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| mobiprof |
Posted: May 04 '08, 2:47 pm |
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RE: Dead Categories
Quote: nc10 I'd go look at them, but writer's corner and member advice pieces come up blank for me.....
Even if you know the URL? Darn!
Oh well, if not, you can try to follow the links on this page about epinions.com hits, but I'd offer that today, the most interesting about those pieces is that they date from 2000, and that the counting of hits has apparently not become more reliable since :-(
- HitProf
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| KMINER |
Posted: May 04 '08, 6:00 pm |
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Reviews written: 999 Member since: Jan 17 '00
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RE: Dead Categories
Quote: nc10 Product links with a /review/ in the URL tend to kill my interest in writing a review.
Products links with any URL tend to kill my interest in writing a review right now :)
Honestly, except for this challenge I got "roped" into, so far that's the only one I plan to write this month.
Not to sound *down* but I am sort of confused by what I see on my reviews/hits, so until I see some sort of explanation & with this being a super busy month in the life of special education teacher anyway, I think it was a sign not to write this month.
Kimm
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| gamblin_man |
Posted: May 04 '08, 6:11 pm |
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Reviews written: 389 Member since: Apr 08 '01
in Home & Garden |
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RE: Dead Categories
I have been looking over my reviews written in 2008 so far to try to determine what is going on. As has been indicated in this and previous threads there are a lot of site problems that can conspire to make us unhappy in the apparent reception of even our VH reviews.
The first review was on a book. When I put the listing title into Eps search I find the book and the review. When I enter just the one word title of the book I get a lot of hits, but when I isolate to Books it shows as the second listing with the review and rating stars showing. On Google the first link is second on the second page and gets us to the review. The next Google listing is a link to the SdC product listing. There I find a link to my review. The word "review" does not appear in the url of the listing on Eps. I am getting what seems like normal hits and IS for this type of review. Hits from mid-January to end of April are 62/121 and IS through March is $0.78, If all of my reviews were like this one, which was the norm before Black Tuesday, I would be very happy.
The next is in Home and Garden. It shows as cutlery and is a SAP add. It shows It has 46/51 hits since early February and IS is $0.00. It has "review" in the url and is typical of those not getting accurate hits and not getting IS because it is in one of the orphan categories created on Black Tuesday. It also does not add the hits to my overall in H&G.
The next one is in Computer Hardware and is performing like the first one.
The next one is in Tools and Accessories and is mimicking the one in Cutlery. This is one I have factual proof that is not counting hits that it is getting.
The next two, in Books, have review in the url. They can not be found any way I have tried, using the Eps search engine. They can not be moved to another listing (there are three) using the Move function. They are showing no outside hits. They don't appear on the first ten pages of Google, I assume because they are not getting any page hits.
The next one, a Book, is like the first one, but is getting few outside hits, probably because it is an old novel.
The final one, in Restaurants and Gourmet, does not have "review" in the url. It can not be found with Epinions search and is on page eleven on Google. I don't expect it to do well, either.
This is typical of my entire inventory of reviews. Since nearly two-thirds of them have "review" in the url, I am down to less than a fourth of daily hits compared to October last year. My IS is well below equivalent months last year. My MPA position is falling because the few hits that are being recorded are not being counted in H&G. what about this would motivate me to write more reviews?
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| pablothegreat |
Posted: May 04 '08, 6:30 pm |
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Reviews written: 919 Member since: Dec 05 '07
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RE: Dead Categories
Toys....I can't imagine some of them NOT getting hits but none are. NONE! All have /review in the links. Ok I lied one has made 1 penny and had 3 outside hits I think. But that is it! This includes the BOOKS that come up under toys!
Quote: gamblin_man I have been looking over my reviews written in 2008 so far to try to determine what is going on. As has been indicated in this and previous threads there are a lot of site problems that can conspire to make us unhappy in the apparent reception of even our VH reviews.
The first review was on a book. When I put the listing title into Eps search I find the book and the review. When I enter just the one word title of the book I get a lot of hits, but when I isolate to Books it shows as the second listing with the review and rating stars showing. On Google the first link is second on the second page and gets us to the review. The next Google listing is a link to the SdC product listing. There I find a link to my review. The word "review" does not appear in the url of the listing on Eps. I am getting what seems like normal hits and IS for this type of review. Hits from mid-January to end of April are 62/121 and IS through March is $0.78, If all of my reviews were like this one, which was the norm before Black Tuesday, I would be very happy.
