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Morning Sickness vs. Hyperemesis Gravidarum: A Primer
by pippadaisy | Mar 18, 2005
There's a lot more to morning sickness than crackers and ginger ale.

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by Lisa_J
So sorry that you are still having to deal with this condition. Fortunately I never had this condition, but I did deal with afternoon sickness (not morning). I am fortunate I figured out a combination of things to assist. If I were closer, I would show up at your front door!
Hugs and Blessings,
Lisa
Mar 18, 2005
1:14 pm PST

Different forms of Zofran (Reply to this comment)
by fairjannet


I had two different forms of Zofran..a melt-in-your-mouth type thing that I was given at the OB's office, and a pill. Women who are having serious trouble keeping things down might want to experiment with both to see if one is less likely to come back up before it gets absorbed than the other. I had generally the same results with either form, but the melt-in-your-mouth kind was handy when I had nothing available to drink.

30 pills cost about $800...my insurance company did not argue about it as I am type 1 diabetic and I had both lost weight and suffered extreme low blood sugars from the morning sickness. Most insurance companies have websites that allow you to see if they automatically cover a drug or if you will need to get authorization for it to be covered.

Zofran reduced the number of times per day I was sick by eliminating the "ick" feeling. It did not stop the vomiting completely, but I cared more about not feeling ill in the long run anyway.
Mar 18, 2005
2:09 pm PST

Morning sickness....... (Reply to this comment)
by melissasrn
....is certainly bad enough!! Only HG is much worse as you well know.

So sorry you are going through this :-( A surprise pregnancy is hard enough all by itself.

Take care and I hope you start feeling better soon!

Melissa
Mar 18, 2005
2:55 pm PST

.... (Reply to this comment)
by bops_mom
when I heard you talk about how bad it was on the MSN board and how you'd have to get an IV for fluids, etc. I could tell it was hell on earth. I cannot imagine. Yeah, I had morning sickness... but um, I held down a full time job while having morning sickness (you can run out of the office to the bathroom to puke... it becomes normal), I could clean my house, go grocery shopping. I had a life. Yes, I lost just over 20 lb. but I at least had it to lose and the baby was growing just fine so it wasn't harming him.

But this... this HG... oh.my.god.

I will just say that I am terribly sorry this is your life right now (when should it subside? is it like morning sickness in that it does go away after a few months?). I really cannot imagine.... please try to talk yourself out of feeling like a bad mom to your three kiddos though. There's nothing you can do about it and to be honest -- though sure, their life might be "better" right now if you didn't have HG -- they're going to make it though this ok and unlike you, they will probably have no memory of how bad it really was.

- Melissa
Mar 18, 2005
5:50 pm PST

My heart goes out to you... (Reply to this comment)
by shantel575
I cannot even imagine dealing with this. I am so sorry that you are going through it. I hope and pray that it subsides and that you will start feeling better.

Shantel
Mar 18, 2005
7:25 pm PST

I'm so sorry you are dealing with this. (Reply to this comment)
by mizgnomer
As you know, I just had a baby. My boss's wife is about a month behind me, pregnancy wise, and she went through what you are going through. They were my first experience with HG. She was hospitalized multiple times for dehydration, lost a crazy amount of weight, and like you was eventually put on the chemotherapy patient medicine (sorry, I don't recall which one, but it was awfully expensive). They were trying to wean her from it almost immediately, so she got some benefit but was always struggling to see how little she could get away with taking. She did eventually get over the HG - about mid-way through her pregnancy. She's due to give birth on Monday if she makes it that long (unfortunately now she's got super-high blood pressure, so they are taking the baby early), and I know this is one pregnancy she'll be happy to put behind her. What hurt her the most was her inability to take care of their 3 year old, who became a real "Daddy's girl" during her Mommy's bout with HG.

I now know what you mean when you say it is difficult to get others to understand how hard HG is on you. I was unaware of it until recently, and was in awe of how sick it made my friend. I hope that you, like my boss's wife, can leave the HG behind as your pregnancy progresses. I'm so sorry that you have to deal with this. Stay strong!

