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cmuir Posted: Aug 28 '08,  8:33 pm           
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Post: 199817
RE: New WYSIWYG Text Editor Help Thread

Quote: ladyconsumer
Just a note...

I'm having wonderful success pasting from Word - as long as I take care not to include any end-of-line markers when I bold/italicize in Word. It's actually not so easy to do - Word seems to "want" to include that last character, but highlighting very slowly seems to make it work.

However, I'm working in XP/Word 2003. I can't talk about how it works (or doesn't) in Vista/Word 2007. Perhaps someone else on that platform could chime in?

But if anyone's using 2003, and having trouble, I'm willing to bet it's those end-of-line markers causing it. (It will give you the html error AND mess up your spacing). Just take care when bolding/italicising NOT to include that final space at the end of the line.


Mona
Who's not upgrading her computer for a while, so she can only talk about Word2003.


Thanks for that tip, I wasn't careful when I was highlighting mine and would probably have had issues. Will go back and fix that little error.

Cindi
   
pambo Posted: Aug 28 '08,  8:39 pm           
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Post: 199818
No, not yet



Yes. Just type your review in Word, using REAL bolds and italics. (Not html tags). Then when you paste it into the new editor (using the "Word" button), it will (should) look perfect. Mine did.

Yeah, this is exactly what didn't work. I bolded it on Word, copied it in and I'm still getting an error. Although I think there's some hidden coding in this. I'll start with a completely fresh review tomorrow and try again.

   
njchicaa Posted: Aug 28 '08,  10:09 pm           
Reviews written: 739
Member since: Jun 27 '05
Post: 199825
RE: No, not yet

I had major issues and am still not sure how I got the system to accept the review after having SIX ERRORS that I had no idea how to fix.

I will say that I've been using whatever the newest version of Microsoft Word (2007?) is plus Windows Vista. I can't say for sure, but I don't think that the Eps Engineers were working with those formats when they constructed the new WXYZ format.

   
busby777 Posted: Aug 28 '08,  10:16 pm           
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Member since: Nov 25 '00
Post: 199826
not working for me

I have tried everything that I can think of, but it doesn't work for me. It shows the < i > code and not tialics, and it shows the < b > code and not bold.

I have tried the old way, and pasting from word, and so forth. I tried all the new buttons, too.

WYSIWYG is not working for me.

I have Netscape (sorry, but it's the best browser for me), and I have an older version of Word.

I guess I'll just have to wait for the kinks to get worked out.

[sigh]

~~~

   
bkalafut Posted: Aug 29 '08,  1:29 am           
Reviews written: 257
Member since: Nov 21 '03
Post: 199831
What works for me.

The new editor goes nuts when there are paragraph tags, inserting line breaks in between them. I took out my p tags and put double line breaks at the end of each paragraph, plus one--only one, this is important!--CR/LF.

A little less interesting than figuring out how to get around Epinions' URL filter (easy enough once you see the trick), but this helps me get reviews posted, whereas that will merely get me kicked off the site :-)

   
jps246 Posted: Aug 29 '08,  4:43 am           
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Post: 199834
RE: What works for me.

While I'm not sure it's a good solution for some who like their reviews formatted as they are (I know I do), for the time being one way to solve all the HTML issues is to simply not use HTML in your review. Don't bold anything, don't italicize anything and then there won't be HTML code nesting errors.

Plus on a more positive note, I'm sure that there's some work going on trying to fix these issues since Eps isn't going to shoot themselves in the foot and make it impossible for people to post reviews, which are the lifeblood of the site.

Jeff

   
ladyconsumer Posted: Aug 29 '08,  5:20 am (Updated: Aug 29 '08,  5:26 am)           
Reviews written: 634
Member since: Jul 11 '05
Post: 199836
RE: not working for me

Quote: busby777
I have tried everything that I can think of, but it doesn't work for me. It shows the < i > code and not tialics, and it shows the < b > code and not bold.
~~~



That happened to me, when I put the tags in my Word document, then brought the Word document into Eps. The fix: don't use tags in the document. Use REAL bold & italics. That worked for me. Try it. (But be careful not to grab end-of-line markers at the ends of lines - that extra space that Word "wants" to grab - don't let it).
   
scmrak Posted: Aug 29 '08,  7:06 am (Updated: Aug 29 '08,  7:07 am)           
Reviews written: 1362
Member since: Sep 27 '00
Post: 199848
RE: not working for me

Quote: ladyconsumer
That happened to me, when I put the tags in my Word document, then brought the Word document into Eps. The fix: don't use tags in the document. Use REAL bold & italics. That worked for me. Try it. (But be careful not to grab end-of-line markers at the ends of lines - that extra space that Word "wants" to grab - don't let it).
I posted two reviews yesterday (and immediately realized that one was off-topic, so it returned to Unpublished status). Both were cut-n-pasted straight from Word, using Word's bolding and italics. Both posted without a hitch. Of course, I didn't use any tildes or pipes. Maybe they're what's messing up the formatting?