The next is in Home and Garden. It shows as cutlery and is a SAP add. It shows It has 46/51 hits since early February and IS is $0.00. It has "review" in the url and is typical of those not getting accurate hits and not getting IS because it is in one of the orphan categories created on Black Tuesday. It also does not add the hits to my overall in H&G.
The next one is in Computer Hardware and is performing like the first one.
The next one is in Tools and Accessories and is mimicking the one in Cutlery. This is one I have factual proof that is not counting hits that it is getting.
The next two, in Books, have review in the url. They can not be found any way I have tried, using the Eps search engine. They can not be moved to another listing (there are three) using the Move function. They are showing no outside hits. They don't appear on the first ten pages of Google, I assume because they are not getting any page hits.
The next one, a Book, is like the first one, but is getting few outside hits, probably because it is an old novel.
The final one, in Restaurants and Gourmet, does not have "review" in the url. It can not be found with Epinions search and is on page eleven on Google. I don't expect it to do well, either.
This is typical of my entire inventory of reviews. Since nearly two-thirds of them have "review" in the url, I am down to less than a fourth of daily hits compared to October last year. My IS is well below equivalent months last year. My MPA position is falling because the few hits that are being recorded are not being counted in H&G. what about this would motivate me to write more reviews?
Larry
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| jps246 |
Posted: May 04 '08, 7:06 pm |
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Reviews written: 846 Member since: Jan 25 '01
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RE: Dead Categories
Quote: trailhound Categories that seem dead to me: Pets, Office Supplies, Food, non-Chain Restaurants, some Sports reviews :(
throw is some cell phones too...
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| kristinafh |
Posted: May 04 '08, 11:38 pm |
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Reviews written: 1344 Member since: Dec 17 '99
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I envision...
this gi-normous file somewhere, filled with the numbers for the outside hits and one day - everything will magically get updated. Cause to think that they aren't even tracking these hits - well - devastating.
Kristina, who goes back to hiding in her hole. |
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| jps246 |
Posted: May 05 '08, 5:19 am |
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Reviews written: 846 Member since: Jan 25 '01
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RE: I envision...
Quote: kristinafh this gi-normous file somewhere, filled with the numbers for the outside hits and one day - everything will magically get updated. Cause to think that they aren't even tracking these hits - well - devastating.
Kristina, who goes back to hiding in her hole.
I share much the same view (at least that's what I hope!), but while I'm positive about the hits eventually being resolved, I will miss all the potential IS that we're losing by not having anything tracked.
Jeff
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| rudixeno |
Posted: May 05 '08, 5:52 am |
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Reviews written: 191 Member since: Nov 14 '05
in Home & Garden |
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RE: Dead Categories
Quote: gamblin_man
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This is typical of my entire inventory of reviews. Since nearly two-thirds of them have "review" in the url, I am down to less than a fourth of daily hits compared to October last year. My IS is well below equivalent months last year. My MPA position is falling because the few hits that are being recorded are not being counted in H&G. what about this would motivate me to write more reviews?
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Larry
This so accurately describes my attitude these days. I am finding that I'm inspired to write only enough to maintain my hats. Isn't that sad?
And the 10-4-10/20? In my more cynical moments I see this promotion as a diversionary tactic. Something to take our minds off all that is wrong these days.
Sure, I can bang out reviews, but I still find myself spending at least an hour writing a review. If no one on the outside reads it I'm going to make $2/hour (at best)for my critical analysis and writing. Somehow, I find it hard not to be offended.
Looking at the "just ins", I see reviews on Baby Ruth candy bars and Cheerios. Now I may be atypical, but I've never really felt the need to seek review advice on such items. Have you?
It might be easy to take this post as a knock of Epinions. It's not. Epinions is not merely a system, but a community of the most talented critical writers on the Internet and a vast library of excellent reviews. These are the two most valuable assets of the site.
The system that supports these assets are the "mechanics" of the site. And, no matter what shade of rose the glasses you're wearing these days are, it's hard not to feel that the mechanics are failing us miserably.
Is there anyone out there that can tell me they don't really feel the same?
