Pros: Cushioning, heel to forefoot transition, arch lock, SRC, fit.
Cons: A bit more stiff in heel compared to previous model. Other than that none.
The Bottom Line:
Since I believe Saucony makes better models, I have to say I don't approve 100% of the T5 however, if not comparing to the T4, it's still a great shoe.
alphaproject's Full Review: Saucony Progrid Triumph 5 Running Shoes Orange
Got these as a gift.
Prior shoes worn from Saucony include the Triumph 1, Trigon 1 Support version, Omni Moderate 3, Triumph 4, and the Propel NxGen.
I still wear the Triumph 4's and Propels and everynow and then I wear the Triumph 1's because they are in near perfect condition. I'm more of a collector than a runner but I appreciate what Saucony has to offer more than Nike or any other show creator after I got used to how they have a near perfect heel to toe transition.
The Triumph 4 version brand new was like pillows. I had never felt a better shoe straight out of the box since the Brooke T2 (Tsunami) which I couldn't wear because something rubbed on my pinky toe inside the toebox. I've had many, many Nike's to compare to but nothing really matched Saucony, certainly not the Triumph 4.
I also forgot to mention the shoe that made me love Saucony, the Grid Swerve. It was not made nearly as cushioned as the Triumph, but it had a GREAT heel grid system that really allowed your heel to sink and be supported at the same time. The front however was too soft and wore away VERY quickly. I was down to the the cushion in that shoe.
Now comes the Triumph 5. Here is what it adds to the Triumph 4 as far as improvements.
Better Archlock..... if not an actually working arch lock all together. Never noticed it in the 4th version even though it's stated as being there.
A bit more tread and a harder feeling compound. Not by much, but I believe the tread on these will last a bit longer.
A slightly tighter fit all around but not too tight as in the Saucony Triumph 1.
The overall build quality seems better as a whole. The Arch support is more inside than outside.
What is not really improved but different.
The rear end is completely different. I think they wanted to give the rear end a flatter response. It's not what I would call worse, just different. In the 4th version, the shoe's rear end literally bends to your step...I really liked it, but it's a loose ride. You really don't feel the road in the 4th version.... if you like or dislike that, that's up to you. The 5th version, you will feel more response from the shoe but it's still a huge amount of cushion. I've seen a few reviews on the 4th shoe where people thought it wasn't responsive.....which it isn't. It's all about full blown cushion....which I like. The 5th shoe takes a step in that other direction and lets you keep some stability without being a stability shoe.
I don't understand why I read on some sites about the HATE over the T5 versions....it's close to the T4, just a tad more solid, but by no means bad. They are very close for a lighter runner such as myself. I am 125-130 pounds.
The shoe still used SRC / super rebound compound in the rear pads and compression molded EVA for a soft ride.
The T4 has a wider rear end which is better.....keeps your foot from rolling outwards better. The T4/T5 inner rear is just as good at keeping your foot from rolling inwards.
The front are both great.
So the major difference between these shoes is the heel cushioning unit. The T5 seems to want to propel you forward more while as the T4 seems to want you to sink and be cushioned more. As far as just walking in them, I'd go with the T4. I think that in the new top of the Line Paramount 2.... they went straight back to the heel of the T4 because it was so good and highly reviewed as being awesome. I agree. Perhaps it adds other elements to it, but it's also $170 shoe.
So even though the T5 is now outdated....it's a good backup shoe and will hold up better than the T4, but if I had to pick the T4 or T5, I'd say T4 for walking.....T5 for running only. The T4 for lighter people too.....the T5 for perhaps 150 pounds up to 185.
Also looking at the cushioning side by side.... it's not much different from the T4 to T5....but, it feels alot different, very strange.
Another day passed and I do realize I had to update the heel cushioning unit. It's nothing like the T4 or even Propel. Much more solid, in fact a bit too solid for my liking when general walking is involved. I have not ran except into a Walgreens parking lot...and they didn't feel anything, anything like the T4. Maybe the T4 was just so soft it's impossible to give any other show a chance, I don't know..... I think since I'm very light, they were perfect for me. The propels are also very soft. There is no SRC and no gimmicks with the Propel shoes though so when they were down, they will not hold up as well as the Triumphs....at least that's my guess. Once cushion goes flat....it's done, SRC however, lasts alot longer.
I believe it's due to the crash pads being smaller and more dense....It feels as though the pads are not as soft, nor as flexible. I also noticed they do not move as freely as the T4 pads, which is why the shoe runs more stiff in the heel. The transition is really the same (heel to forefoot) but less bouncy. IF I could just combine the front of the Propel, and upper build from the T5 with the T4 crash pads in the heel I would and be soooo happy. LOL....they should make that an option, build your perfect shoe. $$$$$$
Another update: Compared to my solid Nike AirMax 360 which are dead weight and solid even compared to these, the T5 is awesome. I think I must rethink how solid these are and I really wonder just how good were the T4's.
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