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| trailhound |
Original Post: Mar 01 '12, 2:20 pm |
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Viewpoints?
I used to write for Viewpoints and still log in occasionally to update a review. Does anyone still write there?
When I logged in today the whole site was totally changed. I couldn't figure out how to sort my reviews or find any other living being on the site. Looks like the community aspect had been totally wiped out. What did they do to the site??? |
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| pvreditor |
Posted: Mar 02 '12, 4:58 am (Updated: Mar 02 '12, 6:07 am) |
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RE: Viewpoints?
I used to write there as well and last looked at my account a couple weeks ago. It didn't look different then. I'll have to take a look and see what's up.
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I looked and... WOW! It's all different and much more basic there. My guess is that Viewpoints got hammered by the recent Google changes, simply lost its income stream and laid off most of the staff. I used to post several photos with every review, and those photos are no longer visible. That's a real shame, because I thought the photos helped the reviews considerably. The only pictures that remain for my reviews are the actual product photos that I uploaded, a feature that Epinions would be smart to add.
And there are no more forums over there. I was active on VP's forums once, but they got taken over by silly games. So, no more community there.
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| critic64 |
Posted: Mar 03 '12, 11:11 am |
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View Points
I rarely sign in but I did so last week to make sure I wouldn't write the same exact review on epinions. Wow! Was I ever surprised with the changes. I, too, posted many of my photographs on the site and now they are gone. It seems like they are going downhill. I am proud to be a reviewer on epinions, for the caliber of writers is a lot higher than on Viewpoints. Just my two cents. |
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| njchicaa |
Posted: Mar 05 '12, 3:13 pm |
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RE: View Points
They've eliminated many categories (books, TV, music, home furnishings, cars, local, travel, etc.) and have decided to focus on just a few of them like HG, beauty/wellness, kids, electronics, computers, etc. They also are looking for very specific types of product reviews in those categories so a review of a vitamin suppplement would be welcomed in the health area while a review of cough drops or a prescription medication would not.
They also got rid of the "I am" tags, the ability to add photos to reviews, the ability to add products to the catalog, the blogs, the member pages, the community blog, and the discussion boards.
Yes, Google's change seriously impacted their traffic. They ran so many 5 for $5 and 10 for $10 Amazon gift card promos that required just 200 characters (yes characters not words) that Google decided the place didn't contain any valuable information.
I found this article about it last week: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-25/
business/ct-biz-0226-viewpoints-20120225_1_viewpoints-
google-matt-moog
(I had to break that link up into bits in order to be able to post this message. Just take out the breaks) |
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| pvreditor |
Posted: Mar 05 '12, 4:43 pm |
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Quote: njchicaa I found this article about it last week: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-25/etc...
The article is long-winded but it basically says that Viewpoints got hammered by Google's recent changes and laid off much of the staff.
I checked my VP reviews, and still have car, book and movie reviews there -- they might have eliminated the possibility of new reviews but didn't delete the existing reviews. I don't understand why they deleted the photos. I know that many photos posted on VP were awful (out of focus, poorly lit, badly framed, not relevant, etc.), I think that at least most of my photos were helpful. For example, I got several positive comments about a ceiling fan review where I posted a photo that showed exactly where the components went. Now, all the comments and photos are gone. It seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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| njchicaa |
Posted: Mar 05 '12, 4:51 pm |
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RE: View Points
Quote: pvreditor
I checked my VP reviews, and still have car, book and movie reviews there -- they might have eliminated the possibility of new reviews but didn't delete the existing reviews.
They are planning to do so in the future. Several members were told that the categories were going to vanish and that if we wanted to have copies of our reviews in those soon-to-be non-existant categories that they could send us files of them. |
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| njchicaa |
Posted: Mar 05 '12, 5:24 pm |
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RE: View Points
Found this too: http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/03/03/how-google-panda-changed-our-business/ |
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| pvreditor |
Posted: Mar 06 '12, 5:03 am |
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RE: View Points
Quote: njchicaa Found this too: http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/03/03/how-google-panda-changed-our-business/
This article was more interesting to me than the first. Among other things, it was the first time I saw where they clearly got the message that a two-word review has no value.
Thanks for posting these article URLs!
--Bob |
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| trailhound |
Posted: Mar 06 '12, 7:10 am |
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RE: View Points
Wow - I didn't realize the site had so many problems. Thanks for the update. Live by Google...Die by Google.
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| elvisdo |
Posted: Mar 23 '12, 7:49 pm |
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RE: View Points
For some reason I decided to check out Viewpoints again last week and saw the huge change as well. I figured it had something to do with Google's "Kung Fu" Panda. Needless to say it was a shocker because I couldn't even figure out how to navigate through it all.
For all the complaints we have about Epinions, we should be grateful that it has survived and weathered through a lot of obstacles and is STILL standing strong.
~C |
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| talyseon |
Posted: Mar 24 '12, 10:47 am |
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RE: View Points
Quote: elvisdo For some reason I decided to check out Viewpoints again last week and saw the huge change as well. I figured it had something to do with Google's "Kung Fu" Panda. Needless to say it was a shocker because I couldn't even figure out how to navigate through it all.
For all the complaints we have about Epinions, we should be grateful that it has survived and weathered through a lot of obstacles and is STILL standing strong.
~C
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| alexdg1 |
Posted: Apr 05 '12, 3:26 pm |
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RE: Viewpoints?
Quote: pvreditor I used to write there as well and last looked at my account a couple weeks ago. It didn't look different then. I'll have to take a look and see what's up.
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I looked and... WOW! It's all different and much more basic there. My guess is that Viewpoints got hammered by the recent Google changes, simply lost its income stream and laid off most of the staff. I used to post several photos with every review, and those photos are no longer visible. That's a real shame, because I thought the photos helped the reviews considerably. The only pictures that remain for my reviews are the actual product photos that I uploaded, a feature that Epinions would be smart to add.
