2.4a Prescott: Don't listen to everything you [H]ear!
Written: May 05 '04
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Pros: Cheap alternative for an Intel system.
Cons: Does not OC nearly as high as reported, at least not this one!
The Bottom Line: Cannot recommend based on this experience. Have read elsewhere that it OC's to 3.33GHz, but not this one!
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While perusing one of my favorite [H]ardware sites, (Yes, that bracketed H is a clue to which site) I saw a review for a new Prescott-based Intel chip that had been released with little fanfare, the 2.4a, running at 2.4GHz with a 533MHz FSB. It came with the increased pipeline length and additional cache of the Big Brother Prescotts, yet it did not have Hyperthreading or the 800MHz FSB that they enjoyed. I read further that this puppy was going to be a great chip for enthusiasts, as the sites reviewer had been able to achieve a 900MHz overclock with this chip on stock cooling and voltage settings. 900MHz, I thought? That is a 3.3GHz chip for the low, low price associated with a 2.4GHz processor! If this was true, I had to try one out
Why did I buy this processor?
I admit, I was caught up in the hype. I wanted a processor to run 900MHz overclocked from its stock speed, and I could do that with the low, low price of $138. I bought some Corsair Value Select PC3200 RAM to go along with the processor and an MSI PT880 NEO-LSR motherboard that is very low dollar and Prescott ready. My other motherboard, the ABIT IS7-E, did not handle the heat of the Prescott 2.8e I had earlier, so I thought it better to try another board. Also, I was going to keep either the 2.4a or the 2.6c I already owned, so may as well buy a start on the complete system that would be for sale!
Specifications:
NOTE: This is the meat and potatoes section for the enthusiast in some of us. This will explain what differentiates this chip from all the rest, and may not be completely interesting to all readers. For those of you who have read my 2.8e Prescott review, some of this will be very similar, but it is worth restating. Some of this is very different, as this is not the typical Prescott, either! If you just want to see how the chip performed, skip down to the Performance section below
Prescott in general
This processor is part of the Prescott family of chips based on the new 90 nm process. Running this small of a process allows for more and more transistors on a smaller or same size die, which allows for more calculations and thus higher performance, in general.
For the Prescott family of chips, Intel increased the integer pipeline from 20 to 31 slots, which in essence slows the processor down. By simply increasing the pipeline length, the processor speed should actually be slower. This is due to the fact that all of these slots are not filled instantaneously with data(latency). If they were, this would actually speed the processor up, as you can now have multiple data threads waiting for further crunching. Not good if they are not filled, but this does allow for higher GHz as well. The estimation is that the Prescott family of chips will be able to top out around 4-5GHz when it is all said and done!
The 90 nm process allows for more cache to be crunched into the smaller die, and thus faster access to frequently used data for the processor to crunch. On-die memory, or cache, is accessed at the speed of the processors rating, in this case 2.4GHz. Compare that to the 533MHz of the FSB, and you can see why more on-die cache is so good! This is also what delineates the Extreme Edition chips from one another; they have a whopping 3MB of L3 cache! It does come at a price, though, as those chips are upwards of $800/each. The end result of this is that since the Prescott holds 1024Kb of L2 cache(twice as much as the previous Northwood cores at 512kb), this processor should be faster than the previous core.
The smaller process, while decreasing costs, also added additional transistors on the chip, as mentioned above. This allows for faster speeds, but also generates heat. The heat generated has to be moved away by an active heat sink and fan or else the processor will fry! In the olden days (not actually too long ago) a simple heat sink would suffice. Soon we will need a watercooling unit or refrigeration unit for every home computer, and that is just for the processor! It may be a while before that statement is a reality, but you certainly dont want to lock your computer in a small, low airflow cabinet anymore!
The Prescott family of processors introduce two other items, a new branch predictor (which is supposedly better) and SSE3, 13 new built in directions that the programmers can use to speed up their systems in the future. The branch predictor was actually needed to help make the increased integer pipeline run faster, as without this and the increased L2 cache these processors would have been abysmally slow. The SSE3 instructions may help out in the future, but for now they are not used very much.
What about the 2.4a in particular?
As I said above, this chip is not your everyday Prescott. The differences noticed are in Front Side Bus (FSB) and HyperThreading (HT).
