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Re: ............. (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket,  in Movies
Marc,
I was going to go through the comments here, and see if anyone had something similar to say, but then there were millions of comments....
Most of them all say the same thing:
"That Ashton Kutcher sure is beeeeoooooteeeful!"
Seems that everyone was having a breakdown that day.
The butterfly effect, and or chaos theory in general, doesn't necessarily have to be something so small as a butterfly flapping its wings creating something so grand as a tornado. It only has to be some action starting a progressive chain which results in change which is far more drastic than seems predictable.
If memory serves (and it may not - it's been a while and I couldn't find the quote anywhere) I was referring mostly to the quoted definition of chaos theory at the beginning of the movie - which is the standard - "butterfly flaps its wings in Manila, tornado appears in Kansas" type deal. The results are all pretty predictable as well. There are a handful of bad things that could happen as a result of his meddling, and the ones chosen aren't really that surprising.
That doesn't mean the movie as a whole doesn't work - I think it does, pretty well. In fact, it might not have worked as well if they hadn't chosen the bigger issues to change. A little dramatic license is allowed, even with theories of the inner workings of the universe. Maybe especially with those.
it seems that it is rather surprising and dramatic for even a 'big' decision that is singular in nature to turn people down utterly different paths.
It isn't though. The events they choose are guaranteed to turn people down different paths. In fact, that's why they're chosen. Ack, I'd give an example but I don't want to have a spoiler in here.
At any rate, I'd skipped this one with a serious effort until now, but I think I'll have to check it out. I try to avoid Ashton if possible, but if you say the movie has some merit (and Jack does too), I'll take a look at it.
I was totally skeptical and prepared to find the entire exercise ludicrous. I mean, come on - Ashton Kutcher?!? But it's rather intriguing and quite well done. Watch for the great turns by Stoltz and the guy who plays Kutcher's father. And I recommend the director's cut over the theatrical one.
Also, there is a movie called 'Happenstance' with Audrey Tautou which is more along the lines of what you might have expected from this movie, without the scariness. I think it's original French title is even something like the same as this one. It follows the fleeting actions of ordinary life.
I love her - I'll have to add the film to my gargantu-queue. Thanks for the recommendation.
Sue
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Aug 17 '05
8:55 pm PDT
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............. (Reply to this comment)
by Vormancian
So, I'm going through a bunch of older reviews that I've missed.
I was going to go through the comments here, and see if anyone had something similar to say, but then there were millions of comments....
At any rate, all I was going to say was that I wonder if you aren't being a little bit unfair in criticizing the title of the movie. The butterfly effect, and or chaos theory in general, doesn't necessarily have to be something so small as a butterfly flapping its wings creating something so grand as a tornado. It only has to be some action starting a progressive chain which results in change which is far more drastic than seems predictable. I haven't seen the movie, so I don't exactly how this works out, but it seems that it is rather surprising and dramatic for even a 'big' decision that is singular in nature to turn people down utterly different paths. While following the chain of something so innocuous as mailing a letter to its conclusion is an example, so too is following the chain of some larger event (divorce say), especially if that chain similarly leads to something that seems inordinately 'large' and/or unpredictable (the destruction of an economy, or a war, or someone turning into a raving lunatic).
At any rate, I'd skipped this one with a serious effort until now, but I think I'll have to check it out. I try to avoid Ashton if possible, but if you say the movie has some merit (and Jack does too), I'll take a look at it.
Also, there is a movie called 'Happenstance' with Audrey Tautou which is more along the lines of what you might have expected from this movie, without the scariness. I think it's original French title is even something like the same as this one. It follows the fleeting actions of ordinary life.
Cheers!
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Aug 16 '05
7:22 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: At exactly what point... (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Pippa,
Sure you could, until that big copyright notice at the end of the film popped up.
Yeah. I like to think of those years as estimates, like it was made sometime around 1994, but most likely way after. Self-delusion is a powerful tool.....
Blue's Room is some sort of bastard love child of Blue's Clues where Blue has some special key that takes her to a room where she becomes a Muppet and can talk. Live guests occasionally pop in. It's truly horrifying.