Rudi
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| pilarzmom |
Posted: May 05 '08, 7:52 am (Updated: May 05 '08, 7:57 am) |
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Reviews written: 771 Member since: Jan 18 '03
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RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category
Quote: ifif1938 and the entire old category, Destinations can't be found...at least by me...
But my travel reviews are getting outside hits, perhaps due to not having /review in the url. Some are even showing up in google searches without me keying in Epinions. That's good news in my book.
As Stacey says, Beauty does feel like a dying category. |
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| ifif1938 |
Posted: May 05 '08, 9:00 am |
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Reviews written: 799 Member since: Jan 17 '00
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RE: Dead Categories
Quote: rudixeno This so accurately describes my attitude these days. I am finding that I'm inspired to write only enough to maintain my hats. Isn't that sad?
to tell you the truth that has crossed my mind
And the 10-4-10/20? In my more cynical moments I see this promotion as a diversionary tactic. Something to take our minds off all that is wrong these days.
Rudy, I have felt that often and shake it off but still, I sometimes feel we are like lemmings, going for the $2 and writing about anything, hence cheerios or cookies to try to forget about the big issues that still haven't been addressed, has anyone noticed there haven't been any comments by Brisbane lately. My hits have dropped off as much as anyone else and I lost my #10 spot in travel this month, oh one more thing, I wonder why my MPR number stayed the same as last month..guess that is another number not being counted
Looking at the "just ins", I see reviews on Baby Ruth candy bars and Cheerios. Now I may be atypical, but I've never really felt the need to seek review advice on such items. Have you?
NO, but now I'm writing them for the ease of doing so and the fun of writing about candy...do I think anyone comes on the site to research buying such a food item?...another big NO! But I still like the challange of a movie, restaurant or travel review
It might be easy to take this post as a knock of Epinions. It's not. Epinions is not merely a system, but a community of the most talented critical writers on the Internet and a vast library of excellent reviews. These are the two most valuable assets of the site.
I hope we are not the only ones who think so
The system that supports these assets are the "mechanics" of the site. And, no matter what shade of rose the glasses you're wearing these days are, it's hard not to feel that the mechanics are failing us miserably.
Thats the saddest and most infuriating part
Is there anyone out there that can tell me they don't really feel the same?
I feel that way yes, but there are some who just don't care about these things, all they want is the money the promotions are providing....once the 10 4 10 is over I just know there will be quite a few people who will disappear..
Rudi
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| pablothegreat |
Posted: May 05 '08, 10:41 am |
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Reviews written: 919 Member since: Dec 05 '07
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RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category
The travel reviews I did have gotten hits too even ones I didn't suspect would being in such a far away in a cornfield place! BUT the kinds of hits you guys are speaking of (hundreds), I have never seen. I am happy with 50 hits a month on anything!
Quote: pilarzmom But my travel reviews are getting outside hits, perhaps due to not having /review in the url. Some are even showing up in google searches without me keying in Epinions. That's good news in my book.
As Stacey says, Beauty does feel like a dying category.
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| pablothegreat |
Posted: May 05 '08, 10:43 am |
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Reviews written: 919 Member since: Dec 05 '07
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RE: Dead Categories
I tried to do new candies on the market or slightly unusual ones that I have tried....there are many people who do order online now and get their groceries dropped off...what is that site? peapod? I don't know.
Quote: rudixeno This so accurately describes my attitude these days. I am finding that I'm inspired to write only enough to maintain my hats. Isn't that sad?
And the 10-4-10/20? In my more cynical moments I see this promotion as a diversionary tactic. Something to take our minds off all that is wrong these days.
Sure, I can bang out reviews, but I still find myself spending at least an hour writing a review. If no one on the outside reads it I'm going to make $2/hour (at best)for my critical analysis and writing. Somehow, I find it hard not to be offended.
Looking at the "just ins", I see reviews on Baby Ruth candy bars and Cheerios. Now I may be atypical, but I've never really felt the need to seek review advice on such items. Have you?
It might be easy to take this post as a knock of Epinions. It's not. Epinions is not merely a system, but a community of the most talented critical writers on the Internet and a vast library of excellent reviews. These are the two most valuable assets of the site.
