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UNCLE REMUS SONG OF THE SOUTH (Reply to this comment)
by ckrebs
MY WHOLE FAMILY ABSOLUTELY LOVES THIS MOVIE, IT TEACHES LOVE AND THE ANIMATED PART IS SO MUCH FUN. I HAVE SEVERAL COPIES OF THE BOOK OF UNCLE REMUS SONGS OF THE SOUTH TALES AND MY HUSBAND AND SON STILL ENJOY LISTENING TO THE STORIES. I THINK DISNEY IS LOOKING AT THIS IN A TOTALLY WRONG WAY. IT IS A WONDERFUL MOVIE AND ANXIOUSLY LOOK FORWARD TO IT BEING RELEASED IN THE UNITED STATES.
CATHY KREBS
FLORENCE, KY
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Jan 13 '04
1:24 pm PST
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mmm (Reply to this comment)
by jankp
I will have to visit that website because I've so wanted to see this classic. Thank you!
Jan
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Mar 19 '03
3:10 am PST
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Evocative and your typical charming writing style.... (Reply to this comment)
by Joubert
...make this a Very Helpful epinion in my book. Darn it, though, I rated early and missed the histrionics.
There's a soup kitchen near my home that needs help if anyone interpreting Ye Ancient Rules of Epinions 2.0 has some spare time.
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Jul 22 '02
7:35 pm PDT
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What the @#$!%??? (Reply to this comment)
by eskimo101
This was a wonderful review of a true treasure. You wrote it as well as anyone could have. I can imagine that some people, specifically African Americans, would argue that the film is so historically erroneous and, in some respects, offensive to certain groups that it is in Disney Co.'s best interest to keep it shelved. I disagree, but everyone has a right to his/her opinion, and I could go on about that for a while, but there's no need. I just want to say that I enjoyed this film so much when I was a child, and when I managed to get a copy as an adult, I enjoyed it again.
But the point of my comment has a second part. You presented a first rate review and sparked a slew of nonsense (through no fault of your own) and that confuses me to no end. If these nuts believe that they are helping Epinions build strength in the community or are helping to draw people to the site with their sad, ridiculous nit-picking, I actually feel bad for them. What a sheltered, pathetic life one must lead to write some of these comments. Is it any wonder that some of the most creative members have up and left this site?
KC, I think you did a wonderful job! And I am truly sorry that anything could take even a tiny piece of that away...
- Mike Lynsky
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Jul 22 '02
8:49 am PDT
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Very Helpful! (Reply to this comment)
by Staceys1
Now that "Song of the South" has its own category and this review is in its proper place, it is most definitely a Very Helpful review.
I have exchanged emails with Casey directly, but I would like to apologize here again for what has transpired.
Stacey
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Jul 20 '02
3:24 pm PDT
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To everyone else (well, just about;) ) (Reply to this comment)
by anderclayton
I would love to stick around and push the point around a bit more but unfortunately I have to get going. Vacation (in case you weren't paying attention earlier).
Take it easy,
Ander
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Jul 20 '02
1:18 pm PDT
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Re: Ander (Reply to this comment)
by anderclayton
For the record, to stract:
"You claim to be an English major and someone WHO corrects others' grammar, and then you go and say stupid things like this: " I argue with plenty of people that aren't from other countries." PLEASE tell me you know what is wrong with your above statement."
Well now, I think that it is perfectly true (as I believe that I have proved here). Obviously it is a mistype and if you had presented it in a manner less antagonistic, I would have thanked you for the correction and moved on. One of my weaknesses is that I tend to not revise my comment posts before posting them.
Obviously though, the "aren't" should have been an "are."
Ander
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Jul 20 '02
1:07 pm PDT
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To Mr. Pyle Re: To Ander (Re: To Helen) (Reply to this comment)
by anderclayton
Well now. I apologize for the wait in getting to your tirade. While I admit that I deserve the rebuke, allow me the opportunity to reply.
1. Your list is, as always, your own choice.
2. Obviously this statement goes beyond this particular issue. It also isn't a statement that surprises me.
3. Motivations. Always a sticky issue. I have admitted that I acted in haste in presuming kcfoxy's actions. I stand rebuked for that presumption. I will take the tirade below those statements as being your own presumption of my own motivations in entering the thread.