Good. Lord. Do these people have no shame at all? It was bad enough making me watch every single episode of the original time after time after time after time after damn time, but now they had to do this? A talking Blue muppet - maybe they'll make a show where Steve or whoever it is now can't talk. Maybe then it would all be worth it. Can you tell I overdosed on Blue's Clues?
*sob* Not The Breakfast Club. Anything but The Breakfast Club. My entire teen years... up in smoke just like that!
I'm sorry. I know exactly how you feel. But cheer up - it turns out the Claire ages really badly!
Sue
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Mar 29 '05
10:01 pm PST
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Re: hey there... (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Tom,
As I was reading through all the older reviews of this one I came to yours and found somehow I had rated it [Not Helpful].
With quite the disparaging comment left..!
I think that was during your incarnation as an outraged "That 70's Show" fan.....
I am not quite sure what you could have possibly done to upset me so but I am sure it was your fault and not mine.
Clearly. I hope so, at least. I wouldn't like to think you'd changed the world and made me nice. Ew....
Wait . . .the room is going all 'wiggly wobbly' again...!
Hmm, I wonder what he'll turn up as next......
Sue
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Mar 29 '05
9:54 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: At exactly what point... (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Sue,
Okay, what exactly is Blue's Room? I was heartened to recently see Eric Stolz in a more acceptable whacked out drug dealer role. Of course the movie is ten years old, but I can pretend it isn't.
Sure you could, until that big copyright notice at the end of the film popped up.
Blue's Room is some sort of bastard love child of Blue's Clues where Blue has some special key that takes her to a room where she becomes a Muppet and can talk. Live guests occasionally pop in. It's truly horrifying.
As for what's next - "The Breakfast Club - Achieving Popularity in Your Assisted Living Facility"
*sob* Not The Breakfast Club. Anything but The Breakfast Club. My entire teen years... up in smoke just like that!
~ pippa
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Mar 28 '05
1:44 am PST
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hey there... (Reply to this comment)
by sleeper54,  in Movies
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As I was reading through all the older reviews of this one I came to yours and found somehow I had rated it [Not Helpful].
With quite the disparaging comment left..!
I am not quite sure what you could have possibly done to upset me so but I am sure it was your fault and not mine.
I have obviously changed the rate and removed the comment but . . ..
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Wait . . .the room is going all 'wiggly wobbly' again...!
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Mar 27 '05
5:12 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: At exactly what point... (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Pippa,
Mary Stuart Masterson on Blue's Room, Eric Stolz playing fathers... what's next? The Outsiders: The Golden Years?
Okay, what exactly is Blue's Room? I was heartened to recently see Eric Stolz in a more acceptable whacked out drug dealer role. Of course the movie is ten years old, but I can pretend it isn't.
As for what's next - "The Breakfast Club - Achieving Popularity in Your Assisted Living Facility"
Sue
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Mar 24 '05
9:06 pm PST
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Re: Re: At exactly what point... (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
Sue,
About the same time me, my walker and my hearing aid did. I still think of him like he was in "Some Kind of Wonderful". If it's any consolation, his kids in the movie are young.
Yeah, it isn't any consolation to me, either.
No consolation here either. Mary Stuart Masterson on Blue's Room, Eric Stolz playing fathers... what's next? The Outsiders: The Golden Years?
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Mar 23 '05
2:46 pm PST
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Re: Kutcher (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Helene,
Yeah, I really didn't understand all the snarky "Kutcher can't act his way out of a paper bag" comments I read in the media. I actually thought he was pretty good in this...
I agree. It's like they wanted so bad for the pretty boy to fail that they couldn't even give him a begrudging nod. He did well - it's not like he was called on to be Citizen Kane. It's a thriller, and he did pretty good.
Thanks for stopping to comment!
Sue
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Dec 17 '04
10:45 pm PST
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Kutcher (Reply to this comment)
by helenekhoffman
Ashton Kutcher does a good job with the role, as well. Make no mistake; this performance does not mark his blazing entrance into the world of elite actors, but he acquits himself admirably. He doesn't break character, keeping up with the frantic changes his character undergoes as the film picks up speed.
