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| becky2259 |
Original Post: Dec 31 '11, 8:24 am |
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Reviews written: 475 Member since: Mar 16, 2003
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Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
I have recently noticed reviews with comments and links stating that the content was stolen or cribbed. When going to the provided links, I have not seen anything stolen or cribbed.
On these reviews it seemed that most raters just followed suit with NH ratings assuming that the links must be proof, but I would urge you to look at the links and judge for yourself before rating NH based on what someone else thought was cribbed or stolen.
If you still think the review is NH but for some other reason, it would be helpful to state your reason in the comments section.
Thanks
Becky
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| ChrisJarmick |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 9:25 am (Updated: Dec 31 '11, 9:25 am) |
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Reviews written: 1232 Member since: Jul 19, 2000
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Good advice
Also look at google. Do a cut and paste from the review into google and see if it directly matches something. Remember every once in a while someone could be copying from themselves (ie a blog that they actually write or an old review site they use to contribute to....even under a different name....though this is rare and applies only to a handful of epinions folks... some of whom are advisors or TRs).
Definitely double check... accusations made in comments for yourself if possible. There have been people making false claims in the past... |
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| dtv_engineer |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 10:45 am |
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Reviews written: 63 Member since: Aug 29, 2004
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Okay, I'm slow!
From the title, I thought maybe someone was plagiarizing the comments themselves. That would be a bizarre twist...
-- Jeff |
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| becky2259 |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 11:13 am |
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Reviews written: 475 Member since: Mar 16, 2003
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RE: Okay, I'm slow!
Quote: dtv_engineer From the title, I thought maybe someone was plagiarizing the comments themselves. That would be a bizarre twist...
-- Jeff
lol I can see how you could read it that way. Sorry was trying to be as descriptive as I could without too many words. Sorry for the mix up :-)
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| carstairs38 |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 12:06 pm |
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Reviews written: 2268 Member since: Oct 3, 2005
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Okay, I'm slow!
From the title, I thought maybe someone was plagiarizing the comments themselves. That would be a bizarre twist...
Mark
What? :)
(In all seriousness, I thought the same thing. The topic of this post is a great warning, however.) |
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| coldsteel7 |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 12:30 pm |
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Reviews written: 1631 Member since: Dec 3, 1999
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RE: Okay, I'm slow!
It looks like Mark was stealing comments in his comment. See what you have started?
John |
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| alexdg1 |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 1:07 pm |
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Reviews written: 1552 Member since: Dec 12, 2003
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RE: Okay, I'm slow!
Quote: dtv_engineer From the title, I thought maybe someone was plagiarizing the comments themselves. That would be a bizarre twist...
-- Jeff
Ha! I thought exactly the same thing! |
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| dtv_engineer |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 1:49 pm |
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Reviews written: 63 Member since: Aug 29, 2004
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RE: Okay, I'm slow!
Quote: carstairs38 From the title, I thought maybe someone was plagiarizing the comments themselves. That would be a bizarre twist...
Mark
What? :)
(In all seriousness, I thought the same thing. The topic of this post is a great warning, however.)
Hi, Mark!
Welcome to Epinions. Take a look at VH reviews...........
Oh, dang. Now I have to go and block myself.
Happy New Year, all!
-- Jeff |
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| dtv_engineer |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 1:50 pm |
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Reviews written: 63 Member since: Aug 29, 2004
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RE: Okay, I'm slow!
Quote: becky2259 lol I can see how you could read it that way. Sorry was trying to be as descriptive as I could without too many words. Sorry for the mix up :-)
Don't be sorry... it was one of the better laughs of the day!
-- Jeff |
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| scmrak |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 3:29 pm (Updated: Dec 31 '11, 3:30 pm) |
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Reviews written: 1849 Member since: Sep 27, 2000
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
Quote: becky2259 I have recently noticed reviews with comments and links stating that the content was stolen or cribbed. When going to the provided links, I have not seen anything stolen or cribbed. Report this to Community Care, including (a) link(s) to the review(s) if possible. One unproven accusation of plagiarism could be an accident; more than one coming from the same member is a pattern of abuse.
