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Re: Re: Re: Re: "A" for imagination (Reply to this comment)
by marykaykathy
Im a Mary Kay rep and I buy whatever the hell I want to buy including other products from other companies. I do use our make up because it is the only make up that doesnt brake my skin out and i like clear skin. so get your facts straight before u speak
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Nov 12 '09
7:01 pm PST
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jennifernorth (Reply to this comment)
by hatinthegrind
I know I am definitely late and maybe you don't check this anymore but your blog was witty and well written. I hope you're a journalist somewhere or doing something fantastic with your talent. If my daughter had wrote this I would be so proud. I only found this because I want to hear about success stories of Mary Kay, because I have been hearing so many bad things. I just came across your article.
for those who feel consultants are too defensive, then that's your take. Like EVERYTHING else in life, the business is what you make of it. No more, no less.
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Jan 26 '09
8:00 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: "A" for imagination (Reply to this comment)
by trc3mk
I've only been with Mary Kay for almost 6 months. I'm a stay at home mom, and I also take care of my sister with cerebral palsey.I love my family, and being with them, and I Love MK! It allows me to do whatever I want. Nobody pushed me into it, I knew everything that was gonna go into it, and I'm still working on alot of my skills... but so far out of all the different women I've met, from all of the different backrounds and lifestyles, every single one of them has had an amazing and inspiring story of their own... and we get to share that with eachother every week. How many companies do you know of that encourage the workers to motivate eachother? How many other companies care at all about that stuff? As a mother, it's hard enough to find a business or a company that understands or cares when your kids sick or you're just not feeling good. I am an entrapeneur, and I have to say, that of all the small business ideas that I would maybe like to start, the startup cost for any of them would be FAR Greater than the little bit I put into my Mary Kay business. I personally just think you sound jealous that you could never start an amazing company like Mary Kay.
And BTW, I'm only an IBC, yes... I know when I signed up, that I was going to be "making more money" for the CEO's and such of the Mary Kay Empire. But I'm getting paid EXACTLY what I signed up to get paid, and as long as They pay me my share for commissions and all, then I dont care if everyone in Mary Kay BUT ME were Men. It's good honest, and fun work, and I make good money from it... and I love every second of it!
I Love Mary Kay!! :)
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Aug 26 '08
10:53 am PDT
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Re: Calm down ladies (Reply to this comment)
by sdrs
ceekay, you certainly are a breath of fresh air! Continued good luck to you.
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Aug 15 '07
5:59 am PDT
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Re: Re: Here's the Truth (Reply to this comment)
by sdrs
www.pinktruth.com should help you
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Aug 15 '07
5:54 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Why Don't They Just Call It "Mary Kay Ponzi Scheme?" (Reply to this comment)
by sdrs
Ummm... how about church?
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Aug 15 '07
5:52 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: "A" for imagination (Reply to this comment)
by sdrs
You are not the #1 skincare company in the world. That is false, but proposed by the MK company to keep IBCs in the pink fog. Good luck! The basis of that info is the number of products sold ONLY TO THE IBCs, not the actual clients, unless you only count the IBCs as clients. And, let's face it, you are not to buy any other brand of cosmetics if you are a consultant now are you?
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Aug 15 '07
5:37 am PDT
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Re: Re: "A" for imagination (Reply to this comment)
by sdrs
I think "negativity" should not be confused w/ "facts". In any decision, one should weigh the positives and negatives before jumping in. Unfortunately in MK a lot of times, the negatives (even though they are facts), are not presented. For instance, the 90% buy back policy only applies to the items you bought in the past year and no buy backs on discontinued items. Well, the basic skincare, colors, shapes and compacts are all to be discontinued VERY soon. So, what are you going to do with all of that stuff?
Also, the bragging about the "free" car. That care is not free. Drop below production and see where that car goes!
And, MK is run by a bunch of men. So, basically, women are peddling cosmetics for a bunch of men who continue to get richer by the minute by keeping the IBCs "thinking positive"!
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Aug 15 '07
5:32 am PDT
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this may help (Reply to this comment)
by sdrs
www.pinktruth.com
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Aug 15 '07
5:28 am PDT
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Re: 8 years later and only 1 regret! (Reply to this comment)
by jess104
And that is what Mary Kay intended for all of us! Inner happiness and fulfillment - time with our families - and a clear focus on what we want.