Yeah, I really didn't understand all the snarky "Kutcher can't act his way out of a paper bag" comments I read in the media. I actually thought he was pretty good in this...
-Helene
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Dec 16 '04
10:11 am PST
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Re: good one (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Jan,
You make a valid point about the title being misleading and also that it's about time-travel. I focussed on how disturbing it was to me in my post and didn't recommend it. Interesting that you do, but well defended.
I like time travel stories. If they're done with an appropriate amount of thriller-esque qualities. There were parts that were definitely disturbing - particularly in reference to his childhood friends, but I didn't find it too disturbing overall.
Sue
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Dec 08 '04
10:14 pm PST
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good one (Reply to this comment)
by jankp
You make a valid point about the title being misleading and also that it's about time-travel. I focussed on how disturbing it was to me in my post and didn't recommend it. Interesting that you do, but well defended.
Jan
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Dec 07 '04
3:49 am PST
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Re: At exactly what point... (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Pippa,
did I become SO OLD that Eric Stolz is playing FATHERS? Geritol, take me away.
About the same time me, my walker and my hearing aid did. I still think of him like he was in "Some Kind of Wonderful". If it's any consolation, his kids in the movie are young.
Yeah, it isn't any consolation to me, either.
Sue
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Dec 05 '04
5:29 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Comment (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Marie,
I don't listen to too many commentaries, but I have some. The ones I did listen to I did enjoy.
The only one where I've listened to a lot of the commentary is on the LOTR movies. Those are fun, and we own them. Everything else goes back soon enough that I don't get around to it.
Sue
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Dec 05 '04
5:26 pm PST
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At exactly what point... (Reply to this comment)
by pippadaisy
... did I become SO OLD that Eric Stolz is playing FATHERS? Geritol, take me away.
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Dec 04 '04
6:47 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Comment (Reply to this comment)
by dragonfire88, in Movies
I like to watch alternate endings, bloopers and interviews. The audio commentary is something I don't have a lot of patience for. Again, it involves watching the entire movie again - something I don't want to do.
I go for about the same things usually. Sometimes I watch the making of things and other times I don't. I don't listen to too many commentaries, but I have some. The ones I did listen to I did enjoy.
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Dec 04 '04
12:48 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Andy,
ewwwww... did you know dogs eat grass to make themselves barf? i've always found that kinda cool, yet kinda sadistic at the same time.
Cats do it too. Or if they don't go outside, they chew on the artificial Christmas tree. They don't seem to be able to tell the difference.
wow, that sure is impressive. that must've taken a long time to build. but don't you have, like, a job, and stuff?
I do. A job and a big bunch of stuff. But that doesn't stop me from playing with Legos and taking naps. It's all about staying up until three in the morning. Being nocturnal is the best.
plus, you've got all your epinions' comment sections to keep track of. we all know how much of a struggle that is.
True, it is a struggle. Yet I need my daily doses of sarcasm, snark and innuendo. I'm trying to train the children on the sarcasm and snark thing, but they're far too young to have achieved an adequately high level in these areas. I'm a snarkasm junkie.
i was tempted to break out the stuff after reminiscing about it the other day.
See? Lego is forever. Before you know it, you'll be building Hogwarts.
ummm yeah. although it might still be difficult for you to depict how a guy gets pregnant. how IS that done again?
It's a complicated process involving delusions and alcohol. The puppets are really good at that part of the program.
same with me, but it's usually beer, or spirits of some sort (i can't stand wine - paint-stripper-ish, ugh), and it doesn't make me forget about diapers, but about parts of nights that i wish i could remember the morning after. i hate it...
See, I usually stick with wine - having drunk most of the beer in the city while in college. It doesn't all taste like vomit, only most.
Congratulations on those forgotten nights, too. Are you absolutely sure you don't live in Wisconsin?
yeah, i remember the time when i thought you were all nice and fluffy and wouldn't say a bad word (subliminal or not) to anyone.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha! *cough* *splutter* I mean, yes! That's me!
although who could blame me after seeing the gleeful innocence of your face in that profile picture?