MizGnomer
Mar 18, 2005
8:10 pm PST

Pippa.. (Reply to this comment)
by marybatson
... I'm so sorry! (((((BIG HUG))))), and if I lived even a state away, I'd be there to help. I hope you're up and moving around soon!
Mary :)
Mar 18, 2005
9:37 pm PST

I'm so sorry! (Reply to this comment)
by serc
I was pretty sick with my first child, but nothing like HG (thankfully!). I didn't gain as much as I should have, but at least I didn't lose weight. Even so, I was trying to persuade myself that I could "get into" vomiting as a hobby if I just adjusted my attitude. So I can't imagine how much worse it is for you.

I did go through a similar time of being helpless while I was pregnant with Julia. At 30 weeks gestation, I slipped on the floor in my kitchen and shattered my elbow and broke my wrist. I had a fun 4 hour surgery that night and spent the next two months unable to do anything but read or watch tv - including taking care of my then 4 year old son. I couldn't even go outside because the heat raised Julia's heart rate too much (this also happened at the doctor's office, oddly enough - they need better air conditioning apparently). I do hope that someone is around that can help you with household stuff - other than your husband. My mother in law came for one week, but other than that I was on my own. My parents live close but even when asked they didn't help (which really did not help me with the depression aspect of the whole situation).

This all happened in 2002, and now it seems so long ago. All I can offer is a "hang in there" - and I hope it does get better soon. I'll be praying for you.

-Sara R-C
Mar 18, 2005
11:05 pm PST

Oh my..... (Reply to this comment)
by kamel622

....goodness, I am so grateful that with five pregnancies I never went through anything like this.

(((Pippa))) You'll be in my prayers. ...kath
Mar 19, 2005
7:53 am PST

I am so sorry (Reply to this comment)
by AliventiAsylum
you are going through this. I have never had a big problem with "morning sickness" and can't imagine what this must be like for you.

Take as best care of yourself as you can!! I'm sending positive thoughts that it will be over with soon.

Patti
Mar 19, 2005
5:35 pm PST

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by Barefooter
Hugs to you-- I had it rough with my first pregnancy but not as bad as you.
Hope that this subsides for you soon!

Karen
Mar 20, 2005
7:32 am PST

Poor Mama! (Reply to this comment)
by krissingene
I hope you feel better soon - it'll all be worth it in the end, right?

Hugs to you!
Kristin
Mar 20, 2005
4:13 pm PST

Good Lord! (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket
I'm so sorry you're going through this! It sounds simply awful, is it likely to subside at any point? Please try not to beat yourself up over the things you can't do right now. While on bedrest with #2, I felt awful about what I could not do for #1. But there was simply nothing to be done about it, you do your best and that's all anyone can ask. Even you!

I do hope you begin to feel better - next time someone tries to tell you it isn't real, well, vomit on them.

Take care of yourself!

Sue
Mar 20, 2005
9:34 pm PST

been there and done that! (Reply to this comment)
by marytara, marytara is a Lead on Epinions in Kids & Family
Had hyperemisis this time around and it was not fun. Sick through til month six and nothing helped! I even tried hypnosis and accupressure.

~MT
Mar 22, 2005
7:18 am PST

Hey! (Reply to this comment)
by jchapkovich
Just wanted you to know you're thought of! Take it easy and rant whenever you need to.

:-)Jen
Mar 24, 2005
11:27 am PST

Re: :( (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Thanks Lisa! This is an all-new experience for me. I had morning sickness (and afternoon, and evening...) with the other kids, but it wasn't anything like this!
Mar 25, 2005
3:35 am PST

Re: Different forms of Zofran (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Thanks, fairjannet. Yes... I had the Zofran ODTs. They worked for about a week and then all hell broke loose.

The expense of these meds is INSANE! I'm so fortunate that I have good prescription coverage, or there is no way we could afford it. The Kytril comes in these bizarre and totally wasteful foil packs, and I can't tell you how many times I've dropped a pill trying to get it out of the pack and started yelling "That pill costs as much as a contact lens! Don't anyone move!" :D
Mar 25, 2005
3:37 am PST

Re: .... (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Thanks, Melissa.

