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A Black History Month focus on a WWII desert action flick
by Stephen_Murray | Feb 24 '06
Pros: Maté's cinematography, Bogart, Ingram, Naish
Cons: sags in the middle

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Product Rating: 4.0



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by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
The Gambia was the British colony surrounded on three sides by the French colony of Senegal.

There are black Muslims in the Sudan, not just Arabs.

I thought that "Captain Corelli's Mandolin" was a pretty bad movie. Although many Italians were uncomfortable with Prussian (or even Austrian) ways, I think that in Hollywood and elsewhere there has been a downplaying of the fact that Italy was fascist longer than Germany was Nazi and that there was widespread support in Italy for invading Absynnia, etc. When Americans and Brits landed (and it was the Free Poles who eventually took Montecassino, if I remember correctly), there ceased to be any Italians who had supported Mussolini, just as after the war there was no one in Germany who could be found who said they had supported Hitler.
Apr 29 '07
6:25 am PDT

Re: Re: Re: Hey (Reply to this comment)
by colonialpara
I just re-watched this movie and Rex Ingram refers to the Black soldier as a "British Sudanese. Today, he'd probably be one of the many thousands murdered by the Islamic Arabs who run Sudan (what with being a Christian or an animist, the Arabs have been killing them with impunity.)

BTW, Senegal was a FRENCH colony on the "west" coast of the continent. The population there was entirely Black, whereas Sudan was a mixture of Arabs and Blacks.

The soundtrack on the re-mastered DVD is very clear and Bogie refers to Tambul as a "British soldier, entitled to share in the rations and water..."


I always felt for J. Carrol Naish's character. Far too many of the Italian soldiers in the war were poorly led, poorly equipped and misled into war by the megalomaniac Mussolini.

An interesting movie that reveals the distrust between the Germans and Italians is Captain Corelli's Mandolin which starred Nicholas Cage.


Paul
Apr 28 '07
4:54 pm PDT

Re: Re: Hey (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
Thanks for the hardware explanation. If Rex Ingram had said "Sudanese," I would have understood, but he says "Senegalese."

Mar 21 '06
1:20 pm PST

Re: Hey (Reply to this comment)
by colonialpara
Tambul was a British Sudanese soldier from the British colony then known as the Anglo-Egyptian Sudan.

The RA Medical Corps Doctor correctly identifies the African sergeant as he approaches the tank with his Italian prisoner.

Paul Connors
Mar 17 '06
8:02 am PST

Stephen (Reply to this comment)
by colonialpara
Lulubelle is actually an M3 Grant tank and a hybrid one at that. It carried a 75 mm pintle/chin mount gun in the hull and a 37 mm gun in the turret. Coaxial to the the 37 mm (considered the main gun due it being in the turret) was a 30 cal. air cooled Browning machine gun. Another was mounted in the hull for use by the driver. The commander also had one next to his hatch.

The early versions of these tanks were considered death traps by both the British and American crews because the enlarged hull was riveted and not welded. In a tank battle with German Panthers, the early Grants were at a huge disadvantage because the German main guns had higher muzzle velocities and their rounds, even if they didn't explode inside and kill the crew would oftentimes cause the rivets in the hull to dislodge at high speeds, thereby becoming bullets themselves.

The other problem with the Grant and Sherman tanks was their reliance on radial aircraft engines as their power packs, fueled by avgas. As the movie shows, they were often difficult to start, in the desert would foul easily and when they were hit, the avgas, highly flammable, would ignite, disabling or completely destroying the tank and the crew.

It wasn't until the M46 Pershing tank, introduced very late in WW II that the U.S. Army had a tank with a diesel engine and a 90 mm gun that could go head-to-head with German Panthers and Tigers (or Russian T-34s later in Korea.

I know this film was supposed to be wartime propaganda, and I first saw it as a young boy in the early 60s, but I have to admit that I still enjoy it to this day.

Paul Connors
Mar 17 '06
7:59 am PST

Re: Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
Thanks for the three cheers, and the explanation. BTW, I meant to re-view and review "The Emperor Jones," but my movie-viewing in February was curtailed by being gone (and then food-poisoned).

Mar 11 '06
9:03 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:12 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

Bravo! (Reply to this comment)
by macresarf1
I was wondering how you were going to bring in Black History Month. Rex Ingram, like Paul Robeson, was such a commanding actor. A point not often made is that Ingram had been in England making THE THIEF OF BAGDAD, and he returned to America with Alexander Korda's team when the Blitz stopped production. After THE THIEF OF BAGDAD was completed here, it was then natural that Ingram became enfolded in Zoltan Korda's propaganda effort, brought about because the British company was stuck in Hollywood.

Well done.

Alex
Mar 11 '06
1:11 am PST

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by virtuelle2
Very forward-looking film for its time, it seems. Never hear of this, but will keep an eye out for it on Netflix queue. Thanks!

-T.
Feb 26 '06
9:51 am PST

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by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
It really sags in the middle and is more than a little hard to believe throughout.
Feb 25 '06
2:59 pm PST

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by WilliamJones
I like this one more than you. So I'm not very comforted by the 3.6, knowing you rounded up. Rounding up to five might have been a bit much, but it's a solid four in my book.

Good write-up, as usual.

-William
Feb 25 '06
2:36 pm PST

Re: Hey (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, Stephen_Murray is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
Thanks. The British colony of Senegal was too confusing to me. The Gambia was a British colony adjacent to that part of French Equatorial Africa. The integration of his character is notable (indeed, you noted it in your review years ago).
Feb 24 '06
2:49 pm PST

Hey (Reply to this comment)
by George_Chabot, George_Chabot is an Advisor on Epinions in Movies
in your first paragraph you incorrectly identify Ingram's character as Sudanese, while you later correctly call him out as Senegalese, a French colony. Good job, bud! Thanks for calling attention to this little gem. I like it a lot, also. :>
Feb 24 '06
2:16 pm PST
   

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