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| PattyTherre |
Posted: May 04 '06, 9:03 am (Updated: May 04 '06, 9:04 am) |
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RE: Swearing in reviews
Quote: scmrak Perhaps it should be. Unless one is actually quoting a passage, there's precious little reason to interject profanity/vulgarity/obscenity into a movie review. I mean, if one can't think of an intensifier other than "f***ing" in describing something, there is a site called www.thesaurus.com.
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rex
I totally agree. I can't see any reason to swear for the sake of swearing because you know how to get around filters. They are in place for a reason and we agreed to play by the rules here. Even without the rule, I don't see the point in engaging in language that we all know is offensive to many even if it isn't to the reviewer.
I do find it funny though that, when I wrote the work go0ky to describe the feeling of a particular hair gel (It did feel that way!), I was censored. Naturally I came up with a different word but that was being a tad ultraconservative. Though I understand the meaning behind the word without the "y" and I guess that is why I couldn't use that word to describe the gel that felt...gunky instead.
Patty
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| AdaDavis |
Posted: May 04 '06, 9:09 am |
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RE: Eff this
Quote: panguitch
I'd like to see a review titled "I hated this coital movie!" or "I hated this bumping-uglies movie!" I might even click on such a review.
**snicker**
Being a visually-oriented person, when someone refers to his "effing toaster" - I get a very peculiar visual image. I must be a boring person, because I only use toasters to make toast. I had no idea they were so versatile!
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| panguitch |
Posted: May 04 '06, 9:14 am |
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Reviews written: 285 Member since: Jul 30 '02
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RE: Eff this
As with any appliance, it's important to remember to unplug it before performing any . . . maintenance.
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| Simply_Crispy |
Posted: May 04 '06, 9:38 am |
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RE: Swearing in reviews
Slightly veering away from the recent posts, but keeping on topic, I did a Top 10 list years ago wherein I used the phrased "paw-to-claw" (think it was a description of the dinosaur V King Kong fight) and this was picked up by the filter as an unacceptable word.
Is this an American phrase I'm not aware of?
Yeah, it didn't like it just then either. |
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| B_Campbell |
Posted: May 04 '06, 9:56 am |
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Reviews written: 204 Member since: Mar 28 '00
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RE: Swearing in reviews
Quote: PattyTherre I totally agree. I can't see any reason to swear for the sake of swearing because you know how to get around filters.
Reasons #1 and #2. "Tee-hee, I might push someone's buttons, I'm such a rebel!"
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| roheblius |
Posted: May 04 '06, 10:01 am (Updated: May 04 '06, 10:04 am) |
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Reviews written: 602 Member since: Dec 13 '99
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RE: Swearing
Quote: caffienatedyak
Well, I do recall you calling me out on swearing in my reviews recently, yet there are others who swear in their reviews as well - uncensored and passing the filter just like i do (I won't name names, since, well, some of 'em are friends of mine) - and it doesn't seem to concern you. I also had that whole deal with my Tomb Raider review a few months back yet later someone posted a clear, stray s-word uncensored in their review in thwe same section and the reviewer who ragged on me for my profanity didn't say a thing about theirs (granted, my response was part of the brouhaha but part of the ensuing discussion WAS about my f-word).
I don't believe you were ticketed for anything. I was asking for examples of someone receiveing a ticket.
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| vivasuzi |
Posted: May 04 '06, 10:03 am |
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Reviews written: 32 Member since: Mar 06 '00
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RE: Swearing
Quote: caffienatedyak But I do agree it's a double-standard thing. Some people can get away with it. Some can't. It's all down to who you are and who likes you, I suppose.
It also has to do with who finds your reviews, some people may be offended by everything, but just come across review X and complain, but they never saw review Y so they couldn't complain about it. Luck of the draw! |
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| vivasuzi |
Posted: May 04 '06, 10:17 am |
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Reviews written: 32 Member since: Mar 06 '00
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RE: Swearing
Quote: caffienatedyak But regarding kids-raised-rights-issues: Who's to say who did and didn't raise their kids right? My personal standards would be if the kid said "please" and "thank you" (well, I don't if I'm getting belligerent, but I usually try to be respectful to people. No, really. Stop laughing), referred to friends of their parents or teachers as "Mr." or "Mrs." (I have a friend at work who's roughly my mom's age yet I still call her "Mrs." - just how I was raised), helped people out who needed it... whether or not they used profanity was up to them. I personally try to avoid it at WORK because I can get in trouble, but I wouldn't personally tolerate someone telling me how to speak.