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Apr 26 '07
10:28 pm PDT
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Re: "A" for imagination (Reply to this comment)
by jess104
As a current Business Marketing major, I do have to say... Mary Kay Inc is all over the place! Many of my text books for my courses has specifically mentioned Mary Kay and how wonderful the corporate culture is and how so many more businesses should model their culture after ours. The information I read, while acing my courses, was part of the reason I chose to become a consultant myself.
When people want to bad mouth MK, (or any other company, product or person) they really need to research all angles before coming to a final decision. Stop spending so much time and energy on this negativity! You'd be surprised how your life will change! All of my MK sisters know exactly what I am talking about...
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Apr 26 '07
10:23 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Why Don't They Just Call It "Mary Kay Ponzi Scheme?" (Reply to this comment)
by jess104
I absolutely agree that women who are involved in Mary Kay are extremely caring & thoughtful women! I've never met women I like more than my MK sisters! I used to hate being around other women and dreaded when my husband tried to introduce me to a friend's wife or girlfriend because I knew drama would kick in somewhere. Now, I can't wait for my weekly Success Events or to get together with a client to share the wonderful products.
I was originally approached by a woman going through my line while I was a cashier at a big discount store. She asked if I would be interested in taking the time to pamper myself... Well of course I would! Between my job, working on my bachelor's in marketing, and my husband, I really didn't have "me-time." After getting together a second time for my color makeover, I agreed to let her "interview" me and chose to go to a weekly event as her guest to get a better idea as to what the "opportunity" held.
I fell in love! All these women got together and had a great time spoiling each other with pounds of recognition and barrels of appreciation! How is this possible? The women I had encountered in my life time, until then, could barely keep things civil in a room full of women, and there was no way so much positive energy could be fake!
I became a consultant and have loved every minute of it. Recently, my family had a little financial trouble and so many of my MK sisters offered their assistance, and my director even sent me a check to buy my household necessities and gas for my vehicles. The note with it simply stated: "God has blessed me. I want to bless you. Failure is not your destiny. With love, _____."
My heart stopped! I couldn't believe that she was giving me money. My first reaction was to tell her I couldn't accept it, but then I rethought the situation. If she didn't want me to have the money, she wouldn't have sent it. I will pay her back one day, whether she expects me to or not.
Well, I guess my point is... Women who are affiliated with Mary Kay and actually live by Mary Kay Ash's dreams are wonderful women. Yes there are a few rotten seeds here and there, but that is life.
Why is it that people spend so much time and energy complaining? The mood you are in is YOUR choice. Sure, things could happen that could put you in a bad mood, but it is your choice to be in that mood. If we all woke up and made the decision to have a great day despite the obstacles that could happen, there would not be so much negativity and hate in this world.
To those of you who get it, bless you and you are wonderful. To those of you who don't get it, keep looking, you're bound to figure it out one day.
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Apr 26 '07
10:12 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Why Don't They Just Call It "Mary Kay Ponzi Scheme?" (Reply to this comment)
by mz-lowanda
You are very negative with your words.! Why? Why do you feel you have to explain yourself? If you don't like Mary Kay Products so be it. No matter where you go or where you work, what you do or don't do, some body is gonna have something to say should it matter what the next person is thinking no all you need to do is focus and believe in The Lord you and what you do. That's all that matters. People waste a lot of energy doing this. That's the problem with woman today we to busy judging each other and the things we do. You don't know all the facts to Mary Kay so don't be negative towards there organization. It seems to me the words you are putting out you should listen to them for yourself. There's nothing wrong with Mary Kay at all. It's a blessing to alot of woman? I will tell you this My house caught on fire and everything I worked for was gone. All I had was my family, Thank God we could have all died. At 2:00 a.m. I kid you not the next day Mary Kay woman from all over took care of me. I didn't need a thing and I just started in September of 06. I didn't know half of these woman and had never sent them. But they sent me lots of money, thousands of dollars in product, starter kits and clothes I mean expensive clothes and designer clothes. Where else can you get love and support like that anywhere else as far a company goes. It's more to it then you think. You should ask questions you might be surprised by what you hear. Hope you a fabulous day.
