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jenniferkateab Posted: May 18 '08,  8:54 am           
Reviews written: 191
Member since: Oct 22 '07
Post: 185828
RE: Basically Content...

I agree with NT. I'm basically happy here ~ most days, I'm getting between 50 - 100 hits (and that's only with 86 reviews to my credit). So, people ARE reading my reviews. Maybe not ALL of them, but I feel like my writing is making a difference somehow.

I'm also getting a decent check each month, which is greatly appreciated. I like the community, too. And, I don't feel like Epinions is circling the drain. I have voiced certain concerns about "bugs" via email and gotten responses from several employees. I do feel they care.

Any company who has recently lost staff members is probably feeling a crunch. But, a month has not gone by without Eps fulfilling their monetary obligations to their members and keeping their promises (10-4-10, IS, advisor payments, etc.)

So, eat, drink and be merry ~ and critique the experience when you're done!

No sky falling here :)

Jennifer

   
jps246 Posted: May 18 '08,  2:27 pm           
Reviews written: 848
Member since: Jan 25 '01
moderator in Outdoor Gear, Sporting Goods
Post: 185871
RE: Basically Content...

Quote: jenniferkateab
I'm getting between 50 - 100 hits (and that's only with 86 reviews to my credit). So, people ARE reading my reviews. Maybe not ALL of them, but I feel like my writing is making a difference somehow.


There are members who are probably losing hundreds of hits per day due to these problems. Multiply those missing daily hits by a month...then think about all the potential IS that is going up in smoke since nothing is being counted. For some members that can be a big deal. I personally like my IS and I don't think it's fair that I'm missing out on that potential, but it's not going to kill me.

What bothers me more is that the problems seem to be getting worse, hits have been down for months on any of the /review/ reviews but now for May, most of them are showing 0 hits and here we are halfway through the month. So are all those reviews basically dead now?

Jeff


   
AliventiAsylum Posted: May 18 '08,  5:47 pm           
Reviews written: 2083
Member since: Aug 11 '00
Post: 185896
RE: Basically Content...

I would say my hits are down at least 50% due to this error. I think the problem is twofold - I think the reviews are nearly impossible to find and then when people are finding them, the hits aren't getting recorded. So people are viewing the reviews (and possibly making purchase decisions) and we aren't getting credit for it.

That sucks, but I know there's nothing I can do. With the economy the way it is, I try to look on the bright side about it. I am making pretty good money every month off of the reviews that are earning IS and the promotional money is good too.

I do get discouraged from time to time. It bugged me when the month IS was wrong they rolled it back, and there was a statement made to the effect that some people were getting more and it was coming out of the pockets of others. It feels like that's sort of what might be happening with this, but all categories are not equal.

   
popsrocks Posted: May 18 '08,  7:17 pm           
Reviews written: 2173
Member since: Aug 25 '02
moderator in Gourmet, Restaurants
Post: 185901
So are all those reviews basically dead now?

Quote: jps246

What bothers me more is that the problems seem to be getting worse, hits have been down for months on any of the /review/ reviews but now for May, most of them are showing 0 hits and here we are halfway through the month. So are all those reviews basically dead now?

Jeff


Though there's acknowledgement from management of many issues being worked on, I believe this a reasonable question, pertaining specifically to the /review/ in URLs, many of us would like to hear an answer to.

I'm sure many of us are wondering...

...Why do some posted reviews have them, other reviews not? Why in some categories and not in others? Is there hope that these reviews will someday show movement? If so, would they show past views? Is there hope they will one day give us IS? Are these reviews that will only give us "upfront money" while the promotion goes on and NEVER pay IS?

pops

noting that the bold was added to Jeff's question by pops
   
three_ster Posted: May 18 '08,  7:36 pm           
Reviews written: 1696
Member since: Jun 26 '00
Post: 185902
RE: Basically Content...

Quote: jps246
There are members who are probably losing hundreds of hits per day due to these problems.

Jeff


hundreds.... or thousands.
   
ifif1938 Posted: May 18 '08,  8:08 pm           
Reviews written: 799
Member since: Jan 17 '00
Post: 185908
RE: So are all those reviews basically dead now?

Quote: popsrocks
Though there's acknowledgement from management of many issues being worked on, I believe this a reasonable question, pertaining specifically to the /review/ in URLs, many of us would like to hear an answer to.

I'm sure many of us are wondering...

