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by George_Chabot
pertinent points. I hope everything is all right with you. I did read one or two of your reviews but didn't want to give it a whorish click hoping for reciprocity if you know what I mean. Ed Grover gave me several nice comments also. He was quite a member back when. ;>
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Apr 26 '09
4:52 am PDT
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Hiya (Reply to this comment)
by smorg
Man! I'm sorry you haven't been posting more. I got routed to you from one of Tom (Sleeper54)'s 'best advises' posts, and now I'm having a ball reading your old reviews... And I'll attest to the fact that great reviews don't get old, they get classical!
Wishing ya' a very Happy Holiday!
Smorg :O)
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Dec 09 '06
2:01 pm PST
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my my my (Reply to this comment)
by AggieBrett
Doesn't seem like years since this place was one of the first places I looked in the morning and one of the last I peeked before calling the day done, and yet... here we are.
I think I come back to wander the old place even less often than you do, Richie-poo, as everytime I do it still feels too much like the site of a huge heartbreaking disaster. I look back on some of the old comments threads and get that same nasty feeling, like there was something really cool and wonderful here once upon a time and I was too busy having fun to take total stock of what it was, what it meant.
And then it was over. Done. Gone.
Weird how that works.
Hope you and yours remain well. I'd say something maudlin and emotional, 'cept I was always a bit of an @ss.
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B
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Aug 18 '06
9:29 pm PDT
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by balogun
My goodness.
There is nothing much that I can say, because I pretty much agreed with everything you said. Since I joined epinions about four months ago, I always find myself treasuring the comments and the discussions a lot more than the ratings - at least it shows that the person spent some considerable time reading my piece and moved him/her to say something about it.
I don't know how Ed Grover is doing, but I really hope he is doing better. My prayers go out to him. And thank you for a well-written, heartfelt and touching essay.
Dayo a.k.a. the Balogun
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Jul 27 '06
1:43 pm PDT
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I agree (Reply to this comment)
by shopaholic_man
I like comments better than hits, IS or very helpfuls. Great essay!
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May 31 '06
4:57 pm PDT
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Thankyou... (Reply to this comment)
by WulfsDen
... for writing this tribute. I am not sure that it has made me see the world in a different way, but it has given me something new to think about.
Ed
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Mar 30 '06
8:39 pm PST
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This was (Reply to this comment)
by msmorvay
kind and very honest. So true the comments are the greatest rewards here. The verify that; Yes someone has read what I have written, and they have been moved to tell me what they think about it. Sometimes the thoughts are not always kind but at least they thought enough to leave a comment. And I know when things were rough on me that there are some very nice people here I can always count on to make my day a little happier with their comments. Thank you for leaving your thoughts. Ed was a very nice guy.
Take care,
Rae
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Mar 28 '06
5:52 am PST
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comments are the best part (Reply to this comment)
by jankp
I love writing so reviewing is fun for me, but it sure is nice to get friendly comments. This was a thoughtful piece and I'm glad to have you back sharing, but it's very sad about Ed. A gentle soul if there was one.
Jan
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Mar 28 '06
12:02 am PST
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So true... (Reply to this comment)
by kelly60
...comments mean so much more than many will ever know. Life is too short to forget that epinions IDs are not just IDs, they are real people. Though I really never knew Ed, I also knew of him through some of his reviews, but mostly through his comments I had read. Perhaps we should all try to be more like him.
Kelly
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Mar 23 '06
11:05 pm PST
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@[xxxx]§::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::> (Reply to this comment)
by flamepillar
I was just thinking about you at work last week, how you explained what the "2003dm" part of your nickname means. As is often the case, I figured I'd never "see" you again and you'd just always be a figment of my cherished memory. On the other hand, I think about so many people and things at work that I guess it shouldn't be a surprise to see one of y'all up in my alerts again.
Had no idea about Ed, that's really too bad. I have similarly fond memories of him, although he probably has no idea. I remember his mentioning something about how song lyrics always refer to children and I just so happened to be listening to "Wild World" by Cat Stevens at the time. So I left him this comment with a line from the song, "I'll always remember you like a child" saying "Hey, there's another one" or something. He trusted me shortly after that.
It's funny how you remember little things like that, though, ain't it. I mean that was at least 3 years ago, 'cause I remember where I was living when it happened and I moved out of there in April of 2003.