The picture is deceptive, isn't it? I should put one up that more truly reflects the inner me. I'm not sure if I should go with this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/lancashire/fun_stuff/images/jobs270.jpg
(inner nerd)
Or this:
http://frostmoon.itgo.com/dominatrix.gif
(inner cruel and heartless dictator/dominatrix)
It's a tough call.
would you like me to put one on?
Yes.
and take a picture?
Yes.
and post it on epinions so that you can make fun of it?
Yes.
you might have trouble with the whole 'scottish' thing -- 'cos scottish people are cool, and hard to pick faults with.
Then kilts it is!
gee that was a funny typo. or was it? if it wasn't, i'm worried!
It was actually a typo, but I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in the North Woods, someone was brewing up a batch of bear beer right now. It's a scary state.
well i guess i better trot back off to my innocent, snark and innuendo-free comment sections in future then? ah, who am i kidding...
Not me, snarky-boy. Choir boy my a......
Sue
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Dec 03 '04
4:29 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Tao of Pupa (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Mike-cage,
Yes, and please don't make fun; it's not a trifling matter. I'm thinking of pressing charges, so the offending party gets thrown in custard-y.
Booooo! Pun prison for you, mister. And you know what that means - solitary confinement in your man-cage.
A good nap is always wise use of either time or space.
Amen. *bows head* *falls asleep*
What am I?
You mean besides Canuckian? I think that you are a winter. Which makes sense, living on the tundra as you do.
And I heard that snarkasm is the new sincerity. But I'm not sure if I should believe it.
No, it's a lie. Sincerity is the new snarkasm. Just not here.
Boil? You should know by now that the best way to eat a Canadian is to top him (it) in curds and gravy. Yum.
You know that means being peeled and sliced into fry shaped pieces, don't you? Are you sure you wouldn't prefer a simple boiling? Besides, cavemen had no access to curds. Unless they were Wisconsin cavemen. In which case they were drunk and forgot to eat you completely.
True enough. Brown is the new stain-resistant g-string.
Well, you now what they say:
"What can Brown do for you?"
*head explodes*
I love it when my plans work.
Suencerity, the new brown
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Dec 03 '04
4:07 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by andym173
sue,
I love the beast when he isn't barfing on the carpet.
ewwwww... did you know dogs eat grass to make themselves barf? i've always found that kinda cool, yet kinda sadistic at the same time.
I'll get it back one day when he's old enough to think he's outgrown it and young enough not to realize that he'll never outgrow it.
wow, that sure is impressive. that must've taken a long time to build. but don't you have, like, a job, and stuff? plus, you've got all your epinions' comment sections to keep track of. we all know how much of a struggle that is. and yeah, you're right about never outgrowing lego. i was tempted to break out the stuff after reminiscing about it the other day.
Do I need to get out the hand puppets for a little refresher course?
ummm yeah. although it might still be difficult for you to depict how a guy gets pregnant. how IS that done again?
I've blocked diapers from my memory. I use wine to do that - it works really really well.
same with me, but it's usually beer, or spirits of some sort (i can't stand wine - paint-stripper-ish, ugh), and it doesn't make me forget about diapers, but about parts of nights that i wish i could remember the morning after. i hate it...
I'm usually so subtle and they go and reveal my secret sarcastic gene.
yeah, i remember the time when i thought you were all nice and fluffy and wouldn't say a bad word (subliminal or not) to anyone. although who could blame me after seeing the gleeful innocence of your face in that profile picture? ;)
If you wear a kilt can I make fun of that? Or your general Scottishness?
ah, i've only worn a kilt twice in my life. would you like me to put one on? and take a picture? and post it on epinions so that you can make fun of it? you might have trouble with the whole 'scottish' thing -- 'cos scottish people are cool, and hard to pick faults with.
where we drink bear
gee that was a funny typo. or was it? if it wasn't, i'm worried!
It's no place for those with stern moral fiber or weak constitutions.
well i guess i better trot back off to my innocent, snark and innuendo-free comment sections in future then? ah, who am i kidding...
- andy
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Dec 03 '04
6:04 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Tao of Pupa (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Real Suecret-
Is there a stapler in your snarkasm?