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Mar 07 '07
12:27 am PST
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Re: Re: "A" for imagination (Reply to this comment)
by mz-lowanda
First off I would like to say we are the top paid woman in the nation. And we are also the number 1 skin care company in the world. I think you are intimidated by us. We are known for being sharp and positive. Ands from your writing you don't fit that criteria which is why you are not a Mary Kay consultant. And if you don't know what you talking about you need to zip it. Arlene made 13,000,000.00 dollars in Mary Kay and baby I don't know any one who wouldn't want to make that kind of money. And We are not just about money, we are a team designed to help woman achieve a dream life they never had and people who are not financially stable are the ones most of the time that can't make it. You can't blame that on Mary Kay Consultants. It takes money to make money. And it's hard work but you work smart not hard. You should watch what you say and how you judge people you are not God, and Mary Kay ladies don't mess around for no one. That's why were number one. I would tell you off but I am to classy and sharp to stoop to your level. You will respect us. What is your email address? I have no problem with talking to you!! Or are you intimidated by me???
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Mar 07 '07
12:09 am PST
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Have you heard? (Reply to this comment)
by calichoreo
Haven't you ever heard that all publicity is good publicity? Thanks to you, many more people are curious about Mary Kay products and the events.
I just joined for a little extra money...and baby...it just keeps rollin' in!
Maybe if you weren't so negative you could see the positive side of "coin".
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Feb 10 '07
7:31 pm PST
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Re: Re: Here's the Truth (Reply to this comment)
by soccer8s
Are you still interested in becoming a Mary Kay Consultant? If so, please email me or call me - I can give you all the information you need. Thanks!
Steph
soccer8s@yahoo.com
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Oct 28 '05
8:09 pm PDT
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Re: "A" for imagination (Reply to this comment)
by TLCREDD
Correction:
Business owners and executives respect MK the company for making a ton of money off its sales force.
The certainly do not respect any of the consultants or directors who are trolling around looking to frontload inventory on unsuspecting victims.
Get real! MK sells dime store quality products at department store prices. They are always behind the latest trends. And their method of sales (direct sales, MLM, network marketing, dual marketing, or whatever you call it these days) is outdated and ineffective.
www.thepinkingshears.org
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Oct 26 '05
9:35 am PDT
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"A" for imagination (Reply to this comment)
by jlstrout
I've been in Mary Kay for 9 years. I just read Jennifer North's little essay.
She has a very snappy writing style -- excellent use of contempt, cynicism, sarcasm and a biting, acidic, insulting wit. She should definitely consider writing for one of those gossip magazines.
Anyone who thinks they're going to see a "Mary Kay Lady" with a beehive hairdo and neon eyeshadow is just letting us know how out of date her knowledge of the big world is.
You ought to pick up a Forbes Magazine, or Entrepreneur Magazine or Success Magazine ... or Harvard Business Review ... but if you got one of each it would probably cost you at least $15 dollars or more. If you read them regularly or if you talked to business analysts and business brokers, they all know what Mary Kay is all about and they have a lot of respect for the company and the opportunity.
If you knew how much startup money most businesses require, you'd absolutely gag. And, the annual income of an average entrepreneur brings in is below $50,000. (And, that's after investing $100,000 or more into a business opportunity.)
I don't think there'd be many successful Mary Kay directors and consultants if they were running around trying to get customers in neon eyeshadow and teased hair.
Not every Mary Kay consultant or director is perfect ... I'll bet at your regular job, everyone you work with is a shoo-in for the monthly Miss Congeniality award, right? ... but, most Mary Kay directors and consultants I know - in fact all of them -- are very giving people who truly do want the other person to succeed.
In fact, many of them really sacrifice a lot to help the people they recruit become successful. You couldn't do what they do day in and day out just for the money -- you have to really care about people. That's what Mary Kay teaches us.
As far as a "cult" goes ... well, yes, Mary Kay was a brilliant business woman and a wonderful human being. We do spend time learning about what she believed would make you successful.
If you go into the business world, you see a lot of "cults" ... all the great business and financial "gurus" have their followers ... Peter Drucker, Lee Iacoacca (?), Jack Welch ...
