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jkafer Posted: Feb 15 '06,  12:53 pm           Reply
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Quote: ChromeKiller
Where's your statistical proof?

Since statistics only track prior events, there's no statistic capable of proving a future action won't occur.

My knowledge of this comes from experience, grasshopper. How many retirement homes have you been in that had video game consoles (other than to entertain visiting kids)? Probably 0%. And how many had bridge, poker, and/or bingo nights? 100%.

And in those same retirement communities, how many times have you heard anyone listening to the latest guitar rock whilst playing an air guitar? Again, 0%.

c'mon, stop arguing just to argue.
   
jkafer Posted: Feb 15 '06,  12:57 pm           Reply
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Actually, in most cases, elderly people aren't adapted to change; most elderly people do have computers and DVD players. So, sorry about my previously fallible statement. However, I still don't think elderly people would have the patience to get into playing videogames -- a type of entertainment most elderly people think is complete nonsense and stupidity.

But, that's why I say internet games are the way to go. They are non-platform and easy to get into and utilize great hand-eye coordination (believe it or not). Plus there is a great variety to choose from; I mean they have tens of thousands of sponsored internet games.


Are you arguing with yourself?
   
three_ster Posted: Feb 15 '06,  1:40 pm           Reply
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I guess that I hadn't made it completely clear what I was looking for. There were some good suggestions here, but I am not so sure about offering up first person shooters...lol

My friend has heard of specific games, specifically geared towards seniors. Meaning they were created for them, and could be played on current consoles (or on a laptop). That was more what I was looking for. My searches through the net have not turned up anything as of yet.

--Ryan (three_ster)

   
jkafer Posted: Feb 15 '06,  2:01 pm (Updated: Feb 15 '06,  2:01 pm)           Reply
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My friend has heard of specific games, specifically geared towards seniors.

The closest you'll get are casual games on Zone.com or Yahoo. There you can find bridge and other card games. Heck, on Xbox Live Arcade you can get Backgammon, Hearts, and Spades. If those games don't cater to an older audience, I don't know what does.

You won't find them marketed to "seniors" because it's too tiny an audience, so you have to make the inference yourself.
   
ChromeKiller Posted: Feb 15 '06,  2:33 pm           Reply
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Quote: jkafer
Since statistics only track prior events, there's no statistic capable of proving a future action won't occur.

My knowledge of this comes from experience, grasshopper. How many retirement homes have you been in that had video game consoles (other than to entertain visiting kids)? Probably 0%. And how many had bridge, poker, and/or bingo nights? 100%.

And in those same retirement communities, how many times have you heard anyone listening to the latest guitar rock whilst playing an air guitar? Again, 0%.

c'mon, stop arguing just to argue.


Well, since you have no evidence that 99.9% of senior citizens will not touch Guitar Hero, you're obviously an untrustworthy source on that subject. Now, about your assumption percentile...I can't relay any answers to you. I've only been to one retirement home before in my life, and that was more than a decade ago. How many times do you visit retirement homes on a weekly, monthly, or yearly basis?

Oh, and I wasn't saying senior citizens DO play Guitar Hero. I was saying that it's possible that they could if they really wanted to. If you give them an electronic guitar peripheral, I'm sure it's likely they could play the game and maybe even enjoy it.
   
ChromeKiller Posted: Feb 15 '06,  2:42 pm           Reply
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Quote: three_ster
I guess that I hadn't made it completely clear what I was looking for. There were some good suggestions here, but I am not so sure about offering up first person shooters...lol

My friend has heard of specific games, specifically geared towards seniors. Meaning they were created for them, and could be played on current consoles (or on a laptop). That was more what I was looking for. My searches through the net have not turned up anything as of yet.

--Ryan (three_ster)


There are no video games specifically created for seniors. That's why your searching has turned up zero results. Your best bet is to go with any of the suggestions that seem like your best bet. Although, I think the Revolution console might be the most ideal choice in your situation. Since Nintendo's design for that system is to target all audiences, that might be the type of thing you're looking for. The Revolution console will be out sometime in the fall, I know. Nintendo's now saying it needs to launch the system by November, or else retailers won't sell the system in that time frame I think it is.
   
jkafer Posted: Feb 15 '06,  2:43 pm (Updated: Feb 15 '06,  2:45 pm)           Reply
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Quote: ChromeKiller
How many times do you visit retirement homes on a weekly, monthly, or yearly basis?


Well let's see, I've had 4 grandparents on my side and 4 on my wife's side as well as her great grandparents. So of the 6-8 elderly retirement homes I've been in over the years, not a single one had a video game console. Nor did I hear any complaining in the hallways about a lack of one.

We weren't talking about the physical capabilites of the elderly to play a guitar. We were talking about games that cater to seniors that they might have an interest in. And seniors aren't going to be interested in Guitar Hero for PS2. So their physical ability to play it is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
   
ChromeKiller Posted: Feb 15 '06,  3:20 pm           Reply
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Quote: jkafer
We weren't talking about the physical capabilites of the elderly to play a guitar. We were talking about games that cater to seniors that they might have an interest in. And seniors aren't going to be interested in Guitar Hero for PS2. So their physical ability to play it is irrelevant to the topic at hand.