Yes, and please don't make fun; it's not a trifling matter. I'm thinking of pressing charges, so the offending party gets thrown in custard-y.
I decided to take a nap in it, is that wise use?
A good nap is always wise use of either time or space.
Because I'm an autumn.
What am I?
But even I, in my autumnal splendor, would never don a poop brown tuxedo. I heard that paisley is the new black.
And I heard that snarkasm is the new sincerity. But I'm not sure if I should believe it.
But the "squiggly squiggly" is actually "after we boil and eat the hirsute Canadian".
Boil? You should know by now that the best way to eat a Canadian is to top him (it) in curds and gravy. Yum.
At least you could mud wrestle at the reception and still get the deposit back on those things.
True enough. Brown is the new stain-resistant g-string.
Oh. Right. Top Genius and Real Secret.
*head explodes*
-hirmike canadian
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Dec 02 '04
8:45 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Andy,
i can't blame her... and i still love her. sometimes...
Exactly. I love the beast when he isn't barfing on the carpet.
i like it! fight for your youth, fight against all comers! you can even get the lego out and make a little ship or something.
As they say, you're as young as you look. No, that's not right.....
I helped build a stellar Lego Hogwarts that is currently on loan to my son's room. I'll get it back one day when he's old enough to think he's outgrown it and young enough not to realize that he'll never outgrow it. It looks just like this:
http://business.thisisyork.co.uk/londonsofheworth/img/hogwarts.jpg
How fabulous is that?
you're my hero(ine)!
Yes, but am I the wind beneath your wings? That's the real question.
alas, you go and ruin it all by suggesting that radiohead would even think of titling a song like that.
Yes, I do have a tendency to do things like that. I can't stop the flow of snark, I'm afraid. I've gone too far to the dark side.
unless someone does a really rawkin' cover of it in the future (maybe pearl jam?), after which it'd be a neat piece of trivia to know, i don't think i care to learn.
If Pearl Jam covered it, then it would just become a Pearl Jam song - because, well, they're Pearl Jam. I really want Eddie to grow his hair long again, I miss our connection.
an air filled doughnut to sit on? magical! i want one!
I have two - I'll send you one.
i'm even sorta considering getting pregnant just to experience the air-filled-doughnutness.
Do I need to get out the hand puppets for a little refresher course?
oh, and are these sample diapers smaller than regular diapers?
I can't remember - I've blocked diapers from my memory. I use wine to do that - it works really really well.
hath i unearthed something in the body/mind of sue? let me know, and i'll be glad to pander to it consistently and brilliantly.
Innuendo is the staff of life, I say. Where would we be without it? If you do manage to unearth anything in my mind, would you please dust it off and give it a swift kick? It undoubtedly has been up to no good, the filthy thing.
ah go on, it's more fun for you that way, i know what you're like.
Who told? Mike? Chris? Dammit! I'm usually so subtle and they go and reveal my secret sarcastic gene. Tosswanks.
plus, i won't take it personally. unless you make fun of my nose. then i'll cry.
If you wear a kilt can I make fun of that? Or your general Scottishness? In return, I'll let you make fun of my home state - where we drink bear and eat cheese and say things like "oh, geez".
you might've, but i think it was in the small, unreadable text on the contract.
Exactly as was instructed. Bwahahahahahahaha.....
will you let me away with silver?
Silver is fine if you're more comfortable with how it shows off your....assets.
i get the feeling that silver would be kinder on my crevace (tasteless? a bit TOO tasteless? yes, i think so).
There is nothing too tasteless in here. For proof, see, well, basically every comment in here. It's no place for those with stern moral fiber or weak constitutions. Which is why I hang out here....;)
Sue
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Dec 01 '04
10:03 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Tao of Pupa (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Mike Bearer,
No, no, no. You should know that, just like jello, there's always room for snarkasm.
Is there a stapler in your snarkasm?
And if there isn't, then I'll give you some room right now:
Use it wisely.
I decided to take a nap in it, is that wise use?
Do you really look good in brown? Because I can't see how that would be possible. Not that you wouldn't look good in brown. But that anyone would look good in brown. Not that I read the trendy fashion magazines, or anything, but I understand that black is the new Hawaiian shirt.
