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Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by lyoness913
Margaret,
I noticed that all of Pinn's comments to me as Mark_Campbell (the ones I showed you about how I need to take 'constructive criticism, etc) have been erased. Pinn is really covering his tracks! I'll bet his jaw dropped when you called out his second identity! LOL! I guess he can blame me for ratting him out!! I wonder what his next name will be...
;)
Summer
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Oct 11 '07
2:53 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
"Such a koinkydink..."
Yeah - which means it is not a fact. PROVE that he has been identified! PROVE IT!
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Oct 11 '07
2:09 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
It could very well just be a random rate though? Right?
Wrong. You haven't been paying attention. There is a way to positively identify hidden raters.
I mean I am sure Pinn is not the only person on this site who has left a lower than VH rate right?
Not on my reviews, no. And probably not on some of the others in question here. And it's not about "lower than VH." It's about a HIDDEN (but easily identifiable) NH. Big difference.
I don't think that every NH you or anyone else receieves from here on out should be blamed on him.
Never got one before he showed up. And I'd venture a guess that the other people involved never did either. Such a koinkydink...
I didn't check, does this Mark have an email addie? You could email him and ask why he left a NH...
The kind of peopple who hide behind hidden ratings aren't likely to acknowledge them when asked directly.
Read my lips:
HE
HAS
BEEN
POSITIVELY
IDENTIFIED
AS
THE
PERSON
WHO
LEFT
THE
HIDDEN
NH
RATINGS.
Margaret
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Oct 11 '07
1:01 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Good point, Melissa! And since it is obviously just Margaret's opinion that William Pinn is Mark Campbell, then it appears that it is not actually a fact. Interesting, huh?
Also, since Epinions has privacy rights, no one in a position of power would be able to legally reveal what type of interaction that William Pinn had with the management of Epinions. Therefore, that renders her second statement as rumor, or her opinion, which again, does not make it a fact.
So be sure you have your facts straight next time you try to defame and humiliate a person, Margaret.
Oh - fact number three: I am certainly not the only person here that likes William Pinn.
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Oct 11 '07
11:51 am PDT
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Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
It could very well just be a random rate though? Right?
I mean I am sure Pinn is not the only person on this site who has left a lower than VH rate right?
I don't think that every NH you or anyone else receieves from here on out should be blamed on him.
I didn't check, does this Mark have an email addie? You could email him and ask why he left a NH... if not... one may never know, but one should not accuse.
I know the possibility of such things remains in everyones thoughts though, but perhaps some of us over think ratings we recieve?
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Oct 11 '07
11:33 am PDT
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Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
More directly - how is that considered to be proof that William Pinn is also Mark Campbell? I would really like to know.
Oh - and did you not get upset by WP's honest and helpful comments that he had left on on some of your friend's reviews?
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Oct 11 '07
11:30 am PDT
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Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
And how is that considered proof of a fact, Margaret?
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Oct 11 '07
11:18 am PDT
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Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
His recent ratings on my reviews were hidden NHs.
And to the best of my knowledge, other than to tell me to keep up the good work, he has not left comments on my reviews.
Margaret
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Oct 11 '07
11:04 am PDT
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I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Where is the proof that Mark Campbell is William Pinn? May I also point out that when WP rated you openly and honestly and left comments explaining his reasons, that's when you blew a gasket, Margaret. I think that people here are just too vain to accept the fact that they can't please everyone, so they make up conspiracy theories to throw everyone off course.
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Oct 11 '07
9:14 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by Don_Krider
ginzo wrote: If you put the suspected revenge rater on your block list,the hidden rating should disappear.
That's how you find out who hidden revenge rates
For anyone interested, Mobiprof explained how to find a "hidden" rater in great detail in a review called "Raiders Of The Lost Rating: Revealing Their Ratings" at http://www.epinions.com/content_3652821124 .
Alex, those were fascinating links, amigo.
Dusty, your comments earlier, "It's my desire we continue on with our lives and keep things on a more normal level. I, for one, am eager to enjoy a more peaceful EpinionLand and let wounds heal," were lovely thoughts. I hope you're doing well at this difficult time.
Don :)
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Oct 11 '07
8:50 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
BTW: He had a choice as to whether to leave or stay. He CHOSE to leave. I wonder why? LMAO.
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Oct 11 '07
8:24 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
I mean, if it's a fact that he is Mark Campbell, lets see the proof. I'd also like to see the proof that he was asked to leave. Show me. Come on.
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Oct 11 '07
8:18 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Yeah. That's a good question, Melissa. :) Nice to see you here, BTW!
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Oct 11 '07
8:17 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
How do you figure that he is Mark Campbell?
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Oct 11 '07
8:15 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Thanks, Ginzo. I appreciate the info. I wasn't actually going to email Margaret, though. LOL.
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Oct 11 '07
8:12 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Whatever, Margaret. The only part of your message that is fact is the third statement.
