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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on you! (Reply to this comment)
by PhoenixFlight
If ignorance is bliss then you must be the happiest person on this planet. A simple observance of the person I am communicating with (ie. you) and BAM, you turn it into an attack on your nephew and his views.
1) Yes I have served my country and I bare the scars and a once a month disability check from the government for the rest of my life to prove it.
2) Yes I have lost a child! Have you?
I don’t speak out of my as s like some people and I don’t offer up uninformed commentary on what others should or should not write. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and everyone is entitled to one.
It is not I but you that need to grow up. Pay attention to the details of life that go on somewhere other than the tiny little area around you that you call home. Grow up? I think not!
It seems that as of now you are the only one that I have riled and if rating your plagiarized material not helpful and asking Epinions if I can pad my opinions with ‘cut and paste’ material from manufacturers offends you, get over it.
And it was not heartless but heart felt!
PF
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Sep 20 '05
7:23 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Shame on you! (Reply to this comment)
by PhoenixFlight
“I will sleep very well tonight:)”
Of course you will. Because the POC/LC has provided you with that security blanket that keeps you so warm and toasty at night.
PF
PS I pray that your nephew never has to see the horrors of war.
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Sep 19 '05
7:51 pm PDT
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Re: Shame on you! (Reply to this comment)
by PhoenixFlight
Question:
Having taken the time to notice that you have a nephew in the service I ask you these two things:
If your nephew were to have a tour or two in Iraq or Afghanistan and survive them, would you be proud and tell people about it? Right now you are so proud of him graduating and becoming an Airman you have posted an announcement on your homepage.
If your nephew were to have a tour or two in Iraq or Afghanistan and not survive, would you smudge his memory and sully the president of the United States? I can’t answer that one for you but that is exactly what Cindy Sheehan has done.
Furthermore, I am not speaking for her son; I am speaking for myself as an American citizen. The next time Al Qaeda or some other terrorist faction attacks us on our soil and kills innocent civilians remember my next words..
This is our fight. Every insurgent killed in Iraq is one less radical that chose to take his or her fight to Iraq to become a hero instead of taking it to America to become a martyr.
Think about it while you sleep peacefully at night because this is our fight!
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Sep 18 '05
8:47 am PDT
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Shame on you! (Reply to this comment)
by iluvbirds
First of all you have no right to speak for this womans Son. Telling her that he would be ashamed of her....Shame on you for thinking such a thing let alone posting it up here for everyone to see. You have no idea what he would say or think if he were still here. Furthermore, you are not a Mother and have no understanding of what this Woman is going through.
Yes her Son was a soldier, and yes he took an oath to serve and protect his country. But this wasn't our fight. There was no need for him to die. I applaud this man's Mother for what she is doing and am ashamed of your ignorance and lack of compassion.
Savanna
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Sep 17 '05
5:40 pm PDT
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Re: You don't have to agree with war to be a patriot... (Reply to this comment)
by PhoenixFlight
The term “sign on the dotted line please” means that when those of us who have served our country both in peace time and in war know that the possibility of dying comes with the job.
Sure there were no WMD’s found in Iraq. That doesn’t mean that the war there is illegal. The former regime (read Saddam) that led that country actively sought to kill Americans and offered payments to the families of suicide bombers. These payments were more than what an American soldier makes in a year.
So what is incredibly important here is that the citizens of this county remember one thing and one thing only. The war in Iraq is a direct result of threats made against this country by a government that was hostile towards the people of this country.
Since you are new and more to the point will probably never write another thing here it is just as probable that it is a moot point to explain to you that members know where my name is signed as well as where to write me personally. And since you didn’t place that information in your just opened an account to call me self righteous members page I’ll just thank you for taking the time out of your life to reply to my diatribe .
KMAP
Robert
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Sep 01 '05
7:30 am PDT
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You don't have to agree with war to be a patriot... (Reply to this comment)
by taffy88
Bottom line here is that Cindy Sheehan's son should never have been killed in Iraq...nor should the sons and daughters of anyone else.
This war is illegal. George W. Bush and his henchman knew there were no "weapons of mass destruction." They created an atmosphere so that they could go to war with Iraq for reasons only they know for sure and you and I can only guess at.
In a world where things were right-side-up...George W. Bush would be impeached for lying to Congress and to the citizens of this country about something so incredibly important.