I think it might be starting to ease up some... I'm having some good days when I'm able to drive and pick Beanie up at school and run a short errand or two. Problem is that I try to get as much done as I possibly can and burn myself out for the next day. :)

Your NVP sounds like mine with Beanie... I would go to work and was constantly puking in the ladies' room sink because I couldn't run fast enough to make the stalls. I lost 13 pounds, I think.

The meds have totally slowed my weight loss, which is good, because while I have it to lose, I sure don't want to do it this way. :D I'd much rather go back to the gym after the baby is born.
Mar 25, 2005
3:39 am PST

Re: My heart goes out to you... (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Thanks Shantel! Like I said, I'm having some good days now, which is giving me some hope. :D
Mar 25, 2005
3:40 am PST

Re: I'm so sorry you are dealing with this. (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
MizGnomer,

My first experience was hearing the girl across the hall from me in the hospital, although I'd heard about it, I don't think it really processed with me what it was like.

I totally feel for your boss's wife... having had high blood pressure with all three pregnancies that ended up being pre-e with two of them, I can totally sympathize! I've said before... I hate being pregnant because my body just doesn't do it well. I'd have a dozen kids if I just didn't have to be pregnant to do it. LOL
Mar 25, 2005
3:42 am PST

Re: Pippa.. (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Thanks Mary! You know I'm having a great day when I post to the HG support group that I drove the car. Yesterday I drove Beanie to AND from school (a struggle since I have to lug the boys along) AND drove G to and from his big snip appointment (you didn't think I'd do THIS again, did you?). I'm paying for it a bit today, but I felt quite a bit of accomplishment. I have some great friends, though, who have gone out of their way to help out by doing little things like running to the store for me and driving Beanie to and from school.

I just wish I could afford a temporary nanny!
Mar 25, 2005
3:44 am PST

Re: I'm so sorry! (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
OMG, Sara, I can't even IMAGINE! The closest I ever came to something like that was last year... G was at some GeekFest conference Mother's Day weekend and I fell outside taking the trash out and sprained my ankle, taking a couple of layers of skin off my knee as well. I couldn't carry the baby, and he took a red-eye home. But I can't even fathom being that incapacitated when pg and for such a long period of time! Even on bedrest you can play games and color and do craft projects. You poor thing!
Mar 25, 2005
3:46 am PST

Re: Poor Mama! (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
kath, Patti, Karen, & Kristin,

Thanks so much for your good thoughts. Yes, the end result is always worth it, as I keep telling myself. I think I'd have a better attitude about it if this baby wasn't SUCH a shocker, and I wasn't panicked about all the work we have to get done to make room in our tiny little house for a fourth child.

I tend to get more attached after the "big" ultrasound, and definitely do better if I'm able to find out the gender, because then the baby seems more real.
Mar 25, 2005
3:48 am PST

Re: Good Lord! (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Thanks Sue! I haven't quite gotten to the point where I can vomit on command, but since I've already puked on my own pillow and a child, I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

I know what you mean about bedrest... I was on bedrest for Beanie and SWORE I couldn't ever do it with a child. Well, my pregnancy with Bug had other plans, but luckily, G was able to work from home and at least the kids weren't pinned in bed with me glued to the boob tube all day.
Mar 25, 2005
3:50 am PST

Re: been there and done that! (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
MT, I thought I remembered you had a rough time this last time around... I have NO idea how you did it by yourself with hubby in another state and then moved on top of it. You are my hero!!!!
Mar 25, 2005
3:51 am PST

Re: Hey! (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Thanks Jen! I absolutely do! I'm so glad that I found the HG support forum, because it helps whining to other moms who've BTDT.
Mar 25, 2005
3:51 am PST

My gosh! (Reply to this comment)
by sheilardt
The only time I've assisted to symptoms like yours was with my best friend last year... but she was expecting triplets! I would have never imagined something like that existed...

Hope you feel better!
Sheila
Jun 10, 2005
2:32 pm PDT

Re: My gosh! (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Thanks Sheila! I've had a lot of improvement. I am still throwing up a few times a week, but I've learned to live with the nausea and most days I'm medication-free, so that's a bonus. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't wishing the summer away to be done with this pregnancy, though. :)
Jun 13, 2005
2:33 am PDT