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Paulblow Posted: May 19 '08,  4:20 pm           
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/review

I too have noticed that my OLDER reviews (written over a year ago) that have /review in the url have ceased getting any recorded hits in May... up 'til this month they were still recording hits and IS. Now they're dead too. So the /review problem is getting worse now, not better... huh.

   
nagels Posted: May 19 '08,  5:58 pm           
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RE: Why is everyone freaking out?

Quote: lyoness913
You know fish..you are so right. I absolutely agree with your definition.
Funny thing trolls are.. they come out like worms in the rain.. but they always dry up eventually.



Great simile. I enjoyed it.

spudman
   
rkingfish Posted: May 19 '08,  10:15 pm           
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Post: 186055
RE: Why is everyone freaking out?

Quote: nagels
Great simile. I enjoyed it.

spudman

Spuds,

Isn't a smile just a simile with its left eye removed?

Seeing your handsome face and floppy ears brings to mind my Panasonic vacuum bag review from March. So far, no outside hits. No Income Share. Zero. Zip. Nada.

I'm wondering... could this be an oversight of Epic proportions, or is it simply the fact that nobody from beyond these walls cares a wit that papa's got a brand new bag along with several verbose paragraphs to describe same?

Either way, it ain't no drag...

On the other hand, I could be cleaning-up if this conundrum within a quandary wasn't sucking those errant pennies out of my generous monthly stipend.

Perhaps I'm viewing this from the wrong angle. The universal question being: Is the bag half empty, or half full?

Forever the optimist, I await your (hopefully) irreverent Spudopsis.

Kingfish
Putting the "share" back in Income Share...
   
jps246 Posted: May 20 '08,  4:56 am           
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Post: 186071
RE: My Questions

Quote: ladyconsumer
Those are my questions, too. We've had some official word on this issue, but no one has ever answered those particular questions. I get the feeling no one knows the answers.


And it appears that none are forthcoming from Epinions.
   
jps246 Posted: May 20 '08,  5:14 am (Updated: May 20 '08,  5:15 am)           
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can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: rkingfish
I'm wondering... could this be an oversight of Epic proportions, or is it simply the fact that nobody from beyond these walls cares a wit that papa's got a brand new bag along with several verbose paragraphs to describe same?

Epinions has said there is a problem so if you have the /review/ in your URL for that review, then most likely it's because Epinions is incorrectly handling this review.

Quote: rkingfish
Either way, it ain't no drag...

I'm not trying to be negative here, but for some members it sure is a drag. I know it is for me and I'm sure it's the same for others. Sure it's cool that the IS increased on the stuff that's still working, but I literally have hundreds of reviews with /review/ in them and they have no hits and are earning nothing at all. I know that others have even more reviews than I do in the same boat.

At this point, I'd really just like to get some answers from Epinions, as I think would a lot of members who are concerned about the current situation. While they have said there's a problem with the reviews that have the /review/ bug, there's been no answers or discussion about what it'll take to fix it and when that will happen. Like I said before...
Quote: jps246
Personally, I'd just like to know:

1) Is this is going to be a permanent problem (aka, are the currently dead categories dead forever);
2) If it's not a permanent problem, when will it be fixed?; and
3) If it can be fixed, will the hits that are currently occuring but not registering going to be credited back? Will there be any IS credit and will the future, properly credited hits earn IS?

   
rudixeno Posted: May 20 '08,  6:57 am           
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Post: 186086
RE: /review

Quote: Paulblow
I too have noticed that my OLDER reviews (written over a year ago) that have /review in the url have ceased getting any recorded hits in May... up 'til this month they were still recording hits and IS. Now they're dead too. So the /review problem is getting worse now, not better... huh.


It does seem that way doesn't it? My older big IS reviews have been infected with the /review/ bug.

It would be very helpful (maybe even Most Helpful) if someone from Epinions addressed this issue specifically.

Regards,
Rudi
   
morilla Posted: May 20 '08,  7:37 am           
Reviews written: 198
Member since: Oct 09 '04
Post: 186092
Same Here

My 'big' IS earners were nailed back in October; taking two of the top earners in the category and consigning them to near oblivion. As with others in S & OG (as well as several categories), my steady hit producers have been seemingly systematically 'archived' where they now receive zero hits; despite the fact that quite a number of this are still current products on the market and were receiving steady hits as well as producing a limited amount of IS (which will be no longer forthcoming, I assume, since they don't show "May" in the hits pages).

As with others, even my new/more recent reviews are not recording outside hits I know they're getting. The totals shown on my profile page don't match even the number of member rates in some instances. Most of this year's reviews and even some in December show $0.00. And now I even run into the SSN "known issue" where I can't redeem without submitting my SSN despite not being close to the $600 mark this year; something which seems to add insult to injury regarding the frustration over the major loss in potential income share.

So, yes, it would seem appropriate for Epinions to directly and specifically address these relevant questions - something a bit more positive and informational than "it's a known issue," "it's complicated," or "we're working on it."

   
nagels Posted: May 20 '08,  7:42 am           
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Post: 186096
RE: Why is everyone freaking out?