I understand that when people sign on in the armed forces they do so with the knowledge that they may be required to fight wars. However, I don't believe that means they are required to fight "wars" that are unneccessary and unjust (if there IS such a thing as a just war!).
If we are truly patriot, we should all support Cindy Sheehan's cry in the wilderness to know why she had to lose her son in this unbelievably cynical "war" against a people who could no more have erased the United States from the map than the man in the moon.
What we should be using our resources for is in the cause of righting the lives of people who have been devastated by the tsunami in Indonesia and the awful aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, for instance.
As patriots, I urge you all to contribute anything you can to helping the people of the Gulf Coast rebuild their lives instead of spending your time reviling one another verbally on epinions.
Oh, and if you're going to write self-righteous diatribes...at least have the courage to sign your name.
Susan E. Cook
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Aug 31 '05
10:07 am PDT
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Re: hey there... (Reply to this comment)
by PhoenixFlight
....very interesting indeed!!!
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Aug 31 '05
6:25 am PDT
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Re: Frankly... (Reply to this comment)
by PhoenixFlight
While I agree with you to a point, she certainly has suffered a great loss, at this point I think she should be seen and not heard. She is borderline delusional with some of her viewpoints and voices an opinion that some, myself included, find to be undignified for both herself and the memory of her son.
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Aug 31 '05
6:23 am PDT
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hey there... (Reply to this comment)
by sleeper54
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Source:
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/11/iraq.us/
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.
Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133.
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It would be interesting to know how her Senators and Representatives voted on the resolution.
It would be interesting to know if she has the same apparent hatred for them, if they did indeed vote for war, that she seems to have for the President.
...tom...
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Aug 30 '05
9:36 pm PDT
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Frankly... (Reply to this comment)
by _haggis_
...when she called the folks who killed her son "Freedom Fighters," she might just have tarnished his memory a tad.
But she suffered a great loss, and because of it, she deserves to be heard. So too do the many, many other grieving mothers that find her words so appalling. Sadly, they don't have the same financial backing she does.
Hags
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Aug 30 '05
8:35 pm PDT
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Re: Bullshit (Reply to this comment)
by PhoenixFlight
I don't claim to speak for either Sheehan. As an American citizen I am expressing my opinion that the way she has handled her tragic loss has only made it more tragic.
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Aug 30 '05
7:54 pm PDT
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Bullshit (Reply to this comment)
by MiDoyle
Hard work is being the President of the United States.
Hard work is defeating terrorism abroad before fighting it in our homeland.
Hard work is standing up on principle while others won’t.
Hard work is also:
Justifying a war under false pretenses:
NO WMDs,
NO connection between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks,
NO Nuclear program
No threat to America
Hard work is "a slam dunk"
Hard work is
Ignoring the remnants of the Taliban and the larger OBL threat to concentrate on the easier Saddam target
Hard work is Ignoring the needs of our troops and not giving them the tools, armor, firepower, and troops to actually finish the job
Hard work is Not sealing the Iraq border against the insurgency
Hard work is Failure to declare martial law to keep order so we can be PC correct and make friends with the Arab oil states
Hard work is expecting to be greeted with roses and champagne when you've just leveled a nation
Hard work is Failure to plan for the end of ground action with any sense of urgency
Hard work is making Homeland Security a pork barrel distributor of funds to states with no security concerns while the ports and cities of the East coast are neglected.
Hard work is never vetoing a spending bill in five years
Hard work is tax cuts to the richest Americans while the middle class is squeezed dry
Hard work is the largest deficits in history
Hard work is helping Iraq become the same Islamofacist government that we find in Iran. [No Bush administration rationales will cover up that mistake. We liberated Iraq so it could become Iran. Great idea Bush/Rumsfield/Cheny/Rice, etc. Way to go!]
Hard work is five weeks of vacation in August
Hard work is bike rides being more important than 5 minutes with a grieving mother
Hard work is sending out the smear troops as soon as said mother proves to be connecting with her fellow citizens
Lastly, you don’t speak for Cindy Sheehan and her son. She’s entitled to her grief and her opinions. If we had a president with any sense we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place. And Ms. Sheehan is not the problem, only a sad consequence of this president's wanton neglect of reality.
The only exit plan Bush has is leaving this mess for the next president to clean up.
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Aug 30 '05
12:52 pm PDT
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