But, a more appropriate word would be "culture". And, it is true that Mary Kay purposely wanted to establish a cultural identity for her company -- so that being a part of her company would be a positive and life-affirming experience, not just financially, but emotionally and personally.
Cultures don't apply just to countries: every organized group of people follows either a formal or informal cultural norm.
IBM definitely promoted a corporate culture that was so powerful and distinct that ex-IBMers still attend support groups to deal with the trauma of loss of identity and prestige caused by being terminated from such a "high status" corporation.
Starbucks has distinct corporate culture. Ben and Jerry's ice cream is a famous example of business people whose personalities and value systems were almost more famous than their product.
Then, there is Microsoft, Apple Computer .. I could go on and on. But, every successful company usually has a consciously developed and usually formally stated corporate culture/mission statement based on principles and values and goals.
The unsuccessful companies also have a corporate culture: just think about any company you worked for that you absolutely hated. I bet you could identify exactly the things you hated about that company and most of them were directly traceable to the management's lack of vision and commitment to their employees and probably their customers, too.
Okay, I'm off my soapbox for the day.
Jennifer, dear, do send a writing sample to one of those catty little magazines. You don't even have to know anything about what you're writing about. You'll do great.
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Oct 25 '05
9:29 am PDT
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Re: Here's the Truth (Reply to this comment)
by coolnina
How can I join MaryKay (I, too, am a teenager) I live East of the metro-Atlanta area in Georgia.
As a director, can you help me??
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Oct 06 '05
1:21 pm PDT
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Re: Mary Kay - The Truth (Reply to this comment)
by TLCREDD
corrected link:
www.thepinkingshears.org
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Aug 19 '05
1:32 pm PDT
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Mary Kay - The Truth (Reply to this comment)
by jrichardsmk
If you are considering becoming a Mary Kay consultant, please make sure you are making your own completely educated decision, get BOTH sides of the story. Check out http://www.thepinkingshears.com
Jessie
Mary Kay Independant Beauty Consultant since April '03
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Jul 08 '05
8:48 am PDT
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8 years later and only 1 regret! (Reply to this comment)
by mrswhite
About 1995 or so my cousin's girlfriend had a Mary Kay party and invited me. I really had a good time and I fell in love with the products but never bought anything because at the time I was single with a 2 year old and money was tight. But the thought of doing Mary Kay for a living never crossed my mind. Hey, I just wanted to be able to buy the products I was so taken! Eventually, I was invited to a meeting or awards thing (I cant remember which) and it was there that I knew that I wanted to be a Mary Kay Independent Beauty Consultant. To see these ladies working their businesses and being rewarded for their hard work with something more than a paycheck...it was like they were stars; royalty even. I was very impressed. So I bought my kit that night and signed my agreement. But didn't do a darn thing with it. I had to work 3 jobs to support myself and daughter and just didnt have the time to train or give classes and I moved around alot and eventually lost the whole kit. Well, sitting up one night with my husband talking about my daughter, and how I wanted to start my own business. I told him the story about how I always wanted to do Mary Kay. The next day (during the month of November 2003) I went online to marykay.com, I looked up the personal website for a consultant in my area and I sent her an email telling her I wanted to start my business and asked her how she could help me. I think she called me that day or the next day which was a Tuesday, anyway that evening after her meeting she and her director called me on three way conference call. I was asked those same questions and surprisingly enough instead of the three I got the whole ten. The following Tuesday I went to a meeting and that night, Noember 11, 2003 I signed my agreement again. Because of some family problems my director hasn't been able to train me yet and I havent been able to attend any meetings over these last 3 weeks but I am still so excited about this opportunity. My point is this in a nutshell. For me Mary Kay was a Godsend. It might not be for everyone. The bit about working hard to get that Pink Cadillac? Well, you bust your behind everyday to make someone else rich while you still scrape by, why not work just as hard for yourself and get rich? Last night on one of my many information quests @ marykay.com I mapped out everything I need to do to get my Cadillac. I plan to have one within the next two years (or less)I put that on myself and my kids! And seeing how much fun I'm having my daughter said when she turns 18 she wants to be a Mary Kay "Lady", right now she's like my office assistant and we have grown a lot closer over this month, with her entering "the first change of womanhood" we have had a lot of clashes but now she and I are more like sisters than mother and daughter. If she were old enough I would take her to meetings with me. And when she graduates from high school if she still wants to I'm buying her kit for her. By then I plan to have had many many successes in this industry. But my one single regret about Mary Kay...I wish I had stuck with it 8 years ago.
