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cmuir Posted: May 05 '08,  1:13 pm           
Reviews written: 512
Member since: Jan 31 '00
Post: 183832
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: lyoness913
I am so frustrated with beauty/wellness.. I went from almost 500 to not even in the top 1000. Now I am in the top 1000 at like, 929 and some of my diet reviews are in the top 20-30. Not only that, I don't know if SAP is working because I've asked for several new products weeks ago and I never got any response. Usually I get one in a couple of days max.

10-4-20 is making up for this somehow.. I guess.

But, I am still really frustrated. Will this ever get fixed?


I have an SAP in there from just shortly after Valentines Day!!

Cindi
   
ifif1938 Posted: May 05 '08,  1:33 pm           
Reviews written: 799
Member since: Jan 17 '00
Post: 183838
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Out of curiosity I just peeked at my public profile page to see if my Angel perfume review was still listed as one of my top ten reviews..its gone, completely gone...It's been listed for a few years now.....hmmm, all you gals who write in beauty, now I understand your frustrations ...

I wonder why nobody from epinions has written a message on the board to update any progress..

   
shantel575 Posted: May 05 '08,  1:52 pm           
Reviews written: 318
Member since: Jun 28 '00
Post: 183839
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

RE: SAP's... it is finally working again, keeping in mind that a huge backlog was created due to the downtime and all the contest frenzy over the last several months. The process also changed for us so we are still figuring it all out as well. I also have a lot of older SAPs due to the wait time we previously experienced for brands to be added. We don't have to do that any longer but, all the ones that were waiting are also in the mix of the pile up from the downtime. Obviously this means my inbox folder of SAPs is quite large.... my goal is to soon have it empty!

Melissa and I really try to get them out as quickly as we can but both of us also went from being home full time to working full time. So that will obviously have an effect on our previously lightening-fast turnaround time. It's a good thing SAP's are not a required duty for CL's :) We will get them out as soon as we can.

As for the other issues (fluctuating stats, reviews not showing up, etc).... those are questions I don't have an answer for so I hope bug reports are being filed when these problems come up!

Shantel :)

   
jps246 Posted: May 05 '08,  2:12 pm (Updated: May 05 '08,  3:49 pm)           
Reviews written: 849
Member since: Jan 25 '01
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Post: 183840
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: shantel575
As for the other issues (fluctuating stats, reviews not showing up, etc).... those are questions I don't have an answer for so I hope bug reports are being filed when these problems come up!


I'm not knocking the advice, but I filed a few at first, then pretty much gave up when I discovered most of my reviews since October are in the same boat and that any reviews in the dead categories are up the creek without a paddle so to speak.

I think it's pretty clear that a significant number of reviews are simply not recording any traffic data even though there are ample demonstrations that there is traffic.

Jeff
   
moonsista Posted: May 05 '08,  6:40 pm           
Reviews written: 949
Member since: Jun 20 '02
moderator in Wellness & Beauty
Post: 183854
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: shantel575
RE: SAP's... it is finally working again, keeping in mind that a huge backlog was created due to the downtime and all the contest frenzy over the last several months. The process also changed for us so we are still figuring it all out as well. I also have a lot of older SAPs due to the wait time we previously experienced for brands to be added. We don't have to do that any longer but, all the ones that were waiting are also in the mix of the pile up from the downtime. Obviously this means my inbox folder of SAPs is quite large.... my goal is to soon have it empty!

Melissa and I really try to get them out as quickly as we can but both of us also went from being home full time to working full time. So that will obviously have an effect on our previously lightening-fast turnaround time. It's a good thing SAP's are not a required duty for CL's :) We will get them out as soon as we can.

As for the other issues (fluctuating stats, reviews not showing up, etc).... those are questions I don't have an answer for so I hope bug reports are being filed when these problems come up!

Shantel :)


I appreciate the input, Shantel! I wish that you were being kept informed more on what is going on.

The SAP's are the least of our worries at this point. I wondered if the SAP was working for the Beauty category - I had the idea that if it *wasn't*, then we were on our way out. It sounds like it IS working, so apparently we aren't on our way out, LOL.

Thanks again!
   
shantel575 Posted: May 05 '08,  8:17 pm           
Reviews written: 318
Member since: Jun 28 '00
Post: 183866
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: moonsista
I appreciate the input, Shantel! I wish that you were being kept informed more on what is going on.

The SAP's are the least of our worries at this point. I wondered if the SAP was working for the Beauty category - I had the idea that if it *wasn't*, then we were on our way out. It sounds like it IS working, so apparently we aren't on our way out, LOL.