FSB
Front side bus is the speed at which your processor talks to your RAM, and the higher it is the faster your bandwidth. The faster your bandwidth, the faster your computer performs. RAM is the Random Access Memory sticks that you have in your system, and they are essential to run any system. Remember the L2 cache? There is only 1MB there, and the processor runs so many calculations that it needs a secondary storage facility for data. RAM is that storage facility. The processor sends intermediate data to the RAM and calls for it when needed. Both sides of this transaction take place across the FSB, so the faster, the better.
The Big Brother Prescotts, of which I have owned the 2.8e, use a FSB of 800MHz. The newer Northwood cores, of which I currently own the 2.6c, also run at this 800MHz FSB. If you overclock one of these processors to 250MHz system clock(which I have done with both of these processors), this gives you an effective FSB of 1000MHz, or 1GHz. This is because the FSB of an Intel P4 is quad pumped. (250*4 = 1000, see?) This works out to amazing bandwidth/performance, as with Dual Channel PC4000 RAM I have seen up to 5900MB/s of data transferred across the FSB.
In the case of this little brother, they rated the FSB at 533MHz, which means the system clock is only starting out at 133MHz(133*4=533). This means that your bandwidth will never be as high as the Big Brother Prescotts or Northwoods with 200MHz system clock, or 800MHz FSB. However, this chip also costs less, and you can pair it up with some nice PC2700 or PC3200 at overclocking speeds, either of which is much cheaper than the PC4000 for the higher speed chips. This means that you can get great performance for less money
HyperThreading
Hyperthreading technology allows the OS to simulate two processors, and thus have multiple task threads working at one time. The intel website can explain it much better than I:
http://www.intel.com/personal/do_more/demos/ht.htm
My experience with the Hyperthreading so far is neither positive nor negative. I have noticed no difference in my usage with or without the Hyperthreading enabled with my 2.6c or 2.8e. The fact that this processor does not have it does not bother me in the slightest, but if you are building a computer to last you the long haul, this may be a deal breaker for you.
Performance
I received the processor, motherboard and RAM from Newegg.com and immediately shut down my computer and set about to take out the old, put in the new and start back up. The remainder of the system is at the bottom of this review for you to see. I booted, ran WinBond Hardware Doctor and started running SisSoft Sandra.
Under stock conditions, the computer ran the following benchmarks: (in all cases, higher is better)
2.4GHz, RAM at 400MHz with ratio:
Drystone benchmark: 6339 MIPS
Whetstone benchmark: 2964 MFLOPS
Integer SSE2 Bench: 13499 it/s
Float SSE2 Bench: 15490 it/s
RAM Int Bandwidth: 3289 MB/s
RAM Float Bandwidth: 3339MB/s
All of these are respectable, although somewhat less than a 2.4c or even a 2.4b! However, the beauty of this chip was in the OC, and that was why I bought it
Overclocking
I cranked the FSB up little by little, taking the stock voltage up from 1.38V to 1.425V. I was able to achieve an overclock of 160MHz for the system clock and still post Windows and run programs. This is a FSB of 160*4 = 640MHz and a processor speed of 160 * 2.88GHz. What? Is that it? I know that not every processor in a speed bin will OC like all the rest, but that was pretty ridiculous
2.88GHz, RAM at 400 MHz with 5/4 ratio:
Drystone benchmark: 7639 MIPS
Whetstone benchmark: 3566 MFLOPS
Integer SSE2 Bench: 16258 it/s
Float SSE2 Bench: 18621 it/s
RAM Int. Bandwidth: 3905 MB/s
RAM Float Bandwidth: 3959 MB/s
Much, much better, but I was really hoping for a 185MHz system clock, which would be a FSB of 185*4 = 740 and a processor speed of 3.33GHz. I started thinking that maybe it was the PC3200 RAM, so I installed my PC4000 and retried. No Luck! Next thought was that the motherboard could be holding me back, so I went online and looked for any issues. I found out that I didnt have the most up to date BIOS for the board, and lo and behold on the MSI website it stated that the new BIOS helped Prescott chips perform better! Jackpot!