Quote: rkingfish
Spuds,

Isn't a smile just a simile with its left eye removed?

Seeing your handsome face and floppy ears brings to mind my Panasonic vacuum bag review from March. So far, no outside hits. No Income Share. Zero. Zip. Nada.

I'm wondering... could this be an oversight of Epic

On the other hand, I could be cleaning-up if this conundrum within a quandary wasn't sucking those errant pennies out of my generous monthly stipend.

Perhaps I'm viewing this from the wrong angle. The universal question being: Is the bag half empty, or half full?

Ever the pessimist, for me the Epinions bag is almost empty, I cling to a few dust specks of hope.
Many of my recent reviews have received no outside hits and ZERO income. Perhaps these reviews have been lost in a vacuum like your Panasonic vacuum bags.

Spudman Leapless with Sciata
   
antastic Posted: May 20 '08,  9:28 am (Updated: May 20 '08,  9:40 am)           
Reviews written: 1
Member since: Nov 10 '07
Post: 186119
RE: Why is everyone freaking out?

Quote: rkingfish


Seeing your handsome face and floppy ears brings to mind my Panasonic vacuum bag review from March. So far, no outside hits. No Income Share. Zero. Zip. Nada.

I'm wondering... could this be an oversight of Epic proportions, or is it simply the fact that nobody from beyond these walls cares a wit that papa's got a brand new bag along with several verbose paragraphs to describe same?

Either way, it ain't no drag...


If it ain't no drag, then you don't need to protest that it ain't no drag. On the other hand, if it is a drag, I can totally understand that feeling and the need to pimp the review. :)
   
jps246 Posted: May 20 '08,  10:36 am           
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Questions for Eps Staff

Quote: rudixeno
It would be very helpful (maybe even Most Helpful) if someone from Epinions addressed this issue specifically.

I wish they would.

Jeff
   
rkingfish Posted: May 20 '08,  2:00 pm           
Reviews written: 306
Member since: Jun 16 '06
Post: 186166
RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: jps246

I'm not trying to be negative here, but for some members it sure is a drag.

I understand this. As I mentioned previously in this thread, I hope the problem finds a swift and lasting solution. At this point, I also understand that the powers-that-be responsible for keeping the membership informed of pending solutions have little to offer. Seeing that every thread of this kind in the past few months has given the membership ample opportunity to vent, I believe that Epinions, Shopping.com, eBay and the man in the moon can't help but be aware of the problem.

Since this thread is on the subject of why is everyone freaking-out?, I re-introduce the question. Will the same issues resulting in the same complaints repeated ad infinitum solve the problem with greater speed? Perhaps. If you believe this to be the case then by all means, carry on...

Epinions means different things to each of us who invest our time and effort here. For me, this site is a means to an end. I get to post to a worldwide audience at no charge, which is a whole lot better than writing a piece and sticking it in a drawer somewhere. Some post primarily for the monies received. Whatever your motivation, this site provides some degree value for all involved. Epinions ain't perfect, but for my purposes, it's pretty damn close.

I see slow but steady improvement in the categories with which I am most familiar. Furthermore, if a subsidiary of a major corporation is willing to make the considerable investment required to merge databases, increase categories by number and volume - not to mention pay a $2 premium per review and give me a $50 Christmas bonus to boot, I am inclined to accept this as a good-faith gesture that inspires confidence on my part that these improvements will continue.

♫: "Ain't no drag... Papa's got a brand new bag" ♫ of course refers to a fine R&B song from the 1960s. I always appreciate a touch of humor (or at least the attempt) with my freak-outs. Humor has a way of maintaining perspective any old time it's used.
   
sleeper54 Posted: May 20 '08,  2:14 pm (Updated: May 20 '08,  2:18 pm)           
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RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: rkingfish
--snip--

Epinions ain't perfect, but for my purposes, it's pretty damn close.

--snip--

That thought stands out like a stream of bat piss.

.

.

RE: Monty Python's Oscar Wilde skit.

Yes, thank you. Right, Your Majesty is like a stream of bat's piss.

...after some delay the quickly contrived 'explanation' follows...

"I, um, I, ah, I merely meant, Your Majesty, that, ah, you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark."

hat tip to: youtube.com



Quote: rkingfish
--snip--

Humor has a way of maintaining perspective any old time it's used.

Or else it is found excessively annoying and winds up getting the 'humorist' beat with a large, heavy stick.


Hey, great post.



...tom...
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trailhound Posted: May 20 '08,  2:34 pm           
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RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: rkingfish
I get to post to a worldwide audience at no charge, which is a whole lot better than writing a piece and sticking it in a drawer somewhere.


When a review is posted in some (many?) categories, you probably get less exposure than you would by sticking the review in a drawer. At least you can open the drawer and pull it out, which is easier than finding the review using the Epinions search engine. -Dave
   
antastic Posted: May 20 '08,  4:17 pm           
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Post: 186181
RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: rkingfish
I understand this. As I mentioned previously in this thread, I hope the problem finds a swift and lasting solution. At this point, I also understand that the powers-that-be responsible for keeping the membership informed of pending solutions have little to offer. Seeing that every thread of this kind in the past few months has given the membership ample opportunity to vent, I believe that Epinions, Shopping.com, eBay and the man in the moon can't help but be aware of the problem.