...Why do some posted reviews have them, other reviews not? Why in some categories and not in others? Is there hope that these reviews will someday show movement? If so, would they show past views? Is there hope they will one day give us IS? Are these reviews that will only give us "upfront money" while the promotion goes on and NEVER pay IS?

pops

noting that the bold was added to Jeff's question by pops


YES, those questions are in my mind as well.. I also wonder if that's going to be the future of Epinions, hopefully there will be a future!
   
popsrocks Posted: May 18 '08,  8:17 pm           
Reviews written: 2173
Member since: Aug 25 '02
moderator in Gourmet, Restaurants
Post: 185910
RE: So are all those reviews basically dead now?

Quote: ifif1938
YES, those questions are in my mind as well.. I also wonder if that's going to be the future of Epinions, hopefully there will be a future!


Though I have questions I don't have any feelings at all about the demise of Epinions.

The site is going through changes to try and match it up as best can be with parent companies. Things will change, but I'm thinking very positively. At the same time, there are some things I would like to be aware of if possible.

pops
   
phungus Posted: May 18 '08,  9:15 pm           
Reviews written: 2307
Member since: Aug 31 '99
Post: 185915
RE: Basically Content...

Quote: jps246
There are members who are probably losing hundreds of hits per day due to these problems. Multiply those missing daily hits by a month...then think about all the potential IS that is going up in smoke since nothing is being counted. For some members that can be a big deal. I personally like my IS and I don't think it's fair that I'm missing out on that potential, but it's not going to kill me.

What bothers me more is that the problems seem to be getting worse, hits have been down for months on any of the /review/ reviews but now for May, most of them are showing 0 hits and here we are halfway through the month. So are all those reviews basically dead now?

Jeff


Mobiprof needs to figure out a way to tell beforehand whether or not the review will be a /review/, then we can just avoid posting it!
   
abhaille Posted: May 18 '08,  9:36 pm           
Reviews written: 223
Member since: Dec 12 '99
Post: 185917
/review/

I checked on all my May postings and two of them have the dreaded /review/ in them.

Have I missed the thread where there is an explanation WHY these reviews don't get an income share?

Susan

   
popsrocks Posted: May 18 '08,  9:47 pm           
Reviews written: 2173
Member since: Aug 25 '02
moderator in Gourmet, Restaurants
Post: 185918
RE: Basically Content...

Quote: phungus
Mobiprof needs to figure out a way to tell beforehand whether or not the review will be a /review/, then we can just avoid posting it!


Just start the review, you can even dummy words. Then go back to the review in unpublished content. Check out the URL. See if it is the old faithful that was the same for all our good reviews of the past or if it's the one that is extended with the /review/ in it.

What I want to learn is whether one of those /review/ posts will pick up views and IS in the future.

pops
   
popsrocks Posted: May 18 '08,  9:49 pm           
Reviews written: 2173
Member since: Aug 25 '02
moderator in Gourmet, Restaurants
Post: 185919
RE: /review/

Quote: abhaille
I checked on all my May postings and two of them have the dreaded /review/ in them.

Have I missed the thread where there is an explanation WHY these reviews don't get an income share?

Susan


If I missed it, I'm feeling foolish for asking all these questions now.

pops
   
jeavinl Posted: May 19 '08,  7:08 am           
Reviews written: 658
Member since: Aug 13 '02
Post: 185944
RE: /review/

Not exactly sure since I only pop in on the message boards every once in a while, but I think I remember reading something about two different servers and that only some of the migrated content is searchable and getting hits. Don't quote me since it's probably just me paraphrasing somebody's hypothesis.

But to address the original post, I don't think Epinions is going away. It's a site that survived some rocky Internet times and is still very viable and productive. To me, it's the best all-around review site out there, even if I do have to use Google to search through the Epi database, at least for the time being. Computer glitches happen and they're only really fixable during downtimes. So, I say, let's bear with the software folks a while longer, who I'm sure are trying their best to keep downtimes to a minimum, while they explore the many issues. They're probably all related and fairly easy to fix once the actual bad coding is found.

I'm not here for the money, although that is a nice perk and I am trying to take advantage of the 10 for 10 as much as time allows, but I do consider myself a writer and I do like sharing my opinions. Seeing my hits stay level or only creep up on things I'd normally see tons of movement on makes me feel like nobody's reading my work and nobody cares what I think and my reviews are meaningless. That is what worries me, and probably a lot of people, the most about the Epinions database problems. Many folks have left and I doubt it was just about the money, since IS is often counted in pennies.

Jeanne

   
scmrak Posted: May 19 '08,  7:29 am           
Reviews written: 1362
Member since: Sep 27 '00
Post: 185947
RE: Basically Content...