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Oct 11 '07
8:11 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
If you put the suspected revenge rater on your block list,the hidden rating should disappear.
That's how you find out who hidden revenge rates.
No need for groupie emails,just say it.
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Oct 11 '07
7:47 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
Nothing I said in that comment, except for the last bit, was opinion:
- Pinn has a duplicate account, Mark_Campbell,
- he got asked to leave the site, and
- there's a way to identify hidden raters.
Those are all facts.
There is a difference between opinion and fact.
Margaret
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Oct 11 '07
7:46 am PDT
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Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Your opinions mean as much to me as mine mean to you, Margaret. :)
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Oct 11 '07
6:07 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Oh, Alex! You are just THE man, you know that?
;)
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Oct 11 '07
6:04 am PDT
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Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
OH! That's right, because you are in the bubble that is Epinions. I almost forgot! Far be it from me to burst YOUR bubble! LOL.
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Oct 11 '07
6:03 am PDT
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Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
In case anyone is wondering, the man that so many of these people loathe is named William Pinn and the article that he wrote is entitled Epinions Deserves a Ticket for Gross Stupidity.
He is SO RIGHT!
But he's been thrown off the site and his account has been deleted, so I guess we won't get to read his article, will we?
Margaret
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Oct 10 '07
10:15 pm PDT
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Re: Interesting. (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
The man that you all loathe so much chooses to delete his account from this site,
Actually, he was thrown off the site. But his duplicate account, Mark_Campbell, remains, in violation of the Epinions TOS.
...goes on to write an awesomely accurate and true article about this truly loathesome place,
So why are you here, if it's so loathesome?
and because you get a couple of hidden revenge raters, you are just so sure that it is him.
Neither you nor your guy seem to realize that there is a way to determine who left hidden ratings. If you want to know how it works, e-mail me and I'll be glad to share it with you, so you can also see who is leaving those hidden ratings.
You know he can't stand you, either. Maybe he had some people here that liked him. Did you ever think of that?
Of course. We know that. You're it.
I've never had any problems with other members, in almost eight years here. There are people I don't like, and I know there are people who probably don't like me. And we are content to let that be. Your Pinn is the first one in my experience here who feels the compulsion to harass and stalk and down-rate the people he doesn't like.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth. :)
Not much.
I have no problem with people who don't like me or people who don't like my writing. I welcome their comments and civil discussion. I most definitely DO have a problem with people who harass and stalk people here for no reason other than that they doesn't like what they say.
As soon as your Pinn starts leaving visible ratings instead of hiding behind hidden ones, and states clearly why he's doing so, we'll "get over" it, as you so quaintly put it. Until then, hidden revenge raters are fodder for comments.
Margaret
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Oct 10 '07
10:13 pm PDT
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BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
In case anyone is wondering, the man that so many of these people loathe is named William Pinn and the article that he wrote is entitled Epinions Deserves a Ticket for Gross Stupidity.
He is SO RIGHT!
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Oct 10 '07
5:21 pm PDT
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Interesting. (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
The man that you all loathe so much chooses to delete his account from this site, goes on to write an awesomely accurate and true article about this truly loathesome place, which just happens to be on the number one page when you Google Epinions.com, and because you get a couple of hidden revenge raters, you are just so sure that it is him.
Why in the world would he even bother to revenge rate you, Dusty? He already told you what he thought of your poem. Why would he bother with you, Margaret? You know he can't stand you, either. Maybe he had some people here that liked him. Did you ever think of that? Maybe there are people that don't like some of you for their very own reasons that have nothing to do with the one that you all cannot seem to get over. That does seem highly plausible to me.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth. :)
MZ
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Oct 10 '07
5:16 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: What the....? (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Margaret,
Could you email me and let me know HOW you can find this out as I, too, have one of these ratings? :)
And thanks.
Dusty
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Oct 10 '07
1:57 pm PDT
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Re: Re: What the....? (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
Don't cheer too fast - he's not gone yet. He has a duplicate account and used it to revenge-rate one of my reviews with an NH. I guess he doesn't know that there's a way to identify hidden raters.
Margaret
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Oct 10 '07
9:14 am PDT
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Re: What the....? (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Thanks John.
I do hate to see AC saddled with his kind...it is indeed sad, but when the garbage was taken out, things smelled much fresher on this side of the fence. :)
Dusty
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Oct 09 '07
6:08 pm PDT
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What the....? (Reply to this comment)
by Bruguru
Dusty, sorry you had to go through this. This is a tough enough time for you as it is, I'm sure. Pinn has now run off to Associated Content and published an anti-Epinions diatribe there.
Sad, sad, sad.
Regards,
John
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Oct 09 '07
3:44 am PDT
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Re: I decided (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
The question is,"What do you find wrong with my helpful rating? Am I not entitled to my epinion?
What is so insulting that it needs to be questioned? Do you not state that it is for your own pleasure and ratings mean nothing? Geesh!
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Oct 08 '07
10:50 am PDT
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