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Too soon old and too late (if ever) wise
by Stephen_Murray | Oct 16 '03
Growing up and growing old both look very, very tough in the best 1980s movies. Check 'em out!

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by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
I'm not in complete agreement with myself from day to day, so don't expect perfect concord in assessment of movies with anyone else.

Whether one should cite Japanese and Chinese names in the patronym/given-name order or the given name.patronym order of English is something that drives me a bit crazy. "Akira Kurosawa" is well-established, but, then, so is "Mao Zhedong," so even going along with others produces inconsistency!
Oct 25 '03
10:17 pm PDT

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by WilliamJones
Stephen: after a recent disagreement, it's nice to be able to say that—of the films I've seen on your list—I'm in complete agreement.

I greatly appreciate the mention of (and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't—or wasn't it, as he's no longer with us—Juzo Itami?) Tampopo and A Taxing Woman.

Also, Fanny & Alexander and Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence, while they didn't make my list, are notable and deserving.

And I desperately want to see Malena based on your recommendation.

Oh, thanks too, for the plug.

-Bill
Oct 25 '03
10:12 am PDT

Re: May I offer some overlooked ones for your consideration (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
I enjoyed both movies (making me one of relatively few in the case of "Avalon"), but I liked "Tampopo" better, and confined myself to a baker's dozen.
Oct 19 '03
10:20 am PDT

May I offer some overlooked ones for your consideration (Reply to this comment)
by asafono
There are a couple of movies I would consider for this list; even though they are very 80-s, they do draw me back once in a while - if not to revisit them, then perhaps to recall memorable moments, scenes and remarks.

Local Hero. A little gem, a movie critic (Ebert?) called it, and I tend to agree. Bill Forsythe's understated masterpiece. The folkish score by Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits stands on its own, too.

Avalon (1990, so technically 90s). A mix of strong and unpredictable script, great and hammy acting, and rarely sincere and reserved sentimentality.
Oct 18 '03
9:57 pm PDT

I like your list (Reply to this comment)
by telynor, telynor is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
Looking back, I'm rather happy that I saw The Last Emperor in the theatres -- besides the costuming, the use of color is what blew me away, how Bertolucci managed to incorporate moving through the spectrum and time in such an amazing way. -- Telynor
Oct 17 '03
11:32 pm PDT

only seen a few of the American ones (Reply to this comment)
by jankp
It's time I thought up my own list, before Christmas at least! Where does the time go?

Jan
Oct 17 '03
6:56 pm PDT

Re: Dang (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
So, do your own! Let a hundred (or more) flowers bloom!

No one has reviewed the movie (and only "Taboo" and "In the Realm of the Senses" from among Oshima's films, the latter by you), so don't consider yourself forestalled!
Oct 17 '03
1:29 pm PDT

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by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
So we agree on more matters than our illegitimate commander-in-chief! Sr. Leone for one.

Also, I thought that "Blow Out" was a great film and would belong on a list of 10-best films of the decade if I was not providing counter-balance to the all-American ones.

Hulce was hammy, but entertaingly so, unlike Hurt.

I agree that "a drama is no more artistically valid than a comedy just because, well, it's a drama": it's actually more difficult comparing epics with sweeping vistas to domestic dramas or comedies. Like Academy voters, I'm a sucker for Big Pictures, though I revere Ozu as well as Kurosawa, Bresson as well as Leone.

If you look through others' lists, Malle's "My Dinner with André" recurs. I found it insufferable. (No sweeping vistas therein!)

"May you burn in cinematic hell for that statement, young man. "
It's do delightful to be called "young," that it makes me shrug at the first part. "The Last Emperor" LOOKS great.

Yes, you need to see "Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence" and to see "Ran" again It's nearly impossible for a 16-year-old to get "King Lear," let alone in Japanese.

"The Man Who Fell to Earth" is marked by the kind of gorgeous cinematographer for the appreciation of which I've been consigned by you to hell.


Oct 17 '03
9:52 am PDT

Dang (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
I can't believe someone beat me to it, but who cares: I'm happy to see Oshima represented with Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence. His subsequent film was quite awful (Max, Mon Amour), but an earlier, very hard to find one is one of my favorites: Gishiki (The Ceremony).

Very nice list/descriptions...

-John
Oct 17 '03
3:49 am PDT
   

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