Quote: jps246
What bothers me more is that the problems seem to be getting worse, hits have been down for months on any of the /review/ reviews but now for May, most of them are showing 0 hits and here we are halfway through the month. So are all those reviews basically dead now?
Jeff, as a TR in Sports, Outdoors, or whatever it's called now ("Caskets"?) is quite probably one of the most severely affected. I have only 27 reviews in those/that category, but here are my numbers since April 18 (when hits in those categories essentially died):

number of reviews = 27
total number of hits up to April 18, 2008 = 40,771
total number of hits as of May 19, 2008 = 40,782
number of hits credited to 27 reviews in 31 days = 12¹


¹ 10 of those 12 hits are on an Advice piece
   
jps246 Posted: May 19 '08,  8:30 am (Updated: May 19 '08,  9:03 am)           
Reviews written: 848
Member since: Jan 25 '01
moderator in Outdoor Gear, Sporting Goods
Post: 185948
Hit Count Totals...

Quote: scmrak
Jeff, as a TR in Sports, Outdoors, or whatever it's called now ("Caskets"?) is quite probably one of the most severely affected. I have only 27 reviews in those/that category, but here are my numbers since April 18 (when hits in those categories essentially died):

number of reviews = 27
total number of hits up to April 18, 2008 = 40,771
total number of hits as of May 19, 2008 = 40,782
number of hits credited to 27 reviews in 31 days = 12¹

¹ 10 of those 12 hits are on an Advice piece


I don't keep as detailed records as some, but I just went through all of my Sports and Outdoors reviews. I have 7 reviews that don't have /review/ in them and those seem to be earning hits normally.

For the remaining 141 reviews I've got with /review/ in them (I might have missed a few, but I think that's all of them - either way they show the pattern)...
116,404 hits until April 30th
116,454 hits as of May 19th

That's 50 hits so far in May to all 141 reviews. Some of those reviews were earning upwards of 150 to 200 hits a month, if not more, so you can imagine the drop-off.

I also noticed that for those 50 May hits, only one review had outside hits (5 hits), the others all counted only member hits.

Going through all of them to get the numbers, I noticed that a good amount stopped earning hits in October and November of 2007. Another batch stopped earning hits in February of 2008 and the rest all stopped counting hits as of May of 2008.

Jeff
   
popsrocks Posted: May 19 '08,  8:47 am (Updated: May 19 '08,  8:48 am)           
Reviews written: 2173
Member since: Aug 25 '02
moderator in Gourmet, Restaurants
Post: 185949
RE: Basically Content...

At this point many of us understand there has been a drop off in some categories and the reviews with the extended /review/ URLs get a big 0. We can compare numbers on and on at this point. I know I added to that a couple-a-few times over the past few months. I believe we have established fact.

The reasonable question still remain as was asked earier by Jeff, So are all those reviews basically dead now?

and my questions...

...Why do some posted reviews have them, other reviews not? Why in some categories and not in others? Is there hope that these reviews will someday show movement? If so, would they show past views? Is there hope they will one day give us IS? Are these reviews that will only give us "upfront money" while the promotion goes on and NEVER pay IS?

Again, I agree with NT who started the thread. I have faith that Epinions.com will continue as a consumer information site, it is doing well for me and there is no reason to "freak out" but, certain questions still need to be answered to help us better understand what's happening in reference to these particular reviews.

I also understand the frustration of those who write mostly in categories that are affected.

pops



   
ifif1938 Posted: May 19 '08,  9:16 am           
Reviews written: 799
Member since: Jan 17 '00
Post: 185956
RE: Basically Content...

Quote: popsrocks
At this point many of us understand there has been a drop off in some categories and the reviews with the extended /review/ URLs get a big 0. We can compare numbers on and on at this point. I know I added to that a couple-a-few times over the past few months. I believe we have established fact.

The reasonable question still remain as was asked earier by Jeff, So are all those reviews basically dead now?

and my questions...

...Why do some posted reviews have them, other reviews not? Why in some categories and not in others? Is there hope that these reviews will someday show movement? If so, would they show past views? Is there hope they will one day give us IS? Are these reviews that will only give us "upfront money" while the promotion goes on and NEVER pay IS?

Again, I agree with NT who started the thread. I have faith that Epinions.com will continue as a consumer information site, it is doing well for me and there is no reason to "freak out" but, certain questions still need to be answered to help us better understand what's happening in reference to these particular reviews.

I also understand the frustration of those who write mostly in categories that are affected.

pops


Yes it is very frustrating to have only IS on 5 of 20 reviews...and those 15 were not all food reviews...though they were the majority...