I do look good in brown. Because I'm an autumn. But even I, in my autumnal splendor, would never don a poop brown tuxedo. I heard that paisley is the new black.
My quick translation: "Sue is a dodo. Let's crucify her. Squiggly squiggly." You think?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. But the "squiggly squiggly" is actually "after we boil and eat the hirsute Canadian".
Actually, the night I wore mine, there were about half a dozen other men, all in the wedding party, all wearing brown tuxedoes.
Oh, the humanity. At least you could mud wrestle at the reception and still get the deposit back on those things.
If I can prevent the shame of just one four-year old ring bearer, then it will all have been worth it.
I'm afraid that, regardless of apparel, the shame of the ring bearer is eternal. Primarily because the mother of the ring bearer will display the photo of the ring bearer until the end of time. And point him out to all who enter her abode. That's what I would do.
"Real Genius" and "Top Secret!". Get those titles tattooed behind your eyeballs, because I'm not going to tell you again.
Oh. Right. Top Genius and Real Secret. Yeah, I'll get on that right now. Can you get a tattoo behind your eyeballs? Like one of Brad Pitt or something?
Unless you take too long in reviewing them. Then I'll tell you every day.
Reviewing what?
Suetumnal
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Dec 01 '04
9:39 pm PST
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Re: Sexy review (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Chris,
If I didn't know any better, I'd assume that this was a modern day classic. The fact that it stars Ashton Kutcher causes me to believe otherwise.
Yeah, I don't think I'd go anywhere so far as calling it a classic. Ashton is too big a dork. But it's pretty good anyway.
Anyway, a groin-pleasing review. Loved the line "The film doesn't jump right in and start mucking with the space time continuum though
As always, pleasing your groin is high on my list of priorities. Score one for me!
I never knew you chicks were so clued up on the whole process of 'mucking' around with science. Your technical breakdown is astounding.
Well, when the likes of James T. Kirk take the time to teach you things, you damn well better listen. I know plenty of Trek-ish technobabble. And I'll tell it all to you for only $9.99 per minute.
And pleased he no doubt is.
Inner nerd is a girl! She's sad now because you think she looks like a boy.
I would write more, but I'm given that Eps probably won't allow me to air this comment, I won't waste too much of your time.
You got it all fixed now, so don't be surly, it makes you look woeful, and we can't have any of that.
Sue
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Dec 01 '04
9:27 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Comment (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Marie,
I don't watch all the extras most of the time either..I usually just look for deleted stuff and bloopers.
I like to watch alternate endings, bloopers and interviews. The audio commentary is something I don't have a lot of patience for. Again, it involves watching the entire movie again - something I don't want to do.
Sue
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Dec 01 '04
9:19 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by andym173
sue,
In truth, he is sort of despicable. But I'm inexplicably attached to the old coot.
yeah well i think i know the feeling; my dog is 10 now and pretty cranky most of the time. actually, she just sleeps for about 75% of the day, and if i don't let her (i usually don't) then she gets very cranky with ME. ah, i can't blame her... and i still love her. sometimes... ;)
Mine would be imprinted with this: http://www.annetaintor.com/images/Magnets/00174.jpg
i like it! fight for your youth, fight against all comers! you can even get the lego out and make a little ship or something.
Never heard of it. Is it by some band called "Radiohead"?
you're my hero(ine)! you've never heard that torturous thing, and i'm insanely happy for you. alas, you go and ruin it all by suggesting that radiohead would even think of titling a song like that. pah! actually, i don't recall who sings it. and unless someone does a really rawkin' cover of it in the future (maybe pearl jam?), after which it'd be a neat piece of trivia to know, i don't think i care to learn.
It's one of those things they give you for free when you give birth, like a little sample pack of diapers and an air filled doughnut to sit on.
an air filled doughnut to sit on? magical! i want one! i'm even sorta considering getting pregnant just to experience the air-filled-doughnutness. oh, and are these sample diapers smaller than regular diapers? ;)
Good Lord, man, you don't want to know what's going on in my head. Now about that innuendo.....
hath i unearthed something in the body/mind of sue? let me know, and i'll be glad to pander to it consistently and brilliantly.