Allow me though to clear that up a bit. When I first saw kcfoxy's post, I thought it was great and rated it highly. I did a quick search of the topic and figured that the picture was off or weird. For some reason, I wasn't familiar with the video cover for the Song in the South movie (it doesn't exist in the US) and was also unfamiliar with the whole Singalong product. So with a bit of trepadation I put my VH onto the review and moved on.
Well, I come back to this product and find this thread. I also find that someone else had posted a review that actually went with the topic listed here. Obviously my initial rating was incorrect. Generally in cases of OT I have frequently refrained from rating and put a message in the comments section. Coming to the comments section, I find kcfoxy's seemingly blithe dismissal of the other person's review.
I also find this post from a certain mshawpyle presuming the motivations for my actions and using my previous, incorrect rating as fuel in his tirade against kristinafh:
mshawpyle said:
"I also note that every other advisor in this genre who has rated this to date has failed to find it 'Off-Topic.' It is true that sometimes a minority of one is in the right, and all the world wrong. But for every Athanasius or Churchill, there will be a score of cranks, lunatics, flat-earth advocates, and UFO believers."
Well, seeing as how I was one of the advisors mentioned in this statement (whether you believe it deserved or not, I have been given that title)it then became my duty to properly display my own views on this issue. kristinafh had already left the discussion but this presumption still was present in the thread.
So...
Ander
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Jul 20 '02
12:51 pm PDT
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To kcfoxy: (Reply to this comment)
by anderclayton
I offer a humble and abject apology for presuming your motives in this case. My assumption was based on a hasty and incorrect review of the data and exacerbated by my hasty judgement of your post to staceys1.
Ander
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Jul 20 '02
12:29 pm PDT
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Correction: (Reply to this comment)
by anderclayton
Well, OK.
I just got a mail from Staceys1 and she did post the review earlier in the week (not last month). My tentative hypothesis was right.
Which means that...
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Jul 20 '02
12:23 pm PDT
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Re: I feel so... (Reply to this comment)
by Petra
Badkittym:
That's just your sentimental side.. you're not seeing clear from all your emotions...
blah blah blah blah *insert carefully crafted "ugh, I'm SO above you" comment here*
blah blah blah blah
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Jul 20 '02
2:15 am PDT
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Re: Re: I thought (Reply to this comment)
by anderclayton
Note also I e-mailed her yesterday evening in reply to an e-mail of hers (so she is anything but inactive).
Ander
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Jul 19 '02
9:54 pm PDT
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Re: Re: I thought (Reply to this comment)
by anderclayton
thedragonweyr said:
"Interestingly enough, although the review was posted in June ALL of the ratings are dated July, starting on the 15th. Could this be another Eps bug?"
I would guess that it might very well be. I am guessing that it probably isn't *another* bug but rather the same bug that has been plaguing Epinions for the last few months. That particular bug would be reviews have the date from when they first are put into draft form. This would mean that the review was probably actually posted either on the 15th or late on the 14th.
I e-mailed Staceys1 asking when she posted the review and have been waiting on the answer.
Right now I am guessing that was the case. It would explain a lot of things.
Ander
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Jul 19 '02
8:46 pm PDT
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Re: I thought (Reply to this comment)
by thedragonweyr
Oops, sorry, my mistake, I searched for Stacey1, not Staceys1. Yes, Stacey1 is a defunct account but Staceys1 is not. Suzer is correct.
Interestingly enough, although the review was posted in June ALL of the ratings are dated July, starting on the 15th. Could this be another Eps bug?
Anyway, she seems not to have suffered the slightest inconvenience from all this controversy. So, until she shows up here to tell us otherwise we can probably assume she is well and happy.
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Jul 19 '02
2:56 pm PDT
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Re: I feel so... (Reply to this comment)
by thedragonweyr
Marcy, don't feel too special just yet. The rating gizmo seems to have gone buggy on Casey's review. When I look at it I show as the only rater and suspect it is working that way for everyone.
Pamela
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Jul 19 '02
2:40 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by garym
KrispyTunaFugginHey:
Star FleetEnema, after deep thought and rectal scratching has chosen you to hold the title of MissBehavior!