Mary Kay
Independent Beauty Consultant
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Dec 22 '03
6:50 pm PST
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Re: Hello to all (Reply to this comment)
by mindychristi
I attended a Mary Kay party last night. It was probably about the sixth or seventh Mary Kay event that I have attended in since I was 18. About 7 years ago, I had a friend who sold the products and although I loved them, I was terrified of the idea of trying to go out and sell to people! The idea of being a sales consultant turned me off, but I continued to use the products. Well, for some reason, the meeting that I attended last night sparked something in me and really made me start thinking about selling Mary Kay. I have a wonderful husband, who told me that as long as I did the research and made sure that this was a legitimate company, he would support me 100%.
So I sat down at the computer at 8am today and have been here doing research all day long. I was really hoping that I would find something that would make me discouraged about the prospects. Last year my husband got roped into a MLM company and we lost quite a bit of money on the venture. I did not want to have that happen again!
I was at first very skeptical as I read article after article singing the praises of Mary Kay Ash who turned millions of women into their own bosses with limitless opportunities. The praises were not just coming from people involved in the company who would of course be looking for new recruits. The praises were from Fortune Magazine, Forbes, LTBN and other reputable organizations. Through all my research there was not a disparaging remark to be found. That is, until I came across this website.
At last! Someone with an objective view of the subject! I carefully read the article and thought that I had finally found the hidden reasons for not associate myself with the company. Instead, I found just the opposite.
After reading the responses posted by others on this site, it seems very evident to me that the people who do not believe that MK is a legitimate or well thought out company do not know much about it. Mary Kay Ash was an inspirational woman who presented an opportunity for anyone with $100 and strong work ethic to achieve their dreams. It is very sad to me that the author was objecting to the fact that the women at the gathering were encouraging each other to succeed in their chosen profession. It was the lack of recognition in my last job that was the deciding factor in leaving to seek greener pastures.
I am thankful to all of you for presenting your views on the subject. I don’t think that Mary Kay is for everyone, I think that it is only for those who are willing to take a calculated risk and work hard to be successful in every aspect of their lives.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a Mary Kay Independent Beauty Consultant Form to fill out!
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Nov 14 '03
3:32 pm PST
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Hello to all (Reply to this comment)
by kathy_j_h
I have just started my own Mary Kay business, and I love it. While many people think of Mary Kay as a "cult", I want to tell you I felt the same way. I had heard of all the pushy Mary Kay ladies that used to come knocking at my mother's door when I was younger, peddling their products. But I have to say that every single women that I have met since I started 4 months ago, have been such a fresh air of inspiration and positivity. This business is definitely not for everyone, but the women & men that make a go at it are certain to be successful with a little hard work and determination. I have to say that this has truly been the best thing that has ever happened to me, and I thank God everyday that Mary Kay Ash has provided me with the opportunity to be a stay at home mom, while being financially independent. The gift of time with my family can not be measured in any amount of money.
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Nov 04 '03
5:57 pm PST
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Thank you (Reply to this comment)
by blessed_lady
I've probably annoyed a lot of MK Ladies, but they are the most persistent, defensive and catty group I've ever known. One MKL went after me for MONTHS trying to get me to host a party. I said "no thanks" politely several times. Finally, she pressed me for a reason. She wouldnt' take a polite, "I'm not interested."
I told her that I didn't like the products and didn't need them, that they were over-priced and sold by guilt. I told her that I was a beginning realtor and couldn't afford to buy things I didn't really, really need.
Her response:
"I hope you never try to sell a house to a Mary Kay skin care consultant. Your name will be mud with every MK rep I know in this area."
Geesh. How catty can you get?
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Apr 29 '03
8:02 pm PDT
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Calm down ladies (Reply to this comment)
by ceekay
It surprises me that so many Mary Kay consultants can speak so defensively about their business. This is the reason people call the organization a cult. Whenever someone dislikes the business you loose your minds. If people don't like your products or understand how your meetings work then there's a 99.9% chance that they will not be successful beauty consultants.Forcing people to "love" everything Mary Kay stands for is a waste of time and energy. Your job is to plant the seed, not to make people feel inferior. Keep a professional,pleasant and highly positive attitude and others will follow.