So today, more frustrations as I searched through my wish list trying to decide what next to write a review about...interestingly I found that I had two items that I added which are the same, a calender, when I clicked on one link, the dreaded /review/ was in the url...when I checked the other one it didn't have it...so ofcourse I will use that link, problem is there is no picture of the calender ,yet it is on the other, with review in the url...

Then I clicked on a childrens book I reviewed and my review wasn't listed...It just said no reviews...thats it...
...
No I'm not a happy camper today, things just seem to get worse and not resolved...I really think we should hear something from someone this week...it would be the polite thing to do for us....
   
gamblin_man Posted: May 19 '08,  9:55 am           
Reviews written: 402
Member since: Apr 08 '01
moderator in Home & Garden
Post: 185960
RE: Basically Content...

Quote: popsrocks
At this point many of us understand there has been a drop off in some categories and the reviews with the extended /review/ URLs get a big 0. We can compare numbers on and on at this point. I know I added to that a couple-a-few times over the past few months. I believe we have established fact.

The reasonable question still remain as was asked earier by Jeff, So are all those reviews basically dead now?

and my questions...

...Why do some posted reviews have them, other reviews not? Why in some categories and not in others? Is there hope that these reviews will someday show movement? If so, would they show past views? Is there hope they will one day give us IS? Are these reviews that will only give us "upfront money" while the promotion goes on and NEVER pay IS?

Again, I agree with NT who started the thread. I have faith that Epinions.com will continue as a consumer information site, it is doing well for me and there is no reason to "freak out" but, certain questions still need to be answered to help us better understand what's happening in reference to these particular reviews.

I also understand the frustration of those who write mostly in categories that are affected.

pops


I know all of us would like some explanation and reassurance from Brisbane, but I did try to explain the different databases and the dreaded /review/ here.

http://www.epinions.com/msg/show_~threads/cat_id_~121/id_~20461/forum_id_~441#184795

Larry
   
jps246 Posted: May 19 '08,  11:40 am           
Reviews written: 848
Member since: Jan 25 '01
moderator in Outdoor Gear, Sporting Goods
Post: 185969
My Questions

Quote: gamblin_man
I know all of us would like some explanation and reassurance from Brisbane, but I did try to explain the different databases and the dreaded /review/ here.

http://www.epinions.com/msg/show_~threads/cat_id_~121/id_~20461/forum_id_~441#184795


I get the problem in general that the databases weren't really the same and merging them has resulted in the proverbial situation of trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.

Personally, I'd just like to know:

1) Is this is going to be a permanent problem (aka, are the currently dead categories dead forever);
2) If it's not a permanent problem, when will it be fixed?; and
3) If it can be fixed, will the hits that are currently occuring but not registering going to be credited back? Will there be any IS credit and will the future, properly credited hits earn IS?

These are important questions to those of us who have invested heavily in the impacted categories. Sure, some of my other reviews are doing better in hits and IS than they ever have, but that doesn't make up for the third or so of my reviews that are now invisible, not recording hits and not earning any IS.

Jeff


   
ladyconsumer Posted: May 19 '08,  12:16 pm           
Reviews written: 634
Member since: Jul 11 '05
Post: 185974
RE: My Questions

Those are my questions, too. We've had some official word on this issue, but no one has ever answered those particular questions. I get the feeling no one knows the answers.

On the original question, I'm not freaking out about it, but the current state of things here is vexing, to say the least.

Here is some /review data I've come up with looking at my own reviews.

I have 55 reviews with /review in the URL (47 food&drink, 2 pesonal care, 5 pets, and 1 movie).

Of those 55 reviews, 31 have 0 or 1 outside hit (I count 1 the same as 0 since not convinced that a 1 in that column reflects a "real" hit). The others have outside hits (an average of 11 hits each). So to say that all /review URLs get NO outside hits is not correct. Some DO get hits.

Of those 55 reviews, 30 have $0 in IS. The others have some IS (an average of .23 each). So, to say that all /review URLs get NO IS is also not correct. Some DO get IS.

It's perplexing, isn't it?

Mona
StillNotFreakingOut

   
alexdg1 Posted: May 19 '08,  12:38 pm           
Reviews written: 1275
Member since: Dec 12 '03
Post: 185976
RE: Why is everyone freaking out?

Quote: sleeper54
I am sorry, Alex. We are deliciously off-topic. Hopefully in a chocolate chip kinda way.

Perhaps we should take this up in the VR** room..??



. . . ...:carbsarenotreallymyfriends..dangitsmiliemoment:...



...tom...

**VR: the Virtual Reality room, Epinions newest user-friendly perq . . ..
.


I dunno, Tom. Maybe I better get started on that novel. I'm going to need at least $1 million in royalties to foot the bill for the cookies. There are so many of us!
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