Wear the title proudly as you carp on the behavior of everyone else while you feign blond innocence.
C untinue to be yourself.
C untinue to be yourself.
C untinue to be yourself.
L
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Jul 19 '02
1:02 pm PDT
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I thought (Reply to this comment)
by Suzer
both reviews were great, and rated them VH,
and everything is fine with Stacey:
http://www.epinions.com/user-staceys1
Suz
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Jul 19 '02
12:43 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by Petra
Mr. Edmonds:
Have you tried cross-stich? Woodworking? Finger-painting? Just trying to help
It's gardening. Not perusing the Nest, you have missed Mzzzzz Frazier's grand speech about how she would concentrate on her garden now that she was never going to return to Epinions.
But of course, that was before she huffed her way back onto the site.
It was right near all those "I demand to know when Epinions will fix all the bugs, and why is there so much wrong in the database, and I demand answers" blah blahs she posted trying to make herself out to be a solid critic of Epinions.
Bwaaahahaha!!!!
Integrity a la KFH ... it's a whole new invention.
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Jul 19 '02
12:13 pm PDT
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Oh how funny.... (Reply to this comment)
by Petra
Had anyone bothered to look, Stacy1's account in no longer active
LOL!!! But here is Kristinah telling us about how badly hurt Stacy's account is...
which means, either, KFH hasn't even LOOKED at the other account and is just picking up anything she sees in other peoples' comments which she thinks should be of advantage to her, or she intentionally uses arguments that don't even have anything to do with the topic at hand, hoping nobody will look and see that she tries to tell everybody she's just fighting a good cause when in fact, she's just full of hot air.
And since this review was moved, even IF the other account was still active, where would be the harm? People looking for the Sing-a-Long will still get to Stacey's review. Or does anybody here think that the past 3 days lured thousands of readers away from the second review which would still show up anyway if you look at that title?
Boy oh boy ...KFH at her finest. Making up a bunch of lies, claiming damage to others, all the while hoping that nobody can think for themselves and realize that she's just blowing smoke.
When others don't have 20 people show up for their support, they're still "not standing on their own feet" (btw: is that an insult, that which KFH said to me, she, who doesn't need to stoop to insults?). When others speak for themselves, they're part of a lynch mob.
When Mzzzz Frazier is all alone, it's because she's so mighty and good that she told those masses that share her thinking to step back for their protection because she will stand alone, proud and good as she is, and fight for the good of the site.
Way to go, Virgin of Orlean!
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Jul 19 '02
12:08 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by Petra
And as far as my "behavior" in this comment section, you'll notice that I haven't had to resort to personal attacks to get my point across like some other people.
Clarification: Mzzzzzzz Frazier only brought in another member's name who had nothing to do with this discussion because she KNEW it would cause the same FACTUAL STATEMENTS about that member.
Not only did she knowingly and intentionally drag in someone else in the hopes to see that person talked about for Mzzzz Frazier's personal gain, but she also is, as always, lying her @ss off.
Mzzzzz Frazier made plenty of comments about Mr. Pyle not being very intelligent, about Counsel's clouded judgement, etc.
In case you haven't noticed yet, Mzzzz Frazier, and we all know you're not the brightest, which is why you don't realize that your little games get laughed at by more people than you'd like to know, is that there's no class system to insults.
You don't get the extra point for not trying to word things a litte more uppity and snooty than others who just say things outright.
Oh and let's repeat this: I offered Mzzzzz Henry to remove all comments that may be considered insulting but she has ignored that e-mail and instead keeps crying about the insulting comments.
Hmmmmmmmmm...... guess if you weren't so desperate for a platform to preach from, you'd be concerned about the site's appearance and the mighty consumer and swallow your pride and agree to take down the rants. But of course, your head is so far up your @ss that swallowing ANYTHING is impossible.
Last not least ... you once again prove yourself to be a liar since you made your little pompous comment about how you are "always willing to discuss in e-mail" blah blah blah but you have not responded to my e-mail yet.
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Jul 19 '02
11:57 am PDT
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Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by CurtisEdmonds
"And no, I won't go away. Just to stick around and watch you squirm is one of my most favorite past times."