Well hey, glad to see you around!
And I shall join you and others in praying for Ed_Grover..
FP
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Feb 23 '06
8:03 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: Rich! (Reply to this comment)
by Dr_Steph
Thanks, Rich, but I don't remember being the one to reach out. I pretty much had blinders on unless someone opened my eyes in the comments section.
Epinions is not anything like it used to be. Much more of an obligation and much less of a meaningful experience. I'm really not sure why I'm still here (other than basic greed). However, the rare sighting of all old friend like you makes it all worthwhile. Make sure you stop in every few years and wake us back up, OK?
Thanks!
Steph
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Feb 18 '06
1:33 pm PST
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Re: Missed you Rich (Reply to this comment)
by rich2003dm
"You...are just a star in so many of our hearts."
Don't be alarmed.
It's probably just a gas bubble.
Miss you, too.
Rich
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Feb 18 '06
5:25 am PST
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Re: Re: Rich! (Reply to this comment)
by rich2003dm
Great to hear from you, Steph!
My comments to theeye, another old and dear Epinions friend, hold true in your case too. You were the one who was open and generous enough to initiate the friendship and never let it fade despite my frequent inattention. I thank you for not being the typical Epinions by the book reciprocal type friend. You were and continue to be real, and warm, and human. You added so much to my enjoyment of this place.
Best regards,
Rich
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Feb 18 '06
5:20 am PST
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Re: Howdy, stranger. (Reply to this comment)
by rich2003dm
I remember you well, haggis!
Good guy...funny...likes to laugh. That's my kind of person. Nice to see you're still here.
Yeah. Ed is one of the good guys. Damn shame that we tend to not acknowledge their goodness until they're beset by such troubles. A kind word shouldn't be a salve to put on someone's wounds. It should be the cherry on top of someone's ice cream sundae.
I'm sorry I didn't put that cherry on top of Ed's sundae when he was merrily devouring it.
A life's lesson for me.
Thanks for reading.
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Feb 18 '06
5:03 am PST
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Re: Rich! (Reply to this comment)
by rich2003dm
Thanks, my friend. I do appreciate the kind words.
I did make some very good friends here. That's what made it fun for a while. But all of my friends here are generous folks like you who took the time and trouble to reach out to me.
O.K., I wasn't an ogre. I've always considered myself to be a decent man. But I can't recall my ever passing on that same kindness to others. And, all too often, folks...strangers...left comments for me that I was just too damned lazy or busy to answer. I didn't consider that a real person was giving of their precious time and extending a hand of friendship to me through the comments section.
I can't turn the clock back and do it over, but I can at least acknowledge my failing and maybe point some new folks who may read this in the right direction. Show 'em the only important and lasting aspect of this site.
All that aside, it's wonderful to hear from you. I'll certainly note your e-mail address and keep in touch.
Rich
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Feb 18 '06
4:52 am PST
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Re: hey there... (Reply to this comment)
by rich2003dm
Good to see you're still around and kicking, my friend. Hope life is going well for you. You're a good guy and deserve good things.
Best regards,
Rich
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Feb 18 '06
4:31 am PST
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Re: Wow! (Reply to this comment)
by rich2003dm
Thanks for the kindness, Don.
I'm happy to see that there are still plenty of good folks here.
I do miss you all. But I don't miss that hampster wheel that this place came to be for me.
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Feb 18 '06
4:29 am PST
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Re: I didn't really know him either, much to my chagrin. (Reply to this comment)
by rich2003dm
"Damn, I hope you're not a big Streisand or Madonna fan what with you being from NYC."
Not unless they can hit .325 and drive in over a 100 runs.
Singers?
Blah! I'm more solidly grounded.
Let's go Mets!
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Feb 18 '06
4:25 am PST
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Missed you Rich (Reply to this comment)
by jnbmoore
You always leave great comments and are just a star in so many of our hearts
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Feb 17 '06
8:31 pm PST
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Re: Rich! (Reply to this comment)
by Dr_Steph
Ditto for me, Rich! I never, I mean NEVER read the general comments on Epinions reviews. I couldn't pass up your name, though. You're a hard guy to forget, you know.