-30-

rex
   
pestyside Posted: Aug 29 '08,  7:49 am           
Reviews written: 1049
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Post: 199849
RE: New WYSIWYG Text Editor Help Thread

I get to enjoy working with Windows Vista. Yesterday I posted two reviews, the second because of wanting to check out the new form. My first was the typical posting with html codes and boy did it become a nightmare. I did use the html button to edit that review and it was a mess, similar to what everyone has been describing. Then someone here suggested not using my codes, but using bold and italics in word and then pasting directly by way of the word button.

It went without a problem--easy as pie. My lesson, when in doubt, visit the boards 'cause somebody else has already been there, done that.

Patsy

   
dragonfire88 Posted: Aug 29 '08,  1:21 pm           
Reviews written: 1182
Member since: Jul 20 '01
Post: 199880
RE: What works for me.

Quote: jps246
Plus on a more positive note, I'm sure that there's some work going on trying to fix these issues since Eps isn't going to shoot themselves in the foot and make it impossible for people to post reviews, which are the lifeblood of the site.

Jeff


I'd feel more...confident about something being done to fix or address these issues if someone from Epinions had posted in one of the threads connected to the new editor in the last two days. Even just to say that they realize there is an issue and will try to resolve it.

I also still think there needs to be more detailed instructions on the new editor instead of just the few general things posted in the message about the new editor...and update the instructions that show up when you are actually posting a review. Clicking on the link for instructions on including links in the review isn't helpful at all. I tried that Wednesday night and all it told me was that I could only link to other pages within Epinions, which I already knew.
   
yoelc Posted: Aug 29 '08,  2:18 pm           
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Post: 199885
RE: What works for me.

Quote: dragonfire88
I'd feel more...confident about something being done to fix or address these issues if someone from Epinions had posted in one of the threads connected to the new editor in the last two days. Even just to say that they realize there is an issue and will try to resolve it.


We are here reading all the posts and actively working on resolving the issues that we can reproduce. We can now confirm that there are problems with pasting from Word 2007. If you are using that version of Word please save as text and paste that into the editor until further notice.

Yoel
Epinions Product Manager
   
dragonfire88 Posted: Aug 29 '08,  2:38 pm           
Reviews written: 1182
Member since: Jul 20 '01
Post: 199886
RE: What works for me.

Quote: yoelc
We are here reading all the posts and actively working on resolving the issues that we can reproduce. We can now confirm that there are problems with pasting from Word 2007. If you are using that version of Word please save as text and paste that into the editor until further notice.

Yoel
Epinions Product Manager


Thank you for the reply. I do realize you all are probably very busy and I wasn't trying to attack or be too critical. It's just nice to know that you are listening.


   
sleeper54 Posted: Aug 29 '08,  2:46 pm (Updated: Aug 29 '08,  3:08 pm)           
Reviews written: 496
Member since: Feb 24 '01
Post: 199887
extra spacing in reviews...

...
I noticed today, as I struggled to post a review, that as I left the first page, went to the 'bottom line' page, and then the final page ...I noticed that if I chose to edit my review and return to that page ...it was adding extra spaces (extra <br /> tags) where ever I already had some. At every location.

I was able to do this over and over and watch my review 'spread out' like a gelatinous glob. Kinda like my reviews normally look.


I finally realized I had one chance to get everything right: spelling, spacing, bolding, italicizing before I continued on.


I considered adding a link . . .but by then I was exhausted from fighting to publish it as I envisioned it looking. And no, I was not going to settle for no bolding or italicizing. It is a step back when we are asked to accept less.


Anyway, just a pointer. If you see a review with tons of white space between paragraphs, remember this post and possible cause.



...tom...
.

   
pilarzmom Posted: Aug 29 '08,  2:51 pm (Updated: Aug 29 '08,  2:53 pm)           
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Member since: Jan 18 '03
Post: 199888
RE: What works for me.