Thanks again!


lol, no I dont think anything Beauty is on the "way out" :) I think alot of the issues/bugs are stemming from the merge between the 2 categories so hopefully they are aware of and working on it! I still recommend submitting bug reports anytime you (or anyone) sees something that is wacky.
   
alexdg1 Posted: May 06 '08,  10:15 am           
Reviews written: 1276
Member since: Dec 12 '03
Post: 183916
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Although I'd be lying horribly if I said I never choose my review topics with no consideration of how many outside hits I get, I tend to write about whatever it is I write about more or less randomly. The only exception is when I actually buy something new and want to write about it right away or if, for instance, something that I already have coincides with the release of something new, like a new Indiana Jones or Star Trek movie.

That having been said, I am extremely disappointed by my hits counts on reviews that I wrote recently without purposely thinking, Aha! This review is bound to get a zillion hits but nevertheless figured they'd get some traction because they are about popular products. One in particular has that "review" word tacked on to the URL and is getting no outside hits. More worrisome, in the product listing where it says how many Eps reviews have been written the figure is given as 17, yet if I click on Read Reviews, only four writers' Epinions show up. Four. And yes, they all have the /review/ bit embedded in the tagline.

I'm also not getting any outside hits on K&F reviews. True, that's not a category where I have any hat whatsoever, but it is one of my favorite places to write in, and while I'll continue writing reviews there, I'm beginning to think that it's rather a pointless exercise, since all I'm earning there is the one-time-only $10-4-10 bonus.

   
trailhound Posted: May 06 '08,  11:06 am           
Reviews written: 655
Member since: May 21 '04
Post: 183924
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: alexdg1
I'm beginning to think that it's rather a pointless exercise, since all I'm earning there is the one-time-only $10-4-10 bonus.


I know what you mean. I look down my page and 7 out of 8 recent reviews have no outside hits. In the ''Olden Days'' it was rare for any review to go without outside hits for more than a week or so. -Dave
   
ladyconsumer Posted: May 06 '08,  11:28 am           
Reviews written: 634
Member since: Jul 11 '05
Post: 183928
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: alexdg1
I'm beginning to think that it's rather a pointless exercise, since all I'm earning there is the one-time-only $10-4-10 bonus.


Yup. That's my feeling on my pet reviews, some of my movie reviews, a few of my restaurant reviews... you get the idea.


I only hope that the /review bug will be fixed at some point. I even hope that the "lost" hits and IS will eventually be given to us. (But I think that's a way optimistic hope).

   
carstairs38 Posted: May 06 '08,  12:13 pm           
Reviews written: 1205
Member since: Oct 03 '05
Post: 183933
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

I just keep telling myself that when it is fixed I will have a huge potential to gain outside hits whether the "lost" hits are factored back in or not.

Down the Road Mark

   
alexdg1 Posted: May 06 '08,  12:42 pm           
Reviews written: 1276
Member since: Dec 12 '03
Post: 183935
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: ladyconsumer
Yup. That's my feeling on my pet reviews, some of my movie reviews, a few of my restaurant reviews... you get the idea.


I only hope that the /review bug will be fixed at some point. I even hope that the "lost" hits and IS will eventually be given to us. (But I think that's a way optimistic hope).


I sort of accept the negligible to nonexistent outside hits in reviews about 10-year-old collectibles that are not in great demand. I write those reviews not really with tons of IS in mind since K&F has never been a reliable source of residuals.

What worries me is that some of the affected reviews are in categories that have normally been consistent in IS inflow, and now - even in a title which I thought would be getting some outside hits - it's almost like the /review/ thing makes them "flatliners."
   
rudixeno Posted: May 06 '08,  2:27 pm           
Reviews written: 195
Member since: Nov 14 '05
moderator in Home & Garden
Post: 183947
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: alexdg1
I sort of accept the negligible to nonexistent outside hits in reviews about 10-year-old collectibles that are not in great demand. I write those reviews not really with tons of IS in mind since K&F has never been a reliable source of residuals.

What worries me is that some of the affected reviews are in categories that have normally been consistent in IS inflow, and now - even in a title which I thought would be getting some outside hits - it's almost like the /review/ thing makes them "flatliners."


I have reviews that have gone from 1,000-3,000 hits one month to being a total flatliner the next month. Has the review outlived its usefulness? Of course not! The system is broken. I will no longer write a review on an item if /review/ appears in the URL.

Rudi
   
pablothegreat Posted: May 06 '08,  2:56 pm           
Reviews written: 919
Member since: Dec 05 '07
Post: 183949
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

But........if your review got that many hits one month, it IS being seen by the world. Did it have the /review in it then too?

Quote: rudixeno
I have reviews that have gone from 1,000-3,000 hits one month to being a total flatliner the next month. Has the review outlived its usefulness? Of course not! The system is broken. I will no longer write a review on an item if /review/ appears in the URL.

