difficulty
when I was living in Munich - and I think Sion might bottle as well.) All four of these are truly remarkable beers, show an amazing variety within such a small stylistic range, and are in my opinion much more remarkable and satisfying beers than the Reissdorf. Comparing Reissdorf against something like Früh or Päffgen is kind of like comparing something like Diebels altbier with Zum Uerige; the former gives you an idea of what the style is like, the latter shows you what the style is at its best.
And one small nitpick: I woudln't say that Kölsch as we know it hasn't really been brewed for centuries. I suppose literally speaking, but it's existed in its current form since only the middle of the 19th century, since that's when kilning technology advanced to the point where it was possible to make beer that pale in color. As I'm sure you know, Pilsner Urquell was among the first ultra-pale beers, and that dates from the mid 1800s.
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May 14 '03
12:17 pm PDT
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This is a critique of the review and not the writer (Reply to this comment)
by djw-nyc
"When it comes to Kölsch beer, Reissdorf Kölsch is a great original to set your standards by. This is a classic German Kölsch..."
"In all my years of beer hunting I have only come across this one."
Tell me how these two statements don't contradict themselves. Maybe you need to footnote your reviews if you're pulling statements from other sources, yes?
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May 14 '03
11:45 am PDT
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