Quote: yoelc
We are here reading all the posts and actively working on resolving the issues that we can reproduce. We can now confirm that there are problems with pasting from Word 2007. If you are using that version of Word please save as text and paste that into the editor until further notice.

Yoel
Epinions Product Manager


Yes, that's exactly what I did this afternoon. Got the error messages as mentioned. So I started from scratch and did it my old way of just converting to a .txt file, bolding subtitles, etc. (after pasting), and no problems from that point on.

I didn't have any issues with spacing either.
   
sleeper54 Posted: Aug 29 '08,  3:10 pm           
Reviews written: 496
Member since: Feb 24 '01
Post: 199889
RE: What works for me.

Quote: pilarzmom
Yes, that's exactly what I did this afternoon. Got the error messages as mentioned. So I started from scratch and did it my old way of just converting to a .txt file, bolding subtitles, etc. (after pasting), and no problems from that point on.

I didn't have any issues with spacing either.

Just curious ...did you go back and edit after getting to the final page..??



...tom...
.
   
pilarzmom Posted: Aug 29 '08,  3:55 pm           
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Post: 199890
RE: What works for me.

Quote: sleeper54
Just curious ...did you go back and edit after getting to the final page..??



...tom...
.


No, didn't have to.

So just to put it in steps.

1. Write review in Word
2. Change to .txt file (make sure you check box for accept character substitution)
3. Copy
4. Paste into Epinions using their Cut/paste utility
5. Add bolds/italics using their tools
6. Copy in any links
7. Publish

I hope that answers your question.
   
dragonfire88 Posted: Aug 29 '08,  5:39 pm           
Reviews written: 1182
Member since: Jul 20 '01
Post: 199900
RE: What works for me.

Quote: sleeper54
Just curious ...did you go back and edit after getting to the final page..??



...tom...
.


By final page do you mean the page where you get to preview the review before it is published?
I'm not pasting in from Word, but I have had to go back to edit after getting to that point with all three reviews I've posted with the new editor. I was able to fix what I needed to without a bunch of extra spaces being added.

I've also had to go back into 2 of the reviews after they were published to deal with the links and that didn't mess with my spacing either.
   
nad_masters Posted: Aug 29 '08,  6:07 pm           
Reviews written: 550
Member since: Jun 11 '01
Post: 199905
.

I was going to start a thread, but since there's one about it now...

EPINIONS! GIVE US AN OPTION TO USE THE OLD WAY!

That is all.


I had a hell of a time posting my last review!

   
sleeper54 Posted: Aug 29 '08,  6:28 pm           
Reviews written: 496
Member since: Feb 24 '01
Post: 199907
RE: What works for me.

Quote: pilarzmom
No, didn't have to.

So just to put it in steps.

1. Write review in Word
2. Change to .txt file (make sure you check box for accept character substitution)
3. Copy
4. Paste into Epinions using their Cut/paste utility
5. Add bolds/italics using their tools
6. Copy in any links
7. Publish

I hope that answers your question.

Hmmm. On my first attempt I did all that (except, apparently, the 'accept character substitution' thing)

But unlike you, I found changes that I wanted to make at the publish or edit page. When I went back is when I had trouble. It was at that point that I started having the problems with extra spaces being added each time as I went back to change something.

I finally got it published as I wanted it by making sure everything was exactly as I wanted it . . .and I did not go back to edit.

Which sure reins in my freedom to edit as, Marie and Barbara have already suggested.


I have one more to publish this month. I guess I will have a chance to try it at least one more time soon.



...tom...
.
   
popsrocks Posted: Aug 29 '08,  7:02 pm           
Reviews written: 2175
Member since: Aug 25 '02
moderator in Gourmet, Restaurants
Post: 199908
RE: extra spacing in reviews...

Quote: sleeper54
...
I noticed today, as I struggled to post a review, that as I left the first page, went to the 'bottom line' page, and then the final page ...I noticed that if I chose to edit my review and return to that page ...it was adding extra spaces (extra
tags) where ever I already had some. At every location.

I was able to do this over and over and watch my review 'spread out' like a gelatinous glob. Kinda like my reviews normally look.


I finally realized I had one chance to get everything right: spelling, spacing, bolding, italicizing before I continued on.

...tom...
.


Yes, somehow extra brackets for more spacing are added automatically. I see I then have to go into the html and remove the brackets and after juggling back and forth I somehow get it right.

pops

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