Yeah, but it's just a suggestion, just like your suggestion for card games. My own grandmother doesn't play poker, or any card games for that matter. So, should I immediately assume senior citizens will not play a game of poker if offered to them?
   
jkafer Posted: Feb 15 '06,  3:41 pm (Updated: Feb 15 '06,  3:41 pm)           Reply
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Quote: ChromeKiller
Yeah, but it's just a suggestion, just like your suggestion for card games. My own grandmother doesn't play poker, or any card games for that matter. So, should I immediately assume senior citizens will not play a game of poker if offered to them?

No, but you probably shouldn't offer her a video card game since that isn't where interests lie. Given the abundance of parlor games in retirement homes in general, it's a safe assumption that parlor video games would be more appealing than other video game types. As well, the developers have that audience in mind, at least on the periphery.
   
B_Campbell Posted: Feb 15 '06,  5:00 pm           Reply
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Okay, a couple things I want to throw out here. Sorry if these don't really answer your question three_ster, but I hope you're at least getting some interesting information.

The problem we're having here is that we're assuming "senior citizens" are one homogenous group. A general definition of "senior citizen" is anyone 65 years of age and older. That is millions of people in the U.S.. It's practically impossible to generalize and say that something is good for senior citizens or liked by senior citizens because it's just too large a group.

In addition the group of "senior citizens" includes people with a wide range of skill, interest, and ability. You're talking about people all the way from full physical ability (I know 70 year old martial artists who can do somet things that the average 18 year old can't) to those who are severly limited by injury, sickness, or disease. There are some seniors who could easily pick up a controller and play Halo 2 alongside any of us, and there are some who physically couldn't lift a controller. And of course there are ability, skill, and interest levels everywhere between the extremes.

My girlfriend is currently pursuing a community and counseling psychology licensing program with a goal of working with the elderly population. She volunteers weekly at an assisted living community (that's not the proper term, and I forget exactly what the proper term is). Most of the people she sees are in wheelchairs and have very limited abilities. I was considering my suggestions for a target audience that didn't have full ability but who weren't severely impaired, either. I think this is probably the ideal demographic to target because games can be excellent therapy, and if someone with mild impairment can play a game then someone with no impairment can play too, but that doesn't necessarily work the other way around.

In fact, now that I think about it, for her externship my girlfriend has to develop a program, and I'm going to suggest video game therapy to her.

One thing to get out of the way is that seniors are not stupid. A lot of people treat the elderly like they treat children; they talk to them in funny voices and humor them, or don't have time or patience when they're hard to understand. While some elderly people have advanced physical and/or mental disabilities that do impair their mental abilities, many, if not most, function perfectly well at an adult level. I'm not saying that anyone here has shown an "elderly are dumb" stereotype but it's common and an easy trap. The point here is that we shouldn't write off experiences because we don't think a senior would "understand" it.

As for accepting new technology, again the population is huge. There is a wide variance. For every senior who is afraid to use a TV remote, there's one who knows more about computers than any of us. Keep in mind that someone who is 65 today was 50 in 1990; that means they were middle-aged when computers started becoming extremely popular in the home. The people who originally developed the Internet as we know it and coded for early computers are considered senior citizens today. The only way to know if a senior would accept or reject technology is to try it. Specifically, technology that is particularly designed for seniors will be much more successful; I think this is why the original post asked for games specifically designed for seniors.

continued...

   
B_Campbell Posted: Feb 15 '06,  5:10 pm           Reply
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As for the specific case of Guitar Hero; it does have a familiar controller and relatively simple interface; however, even though the guitar controller is familiar, it's still fairly complicated. It probably wouldn't be a great coice for a first-time experience. However, plenty of seniors are guitar players themselves, so I wouldn't rule it out completely, and in fact it could be an excellent introduction for a senior who is musically inclined ro who already plays guitar. I do agree that in most cases it probably wouldn't be appropriate.

I guess what I really wanted to get across is that making a blanket statement that seniors don't adapt well to new technology or new experiences is just ignorant. Especially when you're talking about someone who isn't living independently, these people are dying (sorry for the bad choice of words) for new things to do. For a short time, my girlfriend was helping with a dance therapy group session that was held weekly for about half a dozen seniors. Most of them had pretty severe motor impairments and were in wheelchairs. But my god, they were so happy to see my girlfriend every week and when I visited, they were positively ecstatic to see someone new. If you sat down to play a video game with one of these people, they would absolutely love it, not so much for the game but for the fact that you're sitting there and spending some time interacting with them.

Okay, so no, I don't know of any games specifically designed for seniors. But I do think there are lots of existing games that could prove interesting enough for many seniors to try them. To be honest, I don't think card games and the like would be a great idea, because one of the reasons seniors play cards to simply to have some social interaction. They would probably wonder why they should play a card game on a screen instead of with other people in the flesh. Just a guess.