I've been selling Mary Kay for over two years and I've never seen my "sisters" behave this way.
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Mar 29 '03
7:57 pm PST
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Here's the Truth (Reply to this comment)
by mkwendy1
Hi, I am so very sorry over your experience with Mary Kay. I am a Director with Mary Kay and happened upon this site while searching for some jewelry to buy for my Unit. I found this long story about how a Mary Kay Director worked with a consultant in her Unit and it was quite disheartening. I do have my own Success Meetings/Monday Night Meetings and I can tell you that all of what I heard in that story is NOT the norm. Yes, people are imperfect and unfortunately there may be some bad eggs out there and I definitely agree that you should really spend time getting to know the people you may start a business with, but Mary Kay is most certainly not as bad as that email made it sound or it wouldn't be such a thriving business and there wouldn't be so many happy consultant's and Directors.
My Success Meeting does have a minimal charge to help offset expenses. There was quite a bit said about how much money one makes and how much she spends as a consultant. As far as the meeting fee, it is usually $3-4 and $1 less for bringing a summary sheet showing what your activities were the following week and even less if you have a guest to do a facial on. We just want the consultant's to use their time effectively and bringing guests to the meeting to get a facial is using one night a week very wisely. Then she has more time with family later in the week because she can do her facials one night a week at the meeting AND have the help of other consultant's and Directors at that meeting if she's new and needs the help...that's whey we're there.
At our meeting we provide beverages, pizza, cheese n' crackers and meat, fruit and desserts. We give away TONS of prizes for no reason and every week there is something new and exciting. Oh an samples for the guests, we provide those at NO CHARGE at our Success Meetings. Directors usually pay a fee to rent the hotel for that meeting and I can tell you that $3-4 each consultant does not cover the expenses but that's okay because we are there to provide training. At my meeting, all consultant's know that they can give us exactly what they want to be trained on and we will make that our topics. Sorry you didn't get this at your meeting if you asked for it.
Is Inventory to start your business highly recommended?...yes! But can everyone do that? NO! Any business requires something up front so that is where the Starter Kit comes into play. Costs only $100 but has $147.50 of Retail Product to demo and show the customer what they can buy. It also contains $300 of demos...a good deal in my opinion. I started 7 years ago and the kit has gotten better and better but stayed at $100 AND now they include free product. I work with women from all situations and backgrounds. If someone does or doesn't start with inventory will not determine how successful they are. Inventory is a completely personal decision and if a Director tells someone they have to start with it then I would have a flag go up because you don't have to start with it.
I help almost all my consultant's do a New Business Debut and I have sold $200-$1,600 at these debut's. THAT IS HOW THEY GET THEIR INVENTORY! If you start a MK business, you should definitely have a debut! Take 1/2 that money and put it into inventory and the other 1/2 you put in the bank!
MK will always buy products that you purchased within 1 year back at 90% You could be in MK for 10 years and if you send back the products you purchased the previous year they will refund you 90% of what you purchased. This company wants to make sure you don't lose out! Directors may not know that MK does this but they do. MK Corporate is there to help their sales force.
As far as the agreement changing, I have never seen our agreement change. If anything does change it's usually for our benefit. MK Corporate used to pro-rate how much they reimbursed you if you sent products back to them after your first year. It used to drop from 90% to 50-80% and now it's a solid 90% no matter how long you've been in the company. If a sales force member dies, they buy back at 100%
As far as being told to be manipulative or assume a sale and fill out the slip or only answer questions in an interview and not say too much...I have never heard of this. I have always trained consultant's to be completely up front and honest. Again, this is why Mary Kay has done so well. If this is what you were trained, that is horrible and that Director will most likely not last in Mary Kay. We have always been taught to practice the Golden Rule and what bugs me more than anything is people who are liars, cheaters and users and I would NEVER associate myself with those kind of people. This is my Full Time Career and I do love it. I do enjoy the many friendships I have made and I do share with my Mary Kay girlfriends my life challenges and get advice from them.