And there are no more forums over there. I was active on VP's forums once, but they got taken over by silly games. So, no more community there.
--Bob
Nope. I quit in disgust (really) sometime last summer. The site apparently took a huge nosedive when Panda kicked in and punished content sites for all sorts of things (I don't understand the concept so I am going to phrase it thusly) and the owners decided to change Viewpoints radically. |
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| alexdg1 |
Posted: Apr 05 '12, 3:37 pm |
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RE: View Points
Quote: critic64 I rarely sign in but I did so last week to make sure I wouldn't write the same exact review on epinions. Wow! Was I ever surprised with the changes. I, too, posted many of my photographs on the site and now they are gone. It seems like they are going downhill. I am proud to be a reviewer on epinions, for the caliber of writers is a lot higher than on Viewpoints. Just my two cents.
Viewpoints' writing quality went down when they tried "recruiting" anyone with a computer and an Internet connection to write reviews. Yes, they hired experienced reviewers like me (for a pittance) to get some quality reviews up, but otherwise???? What a joke that site became. |
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| trailhound |
Posted: Jun 06 '12, 3:24 pm |
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Viewpoints?
I was going to update a review on my account and it's no longer listed anywhere. Did they delete a lot of them? Too bad - it was one that got a decent number of views. |
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| pvreditor |
Posted: Jun 07 '12, 4:10 am |
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RE: Viewpoints?
Quote: trailhound I was going to update a review on my account and it's no longer listed anywhere. Did they delete a lot of them? Too bad - it was one that got a decent number of views.
Last I looked (a couple weeks ago), about 45 of my reviews on Viewpoints are gone. All my reviews were fairly long and most had photos (in many cases, I supplied the main product photo), so I assume that Viewpoints no longer covers the category for those products. I had a bunch of book and movie reviews, for example, and it's possible those were dropped. They seldom got many views.
--Bob |
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| njchicaa |
Posted: Jun 08 '12, 3:11 pm |
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RE: Viewpoints?
Quote: pvreditor I had a bunch of book and movie reviews, for example, and it's possible those were dropped.
Like I stated earlier, Viewpoints eliminated many categories on the site including books, movies/TV, travel, local places, and even some sub-categories in more popular areas like wellness/beauty and home/garden.
I lost over 500 reviews there due to the way they trimmed the catalog. They also started "rejecting" reviews that I had written on different types of cat treats because they were all lumped together into one listing and it suddenly looked like I was writing duplicate reviews.
I tried to hang in there as long as possible because I was a member there since almost the beginning, but I finally gave up my position there back in April. The categories and inability to add products there provided very limited opportunities for me to still write reviews.
I will be very interested to see what the site looks like in a year or so. Personally, I don't think the drastic changes that they've made are going to help the site. IMO, they are going to hurt it. |
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| littlegigigirl |
Posted: Sep 28 '12, 5:03 am |
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I'm there but I'm not there...
I was a very active member of Viewpoints...I was even a paid writer and Community Liaison. I loved writing in books, movies and music and they eliminated all those categories. I had published almost 1,000 reviews in less than 3 years. I lost about 500 when they purged the initial categories. Then I lost 100-200 when they purged subcategories.
Now the weirdest thing has happened..My profile name is there with all my visits but no reviews! I have googled some the product names that I wrote about and it takes me to a generic page on Viewpoints...
I wish I would have been given the opportunity to save the reviews...I worked long and hard on most reviews, especially the movie and book ones and I even shared them with the authors/cast members on Twitter but now if/when I click on that link there is nothing there to show for my work.
I read all the information about Viewpoints changes and so forth but I think they changed too much. I hate that you now can't find your friends unless you're on Facebook. I just google their screenname and get to them that way.
I guess you can't beat a dead horse BUT you can teach an old dog new tricks and perhaps they should stick with my philosophy: If it ain't broke...don't fix it!! |
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| dolphinboy |
Posted: Sep 28 '12, 11:20 am |
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RE: I'm there but I'm not there...
Quote: littlegigigirl I was a very active member of Viewpoints...I was even a paid writer and Community Liaison. I loved writing in books, movies and music and they eliminated all those categories. I had published almost 1,000 reviews in less than 3 years. I lost about 500 when they purged the initial categories. Then I lost 100-200 when they purged subcategories.
Now the weirdest thing has happened..My profile name is there with all my visits but no reviews! I have googled some the product names that I wrote about and it takes me to a generic page on Viewpoints...
I wish I would have been given the opportunity to save the reviews...I worked long and hard on most reviews, especially the movie and book ones and I even shared them with the authors/cast members on Twitter but now if/when I click on that link there is nothing there to show for my work.
I read all the information about Viewpoints changes and so forth but I think they changed too much. I hate that you now can't find your friends unless you're on Facebook. I just google their screenname and get to them that way.
I guess you can't beat a dead horse BUT you can teach an old dog new tricks and perhaps they should stick with my philosophy: If it ain't broke...don't fix it!!
I write my Epinions reviews in Word, and save them. Then, if a link dies (as one recently did), I have the text ready to go. P.S. I couldn't move the old review because the link only took me to an error message. Googling did nothing. |
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| dolphinboy |
Posted: Sep 28 '12, 11:21 am |
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RE: I'm there but I'm not there...
Are you related to Schrodinger's cat? |
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| littlegigigirl |
Posted: Oct 05 '12, 11:06 am |
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RE: I'm there but I'm not there...
I don't know who that person is so I'm guessing I'm not related. To the best of my knowledge I don't have any family on Twitter or Epinions. All of my family uses Facebook for social networking and I'm the only one that does Twitter rather than FB. |