Three_ster, I hope you find what you're looking for and I hope some of the suggestions here help you out. Would you care to be more specific about the senior(s) in question for whom you're looking for games?

   
emmit_brown Posted: Feb 15 '06,  9:04 pm           Reply
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quote="emmit_brown"]
Actually, in most cases, elderly people aren't adapted to change; most elderly people do have computers and DVD players. So, sorry about my previously fallible statement. However, I still don't think elderly people would have the patience to get into playing videogames -- a type of entertainment most elderly people think is complete nonsense and stupidity.[
But, that's why I say internet games are the way to go. They are non-platform and easy to get into and utilize great hand-eye coordination (believe it or not). Plus there is a great variety to choose from; I mean they have tens of thousands of sponsored internet games.[

Are you arguing with yourself?


Lol. Yeah, with the other voice in my head. Just messing... No, I just forgot to delete my previous post and rewrite/edit what I previously said. But thanks for noticing...
   
jkafer Posted: Feb 15 '06,  9:31 pm (Updated: Feb 15 '06,  11:09 pm)           Reply
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Quote: B_Campbell
However, plenty of seniors are guitar players themselves, so I wouldn't rule it out completely, and in fact it could be an excellent introduction for a senior who is musically inclined ro who already plays guitar.

So why not just give this person a guitar? What does hooking it up to a Playstation do for them, especially since they probably won't have much interest in the music in the game?

Quote: B_Campbell
I guess what I really wanted to get across is that making a blanket statement that seniors don't adapt well to new technology or new experiences is just ignorant.

While I don't know your girlfriend, if she's basing her assertion on the reactions she gets when she shows up, then she should know that her appearance introduces noise and bias into any experimentation.

It's not a coincidence that patterns in retirement communities are set in stone. Dinner is always the same time. The menu is basically the same from week to week with a few diversions. Bingo night is always the same night. Nurse visits are always the same time. It is a proven fact that the elderly find comfort in their habits and patterns.

Quote: B_Campbell
If you sat down to play a video game with one of these people, they would absolutely love it, not so much for the game but for the fact that you're sitting there and spending some time interacting with them.

You are actually supporting my point. They want stimulation from people, not video games. And this isn't representative of their daily lives. Would grandpa pick up a controller by himself to continue the adventures of Sam Fisher? I seriously doubt it. And that's what we're talking about.

Quote: B_Campbell
To be honest, I don't think card games and the like would be a great idea, because one of the reasons seniors play cards to simply to have some social interaction.

Depends on their location. If they live in a community with other seniors you're probably right. But in the case of my grandmother who lived alone for a good many years, she loved Solitaire on her computer. And had ZERO interest in any games beyond that.
   
three_ster Posted: Feb 15 '06,  9:57 pm           Reply
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Quote: B_Campbell


Three_ster, I hope you find what you're looking for and I hope some of the suggestions here help you out. Would you care to be more specific about the senior(s) in question for whom you're looking for games?


75+ in a retirement community.

--Ryan (three_ster)
   
jkafer Posted: Feb 15 '06,  10:34 pm (Updated: Feb 15 '06,  10:37 pm)           Reply
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Quote: three_ster
75+ in a retirement community.

Then I agree with Mr Campbell's assertion that video card games are probably not going to be well recieved. I'm sure they would much rather play each other than the computer.
   
B_Campbell Posted: Feb 16 '06,  4:12 am           Reply
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Quote: jkafer
You are actually supporting my point.


...that's because I wasn't necessarily arguing with you, Jeff...
   
jkafer Posted: Feb 16 '06,  10:27 am (Updated: Feb 16 '06,  1:17 pm)           Reply
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Quote: B_Campbell
...that's because I wasn't necessarily arguing with you, Jeff...

Sorry, man, you caught me in a mood.

hehe, I'm guessing Ryan is regretting ever asking his question. Someone should have wanred him how us Video game folk are.
   
phungus Posted: Feb 16 '06,  1:57 pm           Reply
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Quit yer bickerin'!

Just buy the old folks a deck of cards, some poker chips, and the board games Scrabble and Monopoly.

   
underdawg Posted: Feb 16 '06,  6:52 pm           Reply
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Maybe some of 'em would like a golf game? Probably not with all the bells 'n whistles of a Tiger Woods, but how about ole' Microsoft Golf? Not to generalize but with how many people play golf, some of them probably miss golf. Maybe Virtua Tennis?

Sorry if this doesn't help but they probably have their fill of Bingo and the like already.

   
jkafer Posted: Feb 16 '06,  8:56 pm           Reply
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Maybe some of 'em would like a golf game? Probably not with all the bells 'n whistles of a Tiger Woods, but how about ole' Microsoft Golf? Not to generalize but with how many people play golf, some of them probably miss golf. Maybe Virtua Tennis?

Sorry if this doesn't help but they probably have their fill of Bingo and the like already.

Actually that's not a half-bad idea.
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