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Re: Re: Re: #2 (Reply to this comment)
by metalluk
"Hiroshima, mon amour" is far superior and opened in the US after "Breathless"
I have a release date of 1959 for it. It will be a candidate for my fifties list when I get to it.
As to the rest, I guess that's why the site is called "Epinions."
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Jul 29 '04 3:53 pm PDT
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Re: Re: #2 (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, in Movies
I didn't mention "Yojimbo," one of my most favorite films, precisely because I did remember your less-than-enthusiastic response. I think all the Japanese movies I mentioned are superior to "A Man and a Woman" (and that the "profundity" of"Marienbad" is fraudulent; "Hiroshima, mon amour" is far superior and opened in the US after "Breathless").
"La Bamba" was atop a considerably less competitive list than" best non-English-language movies of the 1960s." However, I'd place it (and "Persona" and "Rocco" and "The Gospel According to St. Matthew") above "A Man and a Woman" or "Ballad of a Soldier" or "King of Hearts."
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Jul 29 '04 11:09 am PDT
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Re: #2 (Reply to this comment)
by metalluk
King of Hearts"??? NoIn my view, it's not even the best De Broca movie of the 60s! (That would be "The Man from Rio.") I also prefer Louis Malle's "Viva María!"
I stand by my admiration for the King of Hearts. Youve mentioned your lack of enthusiasm for it before. Its delightful and it stands up to repeat viewing.
And "La guerre est finie" to "L'Année dernière à Marienbad."
La Guerre est Finie would certainly not have been out of place on my list, though not requisite and certainly not superior to Last Year at Marienbad. The Film and Video Companion, for example, lists Last Year as a five-star film (their highest rating) and La Guerre as four-star (and they do use half stars).
Where are the Japanese masters? Kon Ichikawa (An Actor's Revenge, Tokyo Olympiad), Masaki Kobayashi
(A Soldier's Prayer, Kwaidan, Samurai Rebellion), Akira Kurosawa (The Bad Sleep Well, High and Low, Red Beard, Sanjuro), Yasujiro Ozu (Late Autumn)...
Where are they? Exactly where they belong! Not on the list. Among the Japanese films that you list, the only one that might appear on a typical top twenty Sixties list would be Sanjuro. Yojimbo, which you didnt mention, would probably appear more often on such lists, but you might recall from my review of that film that I liked it less than most reviewers do. The Bad Sleep Well gets a paltry three stars according to the source I mentioned above.
But the most conspicuous absences are Luchino Visconti's great "Rocco and his brothers" (the ultimate neorealist movie in several senses)
Among your suggestions, this is the only one I might ultimately concede. I havent yet got around to seeing this film but am aware of its reputation.
and any of the great Pasolini masterpieces: The Gospel According to St. Matthew, Teorema, Medea. (Visconti's adapatation of Camus's L'etranger is no slouch, either).
Pasolinis The Gospel would be a defensible choice, but is not to my taste. Teorema is competitive but not requisite. The others dont belong on a top-twenty Sixties list in my opinion.
Every one of the films on my list is a good deal better than La Bamba! :-)
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Jul 29 '04 10:31 am PDT
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by Stephen_Murray, in Movies
King of Hearts"??? NoIn my view, it's not even the best De Broca movie of the 60s! (That would be "The Man from Rio.") I also prefer Louis Malle's "Viva María!"
And "La guerre est finie" to "L'Année dernière à Marienbad."
Where are the Japanese masters? Kon Ichikawa (An Actor's Revenge, Tokyo Olympiad), Masaki Kobayashi
(A Soldier's Prayer, Kwaidan, Samurai Rebellion), Akira Kurosawa (The Bad Sleep Well, High and Low, Red Beard, Sanjuro), Yasujiro Ozu (Late Autumn)...
But the most conspicuous absences are Luchino Visconti's great "Rocco and his brothers" (the ultimate neorealist movie in several senses) and any of the great Pasolini masterpieces: The Gospel According to St. Matthew, Teorema, Medea. (Visconti's adapatation of Camus's L'etranger is no slouch, either).
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Jul 29 '04 9:39 am PDT
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Re: interesting list (Reply to this comment)
by JBigDog
I can't wait to see your other lists. I'm just starting to watch foreign films and I'm always eager to hear what suggestions people have.
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Jul 28 '04 10:52 pm PDT
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interesting list (Reply to this comment)
by jankp
I'm with you on Contempt, but haven't seen Godard's others and should. I like A Man and a Woman much more than you and Belle deJour and Umbrellas much less, but you've given some ideas of what to look for. Thanks!
Jan
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Jul 28 '04 8:45 pm PDT
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