The system that supports these assets are the "mechanics" of the site. And, no matter what shade of rose the glasses you're wearing these days are, it's hard not to feel that the mechanics are failing us miserably.
Is there anyone out there that can tell me they don't really feel the same?
Rudi
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| jps246 |
Posted: May 05 '08, 10:45 am |
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Reviews written: 846 Member since: Jan 25 '01
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RE: Dead Categories
Quote: rudixeno Is there anyone out there that can tell me they don't really feel the same?
I think a lot of us feel that way. I've tried to stay positive but it's hard as month after month goes by and these things don't seem to be getting any better.
Jeff
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| pilarzmom |
Posted: May 05 '08, 11:18 am (Updated: May 05 '08, 5:48 pm) |
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Reviews written: 771 Member since: Jan 18 '03
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RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category
Quote: pablothegreat . I am happy with 50 hits a month on anything!
That's the problem. I can count on one hand the reviews I have done since November that have accumulated even that amount. |
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| gatorgirlie |
Posted: May 05 '08, 11:26 am |
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Reviews written: 248 Member since: Mar 07 '03
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This is a large reason why I'm not wasting my time writing reviews anymore.
My old reviews are pretty much dead. Reviews that used to get 210 outside hits a month are barely averaging 30. Reviews that would get 40 are down to a couple and it's been this way since October. It's amazing to look at the consistent numbers for a year, then watch them drop like a rock in one month.
I might write some just to make the $20 for 10 reviews but it is a systemic problem that needs to be addressed or Epinions' will lose out big time in the long run. |
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| trailhound |
Posted: May 05 '08, 11:43 am |
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Reviews written: 651 Member since: May 21 '04
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RE: Dead Categories
Quote: jps246 month after month goes by and these things don't seem to be getting any better. Jeff
Or in some cases getting worse. I have a tent review that used to get 10 outside hits/day this time of year. This April I had a total of 44 outside hits for the whole month, compared to almost 400 a year ago. No outside hits so far this May, which is usually another huge month :( -Dave |
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| ifif1938 |
Posted: May 05 '08, 11:45 am |
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Reviews written: 799 Member since: Jan 17 '00
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RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category
Quote: pilarzmom But my travel reviews are getting outside hits, perhaps due to not having /review in the url. Some are even showing up in google searches without me keying in Epinions. That's good news in my book.
As Stacey says, Beauty does feel like a dying category.
My older travel reviews seem to be picking up some hits on the destinations that are popular now that summer is coming. Disney World reviews just are so-so, which surprises me, but some of the European reviews are dead, reviews that used to get tons of outside hits and I know they have good placement on the site and even on google they show up.
Cruises seem to still get hits but only sporatically and one of my cruise reviews was my highest earner at one time..
forget about those food reviews, as far as I'm concerned they are only good for the 10 4 10 and I have a good number of hits on them, not outside hits ofcourse...hopefully that will prove to be wrong one day and the big black zeros will disappear and be replaced by a number...:)
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| ifif1938 |
Posted: May 05 '08, 11:46 am |
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Reviews written: 799 Member since: Jan 17 '00
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RE: Dead Categories
Quote: pablothegreat I tried to do new candies on the market or slightly unusual ones that I have tried....there are many people who do order online now and get their groceries dropped off...what is that site? peapod? I don't know.
I think that is really hopeful thinking, but you never know |
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| lyoness913 |
Posted: May 05 '08, 12:14 pm |
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Reviews written: 523 Member since: May 17 '02
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RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category
I am so frustrated with beauty/wellness.. I went from almost 500 to not even in the top 1000. Now I am in the top 1000 at like, 929 and some of my diet reviews are in the top 20-30. Not only that, I don't know if SAP is working because I've asked for several new products weeks ago and I never got any response. Usually I get one in a couple of days max.
10-4-20 is making up for this somehow.. I guess.
But, I am still really frustrated. Will this ever get fixed? |
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| pablothegreat |
Posted: May 05 '08, 1:11 pm |
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Reviews written: 919 Member since: Dec 05 '07
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RE: Dead Categories
Hmmm maybe if peapod or whatever that service is called was linked to epinions as a shopping portal...it would make a difference. I know that service is not available in all areas but the areas where they are located have huge populations!
Quote: ifif1938 I think that is really hopeful thinking, but you never know
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