I downloaded and flashed the BIOS and tried again. Once again, No Luck! Thinking that maybe the motherboard was the culprit, I traded out to my ABIT IS7-E with my Zalman CNPS70000-Cu aftermarket air cooler, and tried again. No Luck, yet again. I had to face facts; I had a processor that could not overclock nearly as high as the website I had read that interested me in the first place
To be fair, a 480MHz Overclock is 20% higher than the original rating of this chip, so I shouldnt be too depressed. The chip at 2.88GHz is comparable to a 2.8GHz Northwood in terms of Arithmetic benchmarks, but in terms of Multimedia benchmarks it doesnt even top the 2.66b at stock speeds. If this was able to hit 3.33GHz, I would have been much more impressed, and probably would think hard about keeping the processor.
One item of note, the heat generated by this Prescott was nowhere near as much as that produced by the 2.8e I had a month or so ago. This processor under load and overclocked never broke the 55 degree Celcius mark. The 2.8e I had earlier would run this temp idle with no OC at all! Looks like they got the heat figured out for this one
On that note, the 2.4a has a very interesting stock heat sink fan combination. The heat sink actually has a copper core with aluminum fins. The previous heat sinks I had seen on Pentium chips had all aluminum construction. The reason for the copper core? Better thermal conductivity. The heat is dissipated from the chip into the copper, and then the heat is transferred to the aluminum fins to be dissipated by the attached fan. Another innovation with this is that it has a variable speed fan that speeds up to dissipate heat as the processor heats up. This is done via a sensor in the air space between the fins to protect the processor under load, and maintain quiet conditions while idle. Pretty nice looking!
Conclusion
I have gone back to my trusty 2.6c with the PC4000 RAM and IS7-E motherboard. I am buying the remaining products needed to complete this system and will then sell it off to a gaming/office user in the future. The Hyperthreading means little to me, but the low overclock and therefore lower FSB does force me to go back to the 2.6c. I was really quite unimpressed with this chip!
I would not recommend this to anyone looking to run at stock speeds, nor for overclocking. You can achieve a higher FSB and overclock with a good 2.4c Northwood core, resulting in higher bandwidth and better performance. The only reason to buy this chip would be to maintain low cost for the system, as the chip, mobo and memory I used was only $310. My system with the 2.6c, PC4000 RAM and mobo cost $639. I would still recommend going with the 2.4c with some good PC4000 and a decent motherboard, such as the IS7-E or the PT880 NEO-LSR. This will give you better stock performance and the overclocking capability I was looking for!
Benchmarks, for those that are interested
Interested in knowing how your CPU stacks up in benchmarks? Here are some links to benchmarks I use:
Pifast: Pi Fast is a program that tests your CPU by loading it. It will calculate the value of Pi to as many digits as you want and then report to you the time it takes to do so. The lower the better. My current best score is 43 seconds to calculate to 10,000,000 digits.
http://numbers.computation.free.fr/Constants/PiProgram/pifast.html
3dMark benchmarks: There are four, to be exact, that I use from 3dMark. 3dMark2001SE and 3d2003 are graphics engine benchmarks, while PCMark2002 and PCMark2004 are benchmarks for the CPU, Memory and Harddrive.
http://www.futuremark.com/
Aquamark: This is simply one that will benchmark your graphics engine.
http://www.aquamark3.com/
UT2003: Unreal Tournament 2003 is a graphics engine test as well. It is also a fee downloadable game that is pretty awesome.
http://www.unrealtournament.com/
SisSoft Sandra 2004, used for this review can be found at the following website:
http://www.sisoftware.net/
Finally, Prime95: Prime 95 is not a benchmark, but a test for stability of your system. You run this program for an extended period of time, and it will torture your CPU and RAM. If you are at all unstable, this will find it before anything else.
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm
Other reviews of interest:
Pentium 4 system
Abit IS7-E mobo
P4 2.6c processor
Corsair PC4000 TwinX XMS 1024MB DDR memory
eVGA.com 5900SE
Western Digital 80GB SE Harddrive
Seagate 120GB Harddrive
AMD System I have since sold
Abit NF7-M motherboard
AMD 2500 processor
Corsair PC3200 TwinX 512MB DDR memory ATI Radeon 9600XT video card
Western Digital 160GB hard drive
I hope this helps you to make your decision, and please rate or leave a comment. Feel free to write as well!
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