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by lambchops
Yeah...I know, but in my macro version of the whole thing I don't see any of the three as a huge influence. Maybe The Jam in some current incarnations of Britpop, but maybe not ;)
Thanks for stopping by and reading my "manifesto." I Like that word.
Shelly.
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Aug 25 '05
3:45 am PDT
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by Vormancian
Wonderful write-up.
James... Yeah!
I was a little disappointed that in such a manifesto there would be no mention anywhere of.........
The Jam
The Wonderstuff
or
The Housemartins
You make me sad.
Cheers
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Aug 24 '05
1:34 pm PDT
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Where to listen to Britpop and New Indie (Reply to this comment)
by djdesperate
Great review. I love Britpop and most new music played in the UK now. I started a internet radio station called Desperate Radio. It's FREE.
http://www.desperateradio.com
You can hear Kaiser Chiefs, Bloc Party, Maximo Park, the Libertines, the Cribs and more! Send me requests. Anglophiles Unite!!!!
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Aug 01 '05
1:08 pm PDT
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Finally... (Reply to this comment)
by vanwarp
...made it back to add my own comment, especially after giving you a MH rating! ;)
Just so you know, "Britpop" does not rule in my world, but considering the fact that I enjoy a wide range of music, your essay was remarkably informative to me. Needless to say, I own nothing on your list, not yet anyway. But your essay helped tremendously, it won't be long now before I pick something up that was on your list...
I think it's safe to say your essay made a lot of people happy...and certainly for folks like me, just so much more knowledgeable on the subject of Britpop now, though I'm not sure that's a good or bad thing for me? (hehe!)
Nice write-up Shelly!
~Vanwarp~
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Jul 28 '05
6:42 am PDT
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Re: It's.. (Reply to this comment)
by lambchops
Ha! Yeah. I realize that terminology and things to listen to are somewhat based on my own personal biases and my lack of knowledge when most of the music debuted. I knew I'd have to defend Williams, but I don't think he needs a defense--I enjoy him very much as a guilty pleasure. I also felt it necessary to include more recent releases (Snow Patrol) for the sake of completion. I don't think Snow Patrol is COMPLETELY a rip off and Emrace certainly isn't...but then again it's my oddly skewed American perception.
Thanks so much for stopping by & leaving such a thoughtful comment. Britpop RULES (and LIVES)!
Shelly.
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Jul 26 '05
10:10 am PDT
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It's.. (Reply to this comment)
by nsign
..odd to hear someone still talking of British bands as Britpop. Over here, Britpop is the name given to the general upsurge in British bands during the period from 1994 to 1997, which is what is now regarded as the Britpop era, when Oasis were good, and when Blur, Suede, Pulp and some others you mentioned were everywhere. The bubble is generally held to have burst when Oasis released Be Here Now, and Pulp released This Is Hardcore, which pretty much sank both bands artistically and critically ( although I think This Is Hardcore is actually rather good ). No one actually refers to British bands as being Britpop here anymore - It's almost become quite a nostalgic term, like Merseybeat or Baggy.
Most of your choices are spot-on, but I really have an issue with all of these Coldplay rip-off merchants like Snow Patrol, Embrace and Keane. I think Coldplay are great, but the others bore me beyond belief - There's just no substance or fire to them. And whoever told that kid from Embrace that he could sing was playing a very cruel joke. Robbie Williams - My heart sinks at the mention of this talentless chancer's name. He is, to my mind, no better than a pub karaoke singer and I simply can't stand his immature personality.
I do love Gomez though - High time they put another album out. British Sea Power too, and the new album from Doves is fantastic.
Interesting and informative read!
Steve
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Jul 26 '05
7:46 am PDT
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Your (Reply to this comment)
by telynor,  in Music
"Little Essay" here is exactly why I like reading your reviews, Lambchop! They are always entertaining and informative and downright good. Thanks for helping to educate this jaded old broad. -- Telynor
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Jul 22 '05
10:28 am PDT
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Re: Re: I'm Tied to the 90s (Reply to this comment)
by dpjohansen
Cerys annoys me, too. And also, scares the bejesus out of me.
The album I don't have from your list is The Longpigs.. all I have is the CD single for "She Said"! Shame on me.
Yeah, consider that follow up, it'd be interesting to see what you'd pick. As for the Boo Radleys, you're right, they wouldn't have quite fit on this list.. but certainly a follow up.