I'd say my personal standards are mostly what you said above PLUS kids should know that they can't always talk the same around different people. I think this is the hardest part of raising a kid - such as teaching them that while you can tell fart jokes and eat on the floor at home, when we are at grandma's you shouldn't... Now I'm saying "grandma" to mean anyone who wouldn't appreciate this stuff. I would try to teach my kids the importance of being respectful in school, or at grandmas, or whatever the case may be - and that would include teaching them not to swear at any of those places...and most likely not at home but I wouldn't be soaping their mouths out if I was the only one around ;)
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| panguitch |
Posted: May 04 '06, 10:31 am |
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RE: Swearing
Quote: vivasuzi kids should know that they can't always talk the same around different people. I think this is the hardest part of raising a kid - such as teaching them that while you can tell fart jokes and eat on the floor at home, when we are at grandma's you shouldn't
I think this is key. While you don't want to enslave yourself to the whims of whoever's company you're in at the moment, you should also not be so caught up in yourself that you're unwilling to temporarily alter even the smallest of behaviors to allow for someone else's preference or convenience.
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| Simply_Crispy |
Posted: May 04 '06, 10:59 am |
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RE: Swearing in reviews
Quote: B_Campbell Reasons #1 and #2. "Tee-hee, I might push someone's buttons, I'm such a rebel!"
Wow, it's like you know me or something.
See I don't mind if people say that they don't like swearing, hell you can call me an idiot for doing it if you want. But what gets my goat is when people start assuming that I do it because I have some sort of agenda, or think that it'll be funny to try and tick people off. Neither is true in the slightest. If I swear, then that's just because it's who I am, not because I want to try and impress and/or annoy some total strangers over the internet.
Chris
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| roheblius |
Posted: May 04 '06, 11:19 am |
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Reviews written: 602 Member since: Dec 13 '99
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RE: Swearing
Quote: caffienatedyak Ah. I misread that. But it still stands that you did call me out for using profanity uncensored in my review and saying I could/should basically be ticketed for it (which had nothing to do with the topic at hand, I may add), yet there are many others on here who can do it and they would get away with it.
I'm unsure how that's a double standard. You weren't ticketed for anything. And please shoot me an e-mail where I said you should be ticketed for something. If I said that anywhere in a comment section, that's my bad and I apologize, but I don't remember it.
I think the gist of my statement to you had to do with you being a talented writer and not having to use curse words to get your point across. |
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| B_Campbell |
Posted: May 04 '06, 11:22 am (Updated: May 04 '06, 12:14 pm) |
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RE: Swearing in reviews
Quote: Simply_Crispy Wow, it's like you know me or something.
See I don't mind if people say that they don't like swearing, hell you can call me an idiot for doing it if you want. But what gets my goat is when people start assuming that I do it because I have some sort of agenda, or think that it'll be funny to try and tick people off. Neither is true in the slightest. If I swear, then that's just because it's who I am, not because I want to try and impress and/or annoy some total strangers over the internet.
Chris
Woah, back up there bucko.
Do you "swear for the sake of swearing because you know how to get around filters"?
If the answer is no, then what I said doesn't apply to you at all. Talk about assuming...
I note in your most recent review you chose to use the word "frickin'" instead of a more forceful alternative. Sounds like the point got across anyway. I don't really think you're the type of reviewer we're talking about here; in fact, that's more like the example I would point people to in order to show them that there are perfectly fine alternatives to "pushing the evelope" by being gratuitous.
Yes, I saw "shit-eating grin", but thought it was appropriate given the immediate context. That review is actually an excellent example of a context where normally objectionable language would be more likely to pass people by, considering the movie.
Anyway, the point is, if someone knows they're circumventing the filter -- as the person you referred to in your original post surely does -- there's no point in making a stink about a ticket when it happens. |
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| Simply_Crispy |
Posted: May 04 '06, 12:18 pm |
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RE: Swearing in reviews
Quote: B_Campbell Woah, back up there bucko.