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| kevintipple |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 5:10 pm |
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Reviews written: 860 Member since: Jul 31, 2002
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
Assuming it is unproven. I usually go look and have never seen one that led to a link that wasn't plagiarism. |
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| sleeper54 |
Posted: Dec 31 '11, 5:51 pm |
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Reviews written: 609 Member since: Feb 24, 2001
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RE: Okay, I'm slow!
Quote: carstairs38 From the title, I thought maybe someone was plagiarizing the comments themselves. That would be a bizarre twist...
Mark
--snip--
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I am gonna start adding that 'copyright' mark to my comments..!!
I work hard on my comments . . .dang if I am gonna tolerate others stealing my hard work..!!
...tom...
' who never rates based on the plagiarism charges of others without checking them out himself. And yes, I have seen writers accused of plagiarizing himself/herself. . . .'Welcome to Epinions, baby..!! ' |
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| kjell1979 |
Posted: Jan 01 '12, 1:42 am |
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Reviews written: 341 Member since: Jul 30, 2001
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
Another thing to watch out for is when the author updates their reviews. I've had cases where I've pointed out things in their review, they update it then accuse me in the comments section of not reading their review. So at one point the content could have matched what the link was pointing to. |
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| becky2259 |
Posted: Jan 01 '12, 3:51 am |
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Reviews written: 475 Member since: Mar 16, 2003
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
Quote: kjell1979 Another thing to watch out for is when the author updates their reviews. I've had cases where I've pointed out things in their review, they update it then accuse me in the comments section of not reading their review. So at one point the content could have matched what the link was pointing to.
The ones I observed were never updated.
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| GravityGirl |
Posted: Jan 01 '12, 6:38 am |
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Reviews written: 1232 Member since: May 1, 2000
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
I have seen some people who leave comments begin by copying and pasting the review into the comment so that the original content is preserved.
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| pvreditor |
Posted: Jan 01 '12, 8:04 am |
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Reviews written: 426 Member since: May 31, 2002
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
Quote: kjell1979 Another thing to watch out for is when the author updates their reviews. I've had cases where I've pointed out things in their review, they update it then accuse me in the comments section of not reading their review. So at one point the content could have matched what the link was pointing to.
This happened to me. I spotted an exact lift of several paragraphs in a review by a well-known (at the time) Epinions member. I NH'd the review, and left a comment with the link to the plagiarized content.
The author updated the review making enough minor modifications so that the plagiarism was harder to spot. However, the structure of the copied text was still there. The author then left a comment along the lines of, "I don't think so, there's nothing copied here."
That particular author has not been active on Epinions since, as far as I've seen.
--Bob |
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| PattyTherre |
Posted: Jan 01 '12, 1:09 pm |
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Reviews written: 2316 Member since: Oct 9, 2000
in Online Stores & Services, Outdoor Gear, Sporting Goods |
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
Quote: becky2259 The ones I observed were never updated.
Yes I saw this happen as well so please everyone, take a minute to be sure the link provided in comments as proof of a stolen or cribbed review really is valid proof. You know what they say about assuming!
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| golferinfr |
Posted: Jan 01 '12, 3:21 pm |
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Reviews written: 466 Member since: Dec 13, 1999
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
looking for a very detail writer
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| ddustyrose |
Posted: Jan 01 '12, 4:51 pm |
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Reviews written: 536 Member since: Apr 17, 2001
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
Yikes, Bobby! Your profile picture is, um, unusual. :o) |
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| sleeper54 |
Posted: Jan 01 '12, 5:19 pm |
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Reviews written: 609 Member since: Feb 24, 2001
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RE: Warning about stolen/cribbed comments
Quote: GravityGirl I have seen some people who leave comments begin by copying and pasting the review into the comment so that the original content is preserved.
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Copying the entire review has always seemed a bit of 'overkill' to me.
Certainly the point can be made, and documented, by copying some smaller section of the review to document the 'problematic' content. Perhaps the material that was 'googled' to find the 'problem' in the first place.
...tom...
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