Cheers!
David
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Jul 20 '05
10:05 pm PDT
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Re: Great list (Reply to this comment)
by lambchops
Oh yes--they do it right often too, fortunately. Unfortunately they also succumb to many (MANY, MANY) passing fads.
With that said, wave at my sister next time you're in the UK. I haven't gotten to visit yet and she's been there four years. Maybe next year now that she's got a house outside of London rather than a miniscule flat in Camden.
Thanks for stopping by!
Shelly.
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Jul 20 '05
12:15 pm PDT
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Great list (Reply to this comment)
by annecal
We go to the UK a couple of times a year and I always cringe when the radio is on- most of what you hear there is utter crap, lots of boy and girl bands... last summer I believe that three versions of "unchained melody" were all in the top ten, and my husband swears that "hamster dance" was on the top ten there for weeks... but when they do it right, it's superb!
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Jul 20 '05
6:42 am PDT
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Re: I'm Tied to the 90s (Reply to this comment)
by lambchops
Catatonia. Bah. I've reviewed, what, two of their albums? Just don't like them. They annoy me. She annoys me.
Oh yes--what is the album you're missing? Just curious as we're nearly precisely on the same page. I will certainly consider a follow-up 25 albums. I've obviously got many more in my collection. And yes, I've even reviewed that Boo Radleys album however it didn't fit well with the review as far as I could tell. In any case, thanks for stopping by.
As always, it's a pleasure.
Shelly.
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Jul 20 '05
5:22 am PDT
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Re: Lovely write-up! (Reply to this comment)
by lambchops
Yeah! Glad to be of service. I didn't list, FYI, Kaiser Chiefs because it just didn't seem to fit. I bought the album a few months ago and I'm still working on it...
Thanks for stopping by.
Shelly.
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Jul 20 '05
5:20 am PDT
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I'm Tied to the 90s (Reply to this comment)
by dpjohansen
Shelly,
Firstly, excellent write-up! It was a lovely stroll down memory lane.. I miss 90s Britpop. I love the newer generation, but there is something great about that time, discovering all those new bands and the like. Ok, I'll admit I liked Oasis when the first came out. And no, not at all surprised at you liking Robbie, he's come a long way since the Take That days and he's such an inspriring artist and performer. (And cheeky)
I'm happy at myself for having 24 out of 25 albums on your list.. but, see, that makes me want the one I haven't got! Also, you need to review the Stone Roses album to complete the list. Then you have to do another list of another 25 Britpop acts, the lesser known gems (And you must include The Boo Radleys' "Wake Up!") Then there's the lesser, lesser, lesser known bands like The Family Cat and Molly Half Head. And all these other bands keep popping up in my head that I used to like in the 90s, like Dodgy, Sleeper and Ocean Colour Scene... it's a endless list!
Space were hilarious, as were The Frank & Walters. I miss them both. I had to laugh at you not mentioning any of the Welsh camp..Since Catatonia are one of your bestest, favouritest bands in the world ever! (kidding!) And yeah, who cares if Elastica ripped off Wire, they were still great.
BTW, I first read this yesterday, and of all the songs mentioned on this list, the one I haven't been able to get out of my head since I woke up this morning is bloody "Taxloss" my Mansun! Speaking of Mansun.. I almost used them as a frame of reference on a recent review, but figured "who the frill is gonna know who Mansun are?".
Anyway, yay to Britpop. I think it's still the best genre for pumpin' on your stereo.
Cheers,
David
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Jul 19 '05
9:59 pm PDT
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Lovely write-up! (Reply to this comment)
by MattBjorke
I have many of these records for next to country, Brit-pop is my second favorite genre. I am also loving the "new wave britpop" that comes from Kaiser Chiefs and Franz Ferdinand and company.
I will have to check Athelete out (and some others here) when I get to beijing. They'll be so affordable there ;)
Matt
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Jul 19 '05
6:49 pm PDT
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Wonderful Perspective... (Reply to this comment)
by thevoid99
I wonder if you want to take a look at my script for "She's a Star". Though it's set in NYC, the music is mostly British inspired including stuff like MBV, New Order, Stone Roses, and the Lightning Seeds song "Pure" which I've been trying to get. I wanna go for a Brit-Pop perspective on a story set in NYC in an attempt to be idiosyncratic.
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Jul 19 '05
9:25 am PDT
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