Do you "swear for the sake of swearing because you know how to get around filters"?
If the answer is no, then what I said doesn't apply to you at all. Talk about assuming...
Yeah, maybe I worded my response badly and/or misinterpreted your post. Anyway, I wasn't saying that your comment was in anyway referring to myself.
Quote: B_Campbell I note in your most recent review you chose to use the word "frickin'" instead of a more forceful alternative. Sounds like the point got across anyway. I don't really think you're the type of reviewer we're talking about here; in fact, that's more like the example I would point people to in order to show them that there are perfectly fine alternatives to "pushing the evelope" by being gratuitous.
I dunno, I am known as the "potty-mouthed Brit" by one of the leads in Movies. But I've said all along that I agree that swearing, just for swearings sake, and doing it a lot is more boring than offensive so I guess in that respect you and I agree, kinda.
It's just not something that would offend me or even give it too much thought. If someone where to constantly use it inappropriately, I'd probably just click out of the link and move onto another review. By the same token, the reviewer who I refer to at the start of the thread, now he swears like a trooper, but the manner in which he words everything, and the context in which he does it just has me roaring with laughter.
*shrug*
It's possibly just my background. Where I was raised, it's not uncommon to hear everyone from the age of 4-104 using profanities, and regularly. |
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| carstairs38 |
Posted: May 04 '06, 1:48 pm |
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RE: Swearing in reviews
So is it me, or has the use of swear words in reviews increased since we started this conversation?
Mark |
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| scmrak |
Posted: May 04 '06, 2:12 pm |
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RE: Eff this
Quote: panguitch Sadly, thesaurus.com's results for this were rather less humorous than I anticipated.
I'd like to see a review titled "I hated this coital movie!" or "I hated this bumping-uglies movie!" I might even click on such a review. Hmmm, Mr. Librarian, get thee (via interlibrary loan, of course) a copy of Jesse Sheidlower's book, The F-Word. He's got lots of sinonyms...
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rex
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| scmrak |
Posted: May 04 '06, 2:14 pm |
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RE: Swearing in reviews
Quote: PattyTherre I do find it funny though that, when I wrote the work go0ky to describe the feeling of a particular hair gel (It did feel that way!) No, it felt "ooky." Or "goopy." But seriously, I once had difficulty describing Kinsey Milhone's one black dress, good enough for anything from a funeral to a cocktail party. Something about cocktail party got the inline filthter's goat.
B-a-a-a-a-d!
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| Simply_Crispy |
Posted: May 04 '06, 4:16 pm |
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re: Swearing in reviews
I tells ya, I never quite expected the responses I've got with this thread.
If this was an English site, some clever sod would have posted "go and [fornicate] yourself you [female genitalia]" by now.
We English are very sophisticated, dontchaknow? |
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| George_Chabot |
Posted: May 04 '06, 4:28 pm |
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Reviews written: 1902 Member since: Feb 09 '00
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Um -
what was the question, again? |
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| joyfulgirl91 |
Posted: May 04 '06, 4:30 pm |
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RE: Swearing in reviews
Quote: Simply_Crispy
If this was an English site, some clever sod would have posted "go and [fornicate] yourself you [female genitalia]" by now.
We English are very sophisticated, dontchaknow?
I've got lotsa relatives in Bridgenorth, and I know exactly how sophisticated you are. Someone awhile back said something about teens in England not getting wasted - ummmmm, I'm going to guess they have never been an English teen. Not from the Black Country or London, anyway. |
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| roheblius |
Posted: May 04 '06, 4:38 pm |
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RE: Swearing
Quote: caffienatedyak Nah, it wasn't in a comment section. In fact, it was in an email itself. Which I suppose I could understand (but still be slightly annoyed at) but the topic at hand hadn't even had a thing to do with cussing in reviews till you brought it up outta nowhere, which kind of bugged because it was like "Okay, this has what to do with what I originally emailed him about?" (that and "Yes, but what about the others who do it regularly and don't get a word said to them about it?")
Sorry if I misinterpreted your statement (although thanks for the second half) - I just figured it was you saying "by the way, if I were you I'd stop the cussing because you could get in trouble for that here. Hint. Hint." (Which, again: I misinterpret things easily anyway, so...)
I e-mailed you to clear things up. |
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