Since this thread is on the subject of why is everyone freaking-out?, I re-introduce the question. Will the same issues resulting in the same complaints repeated ad infinitum solve the problem with greater speed? Perhaps. If you believe this to be the case then by all means, carry on...

Epinions means different things to each of us who invest our time and effort here. For me, this site is a means to an end. I get to post to a worldwide audience at no charge, which is a whole lot better than writing a piece and sticking it in a drawer somewhere. Some post primarily for the monies received. Whatever your motivation, this site provides some degree value for all involved. Epinions ain't perfect, but for my purposes, it's pretty damn close.

I see slow but steady improvement in the categories with which I am most familiar. Furthermore, if a subsidiary of a major corporation is willing to make the considerable investment required to merge databases, increase categories by number and volume - not to mention pay a $2 premium per review and give me a $50 Christmas bonus to boot, I am inclined to accept this as a good-faith gesture that inspires confidence on my part that these improvements will continue.

♫: "Ain't no drag... Papa's got a brand new bag" ♫ of course refers to a fine R&B song from the 1960s. I always appreciate a touch of humor (or at least the attempt) with my freak-outs. Humor has a way of maintaining perspective any old time it's used.


Hi, Ringfish, I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot the other day. From what I have gathered, people make the same complaints, because nothing is being fixed from where they sit. The problems pile up. It is kind of like having your wife nag you about taking out the garbage or mowing the lawn. The nagging will never stop as long as the weeds grow taller and the trash piles higher. Sure, you can tell her that "everything is fine, honey, now stop nagging," but of course that won't really work for you.

What I find curious about your conduct is you state that you love the site as is. That's fine, so enjoy yourself. But why come here where your "wife" can nag you? Especially, when it apparently bothers you? Why mess with that perfect private world you have created for yourself? The bottom line is feel free to express your cares or worries here honestly and openly like the rest of us nags, or, if you have no cares or worries, enjoy the site and leave it at that.
   
rkingfish Posted: May 20 '08,  4:24 pm           
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RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: trailhound
When a review is posted in some (many?) categories, you probably get less exposure than you would by sticking the review in a drawer. At least you can open the drawer and pull it out, which is easier than finding the review using the Epinions search engine. -Dave

Seeing that I continue to get outside hits on the vast majority of my reviews and e-mails from folks who have purchased or avoided products based upon my recommendation (or lack of same), these pieces are apparently still available to a fairly wide audience.

Even if fifty members who rate the piece are the only ones who see it (in the short term), is this not better than a total lack of opportunity for such exposure?

Does anyone out there truly believe that this tedious and incessant whining on this subject that's permeated the boards in recent times will actually result in positive change?

Or will that change occur in spite of it?
   
sleeper54 Posted: May 20 '08,  4:41 pm           
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RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: rkingfish
--snip--

Does anyone out there truly believe that this tedious and incessant whining on this subject that's permeated the boards in recent times will actually result in positive change?

Or will that change occur in spite of it?

Your 'tedious and incessant' is another's reasoned, reactive, and responsible observations.


Like you, I feel the ongoing grousing here will generate no quicker remedy to the ongoing problems. But the catharsis and bonding of bellyaching about what is wrong is much more prevalent than the celebration of what is right in the world. The Eps world and the real world.


But that could just be me.



...tom...
.
   
antastic Posted: May 20 '08,  4:42 pm           
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RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: rkingfish


Does anyone out there truly believe that this tedious and incessant whining on this subject that's permeated the boards in recent times will actually result in positive change?

Or will that change occur in spite of it?


These are valid questions, but keep in mind that whining is a two-sided broken record. People who whine about whiners are also whiners. If the whining doesn't result in positive change, people will continue to whine or they will leave. If the squeaky wheel gets the grease, then don't expect silence.
   
shopaholic_man Posted: May 20 '08,  4:45 pm           
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RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: antastic
These are valid questions, but keep in mind that whining is a two-sided broken record. People who whine about whiners are also whiners. If the whining doesn't result in positive change, people will continue to whine or they will leave. If the squeaky wheel gets the grease, then don't expect silence.



but can you say that three times fast?
   
antastic Posted: May 20 '08,  4:51 pm           
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RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: shopaholic_man
but can you say that three times fast?


1. People who whine about whiners are also whiners.
2. People who whine about whiners are also whiners.
3. People who whine about whiners are also whiners.

Phew!
   
ladyconsumer Posted: May 20 '08,  4:54 pm           
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RE: can we get an answer from Eps?

Quote: rkingfish

Does anyone out there truly believe that this tedious and incessant whining on this subject that's permeated the boards in recent times will actually result in positive change?



It might. It might not.

In any case, whining on the subject gives me something to do while I'm not watching my hits go up.
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