What's this with you being indifferent to engage people on a human level? I certainly don't remember that about you. I wouldn't have cared nearly as much about you if you hadn't engaged me in some way. You made a difference even if you didn't know it. And now you've made a difference again because you've gotten me to think about Ed Grover in a new way. I've never known him well and I certainly didn't know he was ill. But now I know and now I care.
Thanks, friend. I've really missed you...
Steph
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Feb 17 '06
6:48 pm PST
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Howdy, stranger. (Reply to this comment)
by _haggis_
Nice to see you back, for however short a time.
I haven't interacted much with Ed in comment sections, but I remember being wowed by a WC piece he wrote about his father. It was striking in its simplicity, its warmth and its humanity. I managed to read many more of his articles after that, and they all shared those same qualities.
I wish him a peaceful journey.
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Feb 17 '06
12:19 pm PST
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Rich! (Reply to this comment)
by theeye
What a wonderful surprise to see your name on my notifications. I don't scrutinize them all that closely these days, but as luck would have it, I looked closely enough to catch an old friend's name this time.
Now, my old friend, I have a bone to pick with you.
What's this? When I was active here, I did it all wrong. I was too busy, lazy, or, perhaps, indifferent to engage people on a human level.
Excuse me? Let me clue you in on something. When I see a posting listed as 'General Comments on Epinions.com', it takes something truly extraordinary to catch my attention in the millisecond before my eyes glaze over and I move on. My working assumption (valid 99% of the time) is that there isn't going to be anything compelling to read there, so I move on.
But this time, there was something compelling. That something compelling was the name 'rich2003dm'. Now I admit that your track record of writing hilarious parodies is part of the appeal, but what made it absolutely imperative that I read this piece was -- wait for it -- the fact that you - very particularly YOU - did engage me on a human level while you were here.
So enough of this nonsense. You don't much feel like reading reviews of random household goods? No problem. Don't feel like leaving ratings when you do read? I quite understand. The muse isn't speaking to you and we won't be seeing any new reviews any time soon? Disappointing, but we'll deal.
But don't for a moment go around thinking that you haven't connected on a human level or that you're not dearly missed around these parts, my friend. THAT is Not Helpful at all, insofar as it ain't true.
My email address is on the profile page, Rich, if you ever want to talk. Always be glad to hear from you.
And, yes, Ed Grover is a true gentleman. Very sad to hear his news.
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Feb 17 '06
8:01 am PST
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hey there... (Reply to this comment)
by sleeper54
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you said...
"Remember this. Someone can click on your review and hit a rating in a second and their name will show up as having read it. And the cherished Epinions 'Trust' is just as superficial, if not worse."
Sometimes a rate is like that touch you give your wife as you brush past her in the kitchen or the hug you give your kid 'for no reason' or the handshake with a friend you have not seen in a long time . . .and some times it just is a 'whorish plea for reciprocity'.
When in doubt, read the comments . . .or write a humour piece.
Nice to read your words my friend . . ..
...tom...
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Feb 17 '06
7:02 am PST
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Wow! (Reply to this comment)
by Don_Krider
Thoughtful, intelligent commentary --- thanks! Believe it or not, you are missed around here.
Don :)
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Feb 17 '06
2:46 am PST
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I didn't really know him either, much to my chagrin. (Reply to this comment)
by oldcomixfan
Ed Grover left a good-natured comment many years ago on my wildly unsuccessful and singular W/O concerning asexual pride and awareness as a snarky demand for equal time and appreciation for a grossly-overlooked and extremely small segment of humanity. George Washington Carver was a brilliant and creative asexual genius of the highest caliber right up there with Tesla, for example. I appreciated his tolerant amausement of my satirical rebuttal to the annual Gay Pride W/O which I expected to turn into something flammable.
He's no different and just as cool in real life as I had surmised from the comments/articles by some who have met him in person that I've stumbled across on this site from time to time.
He once told of one of his previous occupations as a Manhattan window-dresser or some other stereotypically-gay job, and how it lead to meeting a very young Barbara Streisand before her career took off - a manipulative bitch who coldly used people from what I gathered from his anecdote. I believe it. Or maybe it was Madonna...
Damn, I hope you're not a big Streisand or Madonna fan what with you being from NYC. Me and my big mouth. I better quit while I'm behind.
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Feb 16 '06
9:49 pm PST
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