My conversations with my MK friends are usually 20-45minutes long and we talk about everything. This is what attracted me to this company and again, your experience was quite unique.
About me, I have 230 customers and each week sell at least $300-500 on reorders alone...just checking my voicemails, answering my phone and website sales. I hold appointments and weekly I usually average another $300-400 of New Sales. I have also earned 2 cars and have taken the cash option each time. Currently I get $500 each month for not taking the car and taking the cash. I earned both of the cars without even knowing it because I was just working like I always do and I was notified both times and it took me by surprise. I've earned 2 REAL diamond rings and a Top Director Trip is also in my future.
Mary Kay is NOT for everyone but it is a great company to be involved with. It's not perfect as this is an imperfect world and sometimes it seems people are looking for MK to be perfect. It is QUITE different than a regular J.O.B. and the support system is phenomenal.
Thanks for reading all this and take care!
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Feb 11 '03
9:16 pm PST
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definately not a cult (Reply to this comment)
by gueneverem
Okay, bel3ive me...I'm in college and I'm a consultant. Some people may be a little caught up in the whole Mary Kay thing, but sometimes it's because they have nothing else in life that seems to take their time or attention. In my case, I have a boyfriend, a sorority, and plenty of friends to go out and do stuff with and I do it because it's a way that I can make good money without having to have scheduled hours. In fact I'm about to do a huge fund raiser where I can sell my products, give the organization 20% and still make 30%. And it's all on my time, no one elses time. I decide when and how long. What other jobs let you do that? Number two....i have never in my whole career bought $700 of inventory. That is a myth. You do not have to buy ANYTHING except your starter kit which is $100 or so. It's great because it has samples of foundations and skin care products so that you can conduct facials and have the people try things before they buy. That draws a lot of business in. I really enjoy these products, and I'm not arguing with anyone, I just wanted to let you guys know my experience so that it's a little more even. If you have any questions about my experience of dealing with Mary Kay...then I'll be willing to answer. And ...yea my area director is amazing, she's one of those that makes like 200,000 a year on the product, but she doesn't go nuts. She still focuses on her husband and kids. It's just that she can do this full time, and she loves her job. There's nothing wrong with that! (as long as you don't go nuts ;) )
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Oct 14 '02
6:12 am PDT
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defending the cult. (Reply to this comment)
by kiljoi
holy crap, these people sure get defensive about their Mary Kay experience... from all the comments you've received, I am now convinced this organization has some cultish qualities. If I were you, I'd stay away from the make-up counter for a while. Awesome writing.
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Dec 01 '01
12:52 am PST
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Re: Re: Thank You, Jennifer North! (Reply to this comment)
by jmkw99
First, let me say that I am not by any means going to down Ms. North, but what did you expect? Do you really think that you can start a business with no money? You completely bashed a career that you really know nothing about, ok, you went to ONE meeting and didn't like what you saw. So you came to epinions and decided to get paid for a review, so you said what the heck let me talk badly about the pink cadillacs. Some of the people that responded to your review gave the career a little bit more room to see where it could take them, you went to one meeting.
Now, I don't know who some of the director's are that some of you attended the meetings for, but that doesn't sound like any meeting I have been too. I have been to plenty of meetings, and not one person there said don't say anything discouraging, no one gave me a lesson plan of things to do for a week, and not everyone wears those knock off suits. To be honest I wear jeans and a nice shirt to most of the meetings and my director doesn't say a thing. You don't have to be something you aren't to make a business with Mary Kay. I won't lie, there probably are a couple of stuffed shirts with Mary Kay, but that doesn't mean that you have to come on the internet and talk badly about an woman who made a good company explode into a lot of wonderful opportunities and jobs for a lot of women. I really think that you should have an open mind about what you are going to write about just to get paid, and if you didn't get paid for this then you can ignore what I am getting ready to say, there are always two sides to explore and I don't think you did enough exploring to write about the make-up, let alone a career with the company.
The company is a good company, yes, to make more money fast you can recruit people, but you don't have to. You can keep your customer's and make a lot of money just taking care of them month after month, year after year. No one says you have to move up to stay with the company you just have to do your job, and sell the make-up, and if you want to you can share the opportunity with someone who could use it.
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Nov 27 '01
4:02 pm PST
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