Have you tried cross-stich? Woodworking? Finger-painting? Just trying to help.
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Jul 19 '02
10:22 am PDT
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Re: Bring Out the Comfy Chair (Re: 'KC,' by official PITA KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by CurtisEdmonds
"The only thing wrong with the epinions database is that the movie KC reviewed was never in it."
Ye gods, woman. The holy sainted "epinions database" has more flaws than Bill Clinton's character. (Surely you've noticed some yourself?)
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Jul 19 '02
10:16 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by thedragonweyr
I may be "alone" in the comment section but I am not certainly alone in my thought process.
Kristina you seem to think that you are supporting some grand and noble cause of truth and beauty. Alas, all you are doing is behaving like a tantruming toddler. As you have not been a toddler for many years it is time to cease this behavior at once! The reason that you have no support in your assertions that Casey is wrong is that no one agrees with you.
As far as Casey is concerned, she and I have already emailed early yesterday morning.
I sincerely hope that you begged her pardon and abjectly abased yourself for your inappropriate actions. However, your continued contentiousness in this comments sections would belie that.
And as far as my "behavior" in this comment section, you'll notice that I haven't had to resort to personal attacks to get my point across like some other people.
Well, your "point" is a non-starter, wrong at the outset! And your "behavior" has been contemptible, you have hurled slurs against members who started out politely disagreeing with your rating.
It was you who began this battle, by rating an informative and finely-crafted review OT, based on your interpretation of the category. The official Eps stand be damned, you declared yourself above that authority and proceeded to beat your drum loudly - and, face it, all alone. (And, please, do not feel compelled to once again restate your erroneous points. Yelling the same lie repeatedly does not make it true. In this particular case it will only diminish you further in the eyes of the other participants.)
I know you have a great many friends on the site, I used to be one of them. Do you really think they have all turned against you? If you had a leg to stand on you would have much more support here than the ineffectual Ander whose only contributions, apart from his peripheral arguments with other commenters, has been to parrot back your incorrect thesis.
Because I used to number myself as one of your friends, I believe I am entitled to tell you, to your face, that you are not making a good showing right now, you are acting foolishly, much like Brer' Rabbit, punching the tar effigy (sorry, filter problems!). The more you posture and comment the more deeply mired you become. You know me, Kristina, I call them as I see them and I am seeing a very ugly side of you right now. Please listen to reason and stop this while you still retain some credibility and dignity.
I'm sorry, on a personal level, that you and I disagree and as far as this not being my finest hour, well, thanks for sharing. I hope that all of you who have rallied to what you perceive as the "side" of Casey will also take the time out to apologize to Stacey1 for your own behavior.
Had anyone bothered to look, Stacy1's account in no longer active. I don't think she is being hurt or helped by any of the fury currently swirling around these two very different reviews. She certainly is conspicuously absent in this comments section.
Even if she did care, Eps has made it abundantly clear that in their eyes, the eyes that see all and have the final say, neither review is "Off Topic" and they took steps to ensure both would be properly placed. How does this hurt Stacy1? The legitimacy of her review was never in question.
But all that aside, Casey generously allowed her effort to be moved rather than move Stacy1's earlier post. She could easily have insisted she be given priority but that is not her way. Truly kind people seldom demand special attention at the expense of others.
To reiterate, you know me well Kristina, I have a short fuse for rude and self-serving attitudes and, in the past I have supported you when I though you were on the side of reason. If I believed you were correct I would be supporting you right now. That should tell you all you need to know about your position in this matter! I remain
Very sincerely yours,
Pamela
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Jul 19 '02
6:40 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by Vormancian
What did we do to Stacey1?
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Jul 19 '02
5:06 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by kristinafh
Pam,
I may be "alone" in the comment section but I am not certainly alone in my thought process. As far as Casey is concerned, she and I have already emailed early yesterday morning.
And as far as my "behavior" in this comment section, you'll notice that I haven't had to resort to personal attacks to get my point across like some other people.
I'm sorry, on a personal level, that you and I disagree and as far as this not being my finest hour, well, thanks for sharing. I hope that all of you who have rallied to what you perceive as the "side" of Casey will also take the time out to apologize to Stacey1 for your own behavior.
