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Right On! (Reply to this comment)
by fudge23
Right on! This is typical manuevering by our current government. Whenever anything goes wrong - blame the gays! Please
Thanks for the courage to speak up!
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Jun 30 '04
5:02 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Sounds Like "Nit-Picking" to me... (Reply to this comment)
by dizzybint
LMAO Marcy!
Caroline
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Jun 16 '04
8:46 am PDT
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Correct! (Reply to this comment)
by mytigodess
It is an outrage. They committed acts of rape, specifically sodomy and torture. These were not acts of making love. When it comes to the military, as many in mainstream, people are still very homophobic. To commit such acts and to humiliate them in this way goes to show these rapists homophobic nature.
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Jun 01 '04
8:31 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Sounds Like "Nit-Picking" to me... (Reply to this comment)
by dizzybint
Very well said Barbara. In full agreement with you here. What happened in that prison were NOT homosexual acts, they were acts of violence and using that term to describe them was offensive to me also. I wonder if the world will ever stop labelling people.
Caroline
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May 30 '04
8:31 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Sounds Like "Nit-Picking" to me... (Reply to this comment)
by LILvoyce
Your right this is a site to share our opinions, and the way I see it is that BK just calls it like she sees it. Great Job!
-barbara
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May 29 '04
9:00 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Sounds Like "Nit-Picking" to me... (Reply to this comment)
by LILvoyce
"The media "Did Not" say that the Soldiers "were not" rapists."
I never said that they didn't.
"They were merely distinguishing some of the acts committed as "Homosexual" (same sex acts) as opposed to "Heterosexual" (opposite sex acts), as to clarify some of the acts done.. This is not a statement referring to the fact "that homosexuals would commit these same acts"... It was simply a clarification."
I have recently viewed some of the pictures taken by these rapist. As far as the rape was concerned, the pictures I viewed showed sex in all forms. I find it disgusting that the media would consider this rape a Homosexual act.
I think most People saw it for what it was. I find it hard to believe that a Heterosexual (such as you claim to be), would actually have taken those statements so personally, first.
First of all you do not know me. Just because I am a Heterosexual does not mean that I do not have a heart, and a mind. Yes I claim to be a heterosexual. I have been married to the same man for ten years, and have two beautiful children. Why is that so hard for you to believe that it bothered me to have taken these comments so personally?
I will tell you that I do know what it is like to be raped and abused. If someone is going to rape the news need to make sure that the blame is placed on that person alone. The media had no right to place the word Homosexual in there without placing the words Heterosexual in there. First off, it had no place being in there to begin with. Rape is rape. But heterosexual or homosexual "Acts" Has no business being in that article. I did not misconstrue anything. Furthermore, I did not hear anything in the news coverage about this rape being a "Heterosexual act."
And secondly, that you could try to misconstrue the statements to mean that "All homosexuals commit these acts". Although I am NOT a big fan of the media in general.. In these cases, I'd have to say that YOU twisted the meanings.. Not the media.
I did not say that I thought that all Homosexuals commited these acts. The news said that Homosexual Acts were performed on these prisoners. I find this wording to be very poor. Most Homosexuals and Hetrosexuals that I know do not act like that.
If they ment that these prisoners were s*d*mized they should have used that terminology. From what I saw in the pictures all forms of s*x were performed on these prisoners. Furthermore, these days, s*d*my is not specific gay or straight s*xual act.
I do take offense to the whole way that the media has handle this here in Florida. I don't understand what your beef is with me. Please explain further. In fact why don't you write your own piece in rebuttle. I think your upset just because I am a Heterosexual with a heart for all people, and that I do not play into the media's poor attempt to cover a story.
-lilvoyce
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May 29 '04
8:53 am PDT
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Re: Re: Sounds Like "Nit-Picking" to me... (Reply to this comment)
by miami9
Just as I figured: I knew someone would take a logical (opinionated) explanation and call it something childish, like "snotty". I simply stated "my opinion" to "another's opinion"... Isn't that what this site is about (epinions.com)?
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May 29 '04
3:17 am PDT
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Well said (Reply to this comment)
by iangrant
I agree with your statements with the exception of one. The perpetrators in the Iraq prison scandal are not just a disgrace to the US but the human race.
Ian
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May 28 '04
7:20 am PDT
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Sounds Like "Nit-Picking" to me... (Reply to this comment)
by miami9
It seems that you are "nit-picking" the coments made by the media. Here is how I saw the coverage:
The media "Did Not" say that the Soldiers "were not" rapists. They were merely distinguishing some of the acts committed as "Homosexual" (same sex acts) as opposed to "Heterosexual" (opposite sex acts), as to clarify some of the acts done.. This is not a statement referring to the fact "that homosexuals would commit these same acts"... It was simply a clarification. I think most eople saw it for what it was. I find it hard to believe that a Heterosexual (such as you claim to be), would actually have taken those statements so personally, first. And secondly, that you could try to misconstrue the statements to mean that "All homosexuals commit these acts". Although I am NOT a big fan of the media in general.. In these cases, I'd have to say that YOU twisted the meanings.. Not the media.
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May 27 '04
12:38 am PDT
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Thanks Everyone.... (Reply to this comment)
by LILvoyce
Thanks for reading and for commenting. Sometimes people say the darndest things.
-barbara
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May 17 '04
8:44 pm PDT
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Unusual... (Reply to this comment)
by laryan
It's unusual for me to not find words when I need them. I can only say "thank you" for pointing out the wrongness of the "news" articles.
I see it as an attempt to villify homosexuals, rather than the acts of our military--orders or not.
Thank you for speaking up on this.
~Lisa
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May 15 '04
4:34 pm PDT
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Hey Barbara (Reply to this comment)
by iluvbirds
Nice job!
Savanna Smiling:)
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May 15 '04
6:50 am PDT
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By the way...... (Reply to this comment)
by brett777
I think it is just horrible what happened in that prison. I can't believe that people who were supposed to be helping the Iraqis abused them so. I don't care who told them to. You cannot defend any action in history by saying, "I was only following orders."
Brett
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May 15 '04
6:38 am PDT
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Hello..... (Reply to this comment)
by brett777
I think what the news may have been reffering to was the picture of a bunch of naked men forced to get on top of each other to look like they were engaging in sexual acts. I do not want to defend or attack their actions, but they may have simply made a poor choice of words to describe this single incident.
Brett
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May 15 '04
6:35 am PDT
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Bad time/bad place (Reply to this comment)
by Annie_Crane
It's sad but true.
But sometimes it takes a 'straight' person
to speak out for someone else to get someone
else to listen. May your 'LiLvoyce' be heard by "Big Ears".
AnnieC
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May 15 '04
5:57 am PDT
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Agreed (Reply to this comment)
by dizzybint
I completely agree with what you've said, well done. I hope the complaints are loud and many to the media. Thank you for speaking out for something you believe.
Caroline
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May 14 '04
11:46 pm PDT
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Re: ... (Reply to this comment)
by LILvoyce
Thanks for rating, and for commenting. I just think this is so unfair.
-barbara
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May 14 '04
10:56 pm PDT
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by dpjohansen
You're absolutely right.. they committed rape.. not Homosexual acts.
I mean, if a homosexual were to rape a woman, no-one would ever say "He committed heterosexual acts", would they?
People are so narrow-minded sometimes. I could go on and on, but I don't want to end up ranting, faaaar too early in the morning for that, lol.
Cheers,
~David
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May 14 '04
10:53 pm PDT
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