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by AinsleyJo
How I looked at 7 or 8 years old watching cartoons?
I don't believe that anybody took any pictures of me, but I can remember what I was doing: laughing!
Even laughing afterwards everytime I thought about some of the cartoons.
Like there was this one where Popeye managed to get out of his house (forgot just how) and was dangling outside on a phone cord with an operator asking him over and over for the number that he wanted to dial while he was stammering, "B-b-b-b-but.." to try to get a word in edgewise that he didn't want to call anybody.
Then, there was the one where Popeye proposes to Olive Oyl and she accepts--and, then, she has a dream that they have a bunch of little bratty boys who rule the house and drive her crazy. When Popeye comes over the next day, she chews him out and tells him that she's never going to marry him.
Yes, The Flintstones sometimes showed cigarettes because, back then, cigarettes were acceptable (or moreso than they are today) just as The Beverly Hillbillies always had a Kellog's Corn Flakes box visible in their dinette because they sponsored the show.
However, the shows had different plots to them, and they didn't come across as a cigarette commercial.
That was a show about a prehistoric family where their activities, celebrities, etc. mirrored the current affairs of the time.
I've seen some great anime cartoons, too. The animation was cheap and limited, but the stories were meaningful. One of these was called Superbook, and it was popular about 20 years ago.
Cartoons--both past and present--seem to be designed with both adults and children in mind. There were those inside jokes in the older cartoons (such as making the characters act like real people), and you say that a lot of the anime was produced more for adults than children, even though they have also become children's cartoons.
The difference between the two is that there was lots to laugh about in the older cartoons, and they weren't so intense.
Yes, there are definitely some great cartoons still being made for kids, but it seems as if the majority of what you see is cartoon after cartoon of very intense and violent anime that seems kinda hypnotic.
But we're all entitled to our opinions--and I do make the choice of changing the channel.
Ciao!
AJ :-)
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Feb 03 '07
11:50 pm PST
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by HaplessChild
This really is the worst thing I have ever read.
First, a brief history lesson. Looney Toons and the like were shown to adults in front of feature films in movie theaters. Most of them contained things that were so racist, sexist, and offensive that when they started transferring the cartoons over to television, a great amount of them had to be banned.
Give you back your old time cartoons? That were used to make fun of the Japanese in WW2? Or how the Flintstones were used to sell cigarettes? You can keep them.
Secondly: Anime. Anime was produced in Japan when budget constraints did not allow for live action shows. A great deal of the stuff you see today is taken from the hundreds of cheaply produced cartoons each year in Japan. They look "cheap" because they are, but millions of people still find them entertaining. It should also be noted that a great deal of anime is for adults, not children and the US has already created a handy rating system that parents can use to screen adult cartoons from children cartoons.
Third: You can honestly say that you know how you looked at the age of 7 or 8 watching television? I don't think so.
Fourth: There are a ton of educational cartoons on television which you seemed to breeze over. It is your job as a parent to police you child's viewing habits. It is up to the individual to decide what is right for them.
Fifth: Violent crime has been decreasing since the 80's, with brief, recent spikes in the early 2000's. Most of the cartoons you are referring to came out in the 90's and are on eternal reruns, thus your "theory" doesn't make sense.
Special interest groups continue to equate the findings of kids who watch violent things on tv with cartoon violence, when you can find just as many studies stating the opposite.
Last: The last time they threw a subliminal message into a cartoon was when they had that ALF cartoon in the 80's. You know what the horrible image was? The Statue of Liberty.
I have no doubt you'll believe what you want to believe, but I wish you had done the smallest amount of research beforehand instead of just giving a knee-jerk reaction to the poem.
Today's cartoons may not be the rose-tinted utopia you remember, but adults have disliked children's programming as long as there has been children's programming, and for every show you dislike you can probably find one that you would find suitable for your children.
Or you can just turn off the TV altogether and do something else.
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Feb 03 '07
1:39 pm PST
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