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Jul 19 '02
4:53 am PDT
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Re: Spats! (Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH)) (Reply to this comment)
by Petra
Mr Pyle:
Let us not insult Goebbels or his family by comparing them to Carmelita.
Even Nazis should be allowed some dignity.
And while we're at it, let's point out one more time that it's only KFH's way of trying to make it out as if a bunch of people disagreeing with her must be a "posse" who was "called" by someone.
Hate to disappoint you, KFH, but if I had a "posse" coming, there'd be 30 different people in here commenting and the majority of those in this comment section wouldn't be part of that group.
I don't know Mr. Pyle other than from seeing his reviews here and there. I've sent him a total of 2 e-mails since I've been on Epinions, one about his web site, one about a history question, so I can't be part of his posse.
It's funny how you can only think in group mentality and how you must insist that everybody is either just complaining for complaints' sake or must be on one side or the other.
While everybody else on the site makes an effort to change that, YOU keep fueling it.
Nah, that's nobody calling in a posse. It's just everybody who likes Casey seeing your pitiful attempts at making yourself look oh-so-smart, and yeah, of course everybody makes fun of you on their boards and compares your e-mails, posts, comments, and more and more people see the games you play and how you lie to everyone and sell everyone out at the drop of a dime when you feel it suits your purpose.
How many e-mails have you sent to Alexis over the past few months letting her know how YOU would do things MUCH better if you were CL?
And how many of her replies did you forward to all your friends like you did Nirav's e-mail to all the SCADS participants?
Must we assume that the other 2 OT's and Ander are YOUR posse since that is how your mind operates?
Oh, and since I didn't just leave you with your self-made assumption and definitely answered your question about whether I'd apply the same standard if Lisa_J did the same thing, where's YOUR apology?
Or are you going to just ignore it since I actually answered you? Or you just going to pretend that I'm obviously lying? Well, then bring on the proof, Missy Frasier.
And one more thing: you couldn't have made your ignorance more obvious than when you said you don't need to read all comment threads to know what's going on. You DON'T know what's going on and unless you read all, you can't make a judgement.
But that's how you work, isn't it? No need to get all the facts, cause you'll make your own reality anyway.
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Jul 19 '02
12:50 am PDT
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Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by garym
"And no, I won't go away. Just to stick around and watch you squirm is one of my most favorite past times."
Jesus, Mary and Joseph! EDGARINA at the gates!!!
Hide the knives.
Love,
Gary
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Jul 18 '02
11:45 pm PDT
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Re: Re: The Inquisition Returneth (More Pathological Dissimulation from KFH) (Reply to this comment)
by thedragonweyr
Kristina, have you noticed that you are totally alone in this trumped up crusade? Unless, of course, you want to count Ander and, IMHO, having Ander on your side is hardly an advantage (Ander, can you say irony, how about sarcasm?).
Your behavior in this comment section has been disgraceful and you should be throughly ashamed of yourself. Not only have you lost this battle, both technically and on points, but are well on your way to losing the war. This has not been your finest hour, Kristina.
An apology to Casey would be in order; if you can't bring yourself to do that then perhaps slinking away to a quiet spot to lick your wounds in private would be your best option. Because, if you haven't noticed, your hide is full of holes. Go get stitched up before you bleed out!
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Jul 18 '02
10:45 pm PDT
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Excuse me... (Reply to this comment)
by repeatoffender
Is this the Goldstein bar mitzvah?
No? Okay, as you were.
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Jul 18 '02
9:14 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Excellent review, Casey! (Reply to this comment)
by rich2003dm
I do, on occasion, rate reviews off-topic. But I first look for mitigating factors before I place such a damning rating on any review. Casey explained the placement within the review itself, and in this case, I believe Casey was justified in posting this piece where she did.
Quite frankly, folks who gleefully and robotically run for their rule books without looking at other factors tend to frighten me. No book of rules can be written that can fairly apply to every situation. To compensate, most folks throw in some common sense and humanity. You didn't do that here.
No, this isn't personal. I don't know you. We don't read each other's stuff, and we don't trust each other.
I only know you through what transpired here and now. And that one part, I didn't like.
Rich
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Jul 18 '02
5:09 pm PDT
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