Rudi

   
ifif1938 Posted: May 06 '08,  3:02 pm (Updated: May 06 '08,  3:05 pm)           
Reviews written: 799
Member since: Jan 17 '00
Post: 183950
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: rudixeno
I have reviews that have gone from 1,000-3,000 hits one month to being a total flatliner the next month. Has the review outlived its usefulness? Of course not! The system is broken. I will no longer write a review on an item if /review/ appears in the URL.

Rudi



I'm starting to feel the same way. I now know anything I write in that food category will be that way but what's upsetting me is movies which have always had good outside hits for me and now are not...I found I had posted a movie review on DVD and it had the nasty word "review" in the Url, so I moved it to "In theaters" and voila, that nasty word wasn't there...Now I am watching to see if it makes any difference when the new IS is out. it also seems that all the saps I asked for have "review" in the url..

But these reviews will pay that $2.00 and in some categories that is more than it would have earned in years...like travel!!!

So I'm not making that statement... yet...even though I have had thought about it.
   
lyoness913 Posted: May 06 '08,  7:29 pm           
Reviews written: 526
Member since: May 17 '02
Post: 184000
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: ifif1938
I'm starting to feel the same way. I now know anything I write in that food category will be that way but what's upsetting me is movies which have always had good outside hits for me and now are not...I found I had posted a movie review on DVD and it had the nasty word "review" in the Url, so I moved it to "In theaters" and voila, that nasty word wasn't there...Now I am watching to see if it makes any difference when the new IS is out. it also seems that all the saps I asked for have "review" in the url..

But these reviews will pay that $2.00 and in some categories that is more than it would have earned in years...like travel!!!

So I'm not making that statement... yet...even though I have had thought about it.


Barb,
You are such a nice person. I AM making that statement ;) And, I am normally a nice person, and I am really sorry to see GG and Andy go, but Epinions is paying 10 for $20 and that's what I am focusing on.
Summer
   
ifif1938 Posted: May 06 '08,  8:51 pm           
Reviews written: 799
Member since: Jan 17 '00
Post: 184011
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: lyoness913
Barb,
You are such a nice person. I AM making that statement ;) And, I am normally a nice person, and I am really sorry to see GG and Andy go, but Epinions is paying 10 for $20 and that's what I am focusing on.
Summer



Thanks so much Summer..I can't believe it, I left the computer for 3 hours to watch TV and found Andy's announcement when I logged back on...This really does give me an awful sinking feeling, first GG and now Andy, this can't bode well for Epinions and in general for all of us...

seems to me your focus is right on the money!
   
alexdg1 Posted: May 06 '08,  9:08 pm           
Reviews written: 1276
Member since: Dec 12 '03
Post: 184015
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: rudixeno
I have reviews that have gone from 1,000-3,000 hits one month to being a total flatliner the next month. Has the review outlived its usefulness? Of course not! The system is broken. I will no longer write a review on an item if /review/ appears in the URL.

Rudi


Rudi,

I wonder who thought up the /review/ thing for the URLs. I still stand by my Oh, well, that's life statement about my K&F reviews. I've earned some IS but not always consistently.

Movies and Books, though...they aren't registering as many outside hits as they normally do. And I know I've sent e-mails out promoting my reviews to a few friends, and they've been read/looked at....so....
   
millinocket Posted: May 06 '08,  9:34 pm           
Reviews written: 486
Member since: Aug 24 '02
Post: 184018
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Movie folks -

If you have a review that has the /review/ tag in it and know that there are others of the same movie that do not, send me an email. There may be a way we can move them. It depends entirely on the title and the hoops seem to be a little different for each one, but I was able to successfully move four reviews away from the /review/ listing and onto the one without the tag and three of the four have begun counting outside hits. Not impressive hits, but more than zero.

Of course this only works if such a listing exists, but I'm happy to help anyone that wants to try.

Sue

   
KMINER Posted: Jun 25 '08,  8:47 am           
Reviews written: 1005
Member since: Jan 17 '00
moderator in Kids & Family
Post: 191049
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

With all the "fixes" does anyone have an answer to why our Beauty and Wellness MH's are not making it to the front page?

Thanks :) Kimm

   
jps246 Posted: Jun 25 '08,  8:59 am           
Reviews written: 849
Member since: Jan 25 '01
moderator in Outdoor Gear, Sporting Goods
Post: 191051
RE: The Beauty/Wellness Category

Quote: KMINER
With all the "fixes" does anyone have an answer to why our Beauty and Wellness MH's are not making it to the front page?

I don't think Sports & Outdoors is making it either :(

While rankings seem to be back in the formerly dead categories, it doesn't seem like anything else has been done to them - aka there's no actual counting of hits going on yet. Plus it seems that the advisor rates, even though there is a bubble, are all over (they aren't kept at the top of rates), so maybe because of that, the front page can't find any MH reviews?

Someday it'll all work...

Jeff
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