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Re: Re: An Ocean of... (Reply to this comment)
by kengland4
I'm afraid I missed that, Barbara--we have put our only available tv service-Dish-on "pause" while we wait for Verizon to finalize their FIOS installation (it's been 3 months!), so our tv is basically Jay Leno streamed from Nbc.com, 1 day later. But I share your hope in our new elected leader, and the way people from all walks of life crossed over to make his the most decisive Democratic victory since JFK. But I'll be closely following developments. I don't think so many Americans-even the very young, below voting age-have become so knowledgeable and interested in government-well, since JFK.
Kevin
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Nov 29 '08
8:24 am PST
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Re: Hiya (Reply to this comment)
by kengland4
I share your sentiments, Smorg (and thanks for the B'day greet!). It looks like Congress is lined-up to have a stimulus package on his desk, ready to sign, on the DAY of his inauguration. I knew a lot of social litigation was necessary and coming, but I'm wary of the bailouts for the corporate cretins...we'll have to keep a close eye on all this!
Kevin
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Nov 29 '08
8:22 am PST
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Hiya (Reply to this comment)
by smorg
Happy B-Day, Kevin! And thanks for another interesting perspective, too. I'm happy that Obama won, especially considering the alternative (Ewwww!). Though I really don't envy the man his job. What a time to become a US president! :oP
Hopefully the many sore losers that are already bashing him even before he is sworn in will soon regain their perspective and try to work with him to fix our problems instead of just trying to win the 2012 election already.
Cheers,
Smorg :o)
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Nov 28 '08
6:31 pm PST
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Re: An Ocean of... (Reply to this comment)
by ifif1938
I was so moved and so happy the night of the election, I still am and proud that Americans stood up and voted for the person who deserved to win regardless of race or any other reason.
I was also worried that somehow the republicans would steal the election, thank God, that didn't happen. Now we at least have a chance to get out of the deep dodo the Bushmeister got us into...I know it will take time but at least it will be done somehow with a man of competence at the helm and the intelligence of those who will be his advisors and in his cabinet... A also think he is soo cool and loved watching him with Michelle on Barbara Walters the other night. did you catch that?
Many thanks for this insightful article
best wishes,
Barbara
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Nov 28 '08
2:19 pm PST
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Re: Interesting perspective... (Reply to this comment)
by kengland4
Well, there was at least the Supreme Court justice (Scalia)? And you're right--during the tail-end of the Civil War, the Black population in the SOUTH was about one-third (according to a website on Civil War history, and my faulty memory). According to the 1990 census, Blacks were 25-29 percent of Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina. And Wikipedia lists the Black population as 19.3% (highest) in 1790, which stayed above 18% until post-1830. I was also confusing this with "White flight"--whenever a sizable city's Black population has reached a consistent level, Whites have tended to move elsewhere. Thanks for providing a "check" for me.
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Nov 08 '08
7:38 pm PST
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An Ocean of... (Reply to this comment)
by jenniferkateab
When I watched the election crowds cheering for Obama, it struck me that it was not a sea of one race or color, but that it was a completely heterogenous crowd (myself included). So many people I have talked to feel like I do ~ I hoped and prayed for Obama, but in my heart, I held a seed of doubt that his election could really come true and would come to pass. Somehow, I wondered, would the election be "stolen"? Would the forces of fear and hate rise up to quell his victory?
No, they didn't, and personally I feel vindicated. I feel that my country has once again stirred my ideals and erased the cynicysm which has clouded our collective faces.
Bravo, Obama! And, thanks Kevin for providing me this sounding board. I appreciated your essay and I say, let's all be brothers and sisters in this country regardless of our backgrounds.
best ~
Jennifer
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Nov 08 '08
12:31 pm PST
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Interesting perspective... (Reply to this comment)
by vicfar
On the other hand, African-Americans had already reached prestigious positions in US society (look at Rice or Powell) and the presidency, at this point, is purely symbolic. African-Americans won't have any more clout in a society headed by Obama.
I don't think blacks were 1/3 of the US population after the civil war (they were 14%), and they never reached 20%. The numbers dropped till the 30's, but they have steadily rebounded since then.
I am anxiously awaiting the election of the first Italian-American (there are almost 20 million of them) president, but they have never broken through the glass ceiling either - Cuomo was our best chance. The Irish did it, so it's just a matter of time for us Italians!
Cheers
Vic
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Nov 06 '08
12:48 pm PST
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