Well, and full out insults, but I won't serve you any of those.
ah go on, it's more fun for you that way, i know what you're like. plus, i won't take it personally. unless you make fun of my nose. then i'll cry.
Did I mention the golden thong dress code?
you might've, but i think it was in the small, unreadable text on the contract. will you let me away with silver? i get the feeling that silver would be kinder on my crevace (tasteless? a bit TOO tasteless? yes, i think so).
- andy
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Dec 01 '04
3:50 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The Tao of Pupa (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Suentilating-
Honey, if you eat that much snarkasm you'll get a tummy ache.
No, no, no. You should know that, just like jello, there's always room for snarkasm. And if there isn't, then I'll give you some room right now:
Use it wisely.
What kind of hat was it?
It was my lucky head a-splodin' hat:
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Studio/1528/image7.gif
Poop brown tuxedoes is serious - unless you look good in brown, like me. For you, well, it's downright tragic.
Do you really look good in brown? Because I can't see how that would be possible. Not that you wouldn't look good in brown. But that anyone would look good in brown. Not that I read the trendy fashion magazines, or anything, but I understand that black is the new Hawaiian shirt.
Well, think of it this way - at least the cavemen had proper tools (read: dirt) with which to fashion said hieroglyphics.
After a massive archaeological dig, I've uncovered the first of the infamous dirt brown hieroglyphics:
http://www.kottke.org/plus/photos/200105europe/hieroglyphics.jpg
My quick translation: "Sue is a dodo. Let's crucify her. Squiggly squiggly." You think?
Had it been something like powder blue, that would have been a problem. But I don't think the cavemen would have been wearing them. Because I think yours was the first and last ever made.
Actually, the night I wore mine, there were about half a dozen other men, all in the wedding party, all wearing brown tuxedoes. We made a pact that night never to talk of them again. I appear to have broken that pact. Oh well, the word must get out. If I can prevent the shame of just one four-year old ring bearer, then it will all have been worth it.
Is that the name of another Val Kilmer movie I'm supposed to see? It seems to me there were two of them.......
"Real Genius" and "Top Secret!". Get those titles tattooed behind your eyeballs, because I'm not going to tell you again.
Unless you take too long in reviewing them. Then I'll tell you every day.
-mikeroglyphics
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Dec 01 '04
7:12 am PST
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Sexy review (Reply to this comment)
by Simply_Crispy
Cinema release: people hated it
DVD release: people love it
If I didn't know any better, I'd assume that this was a modern day classic. The fact that it stars Ashton Kutcher causes me to believe otherwise.
Anyway, a groin-pleasing review. Loved the line "The film doesn't jump right in and start mucking with the space time continuum though
I never knew you chicks were so clued up on the whole process of 'mucking' around with science. Your technical breakdown is astounding.
(I do so love being able to throw a Star Trek term into the mix. It pleases my inner nerd)
And pleased he no doubt is.
I would write more, but I'm given that Eps probably won't allow me to air this comment, I won't waste too much of your time.
Chris
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Dec 01 '04
1:32 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Comment (Reply to this comment)
by dragonfire88, in Movies
Oh, that's weird. I wouldn't like that at all. The only time I would even consider it is if I've already seen the movie. And there are precious few movies I'm willing to sit through a second time just to see the DVD extras. I don't end up watching most DVD extras anyway - I certainly don't want them interrupting the movie.
It is weired. Gave me fits the first time I rented one like that. But I did manage to find the extras without going into playing the infifilm version. The DVD for this one gave me fits. At the time, I didn't want to sit through the movie again to see any deleted scenes or the other ending. I don't watch all the extras most of the time either..I usually just look for deleted stuff and bloopers.
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Nov 30 '04
11:20 pm PST
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Re: ... (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Søren (look at my "ø"! I'm absurdly proud),
One scene in this film was shot at my good ol' University o' British Columbia, along the Main Mall, just in front of the Rose Garden, home of Vancouver's most spectacular view of the water, mountains, a giant Canadian flag, and at any given time, a good number of stoners enjoying the scenery to its utmost.
Wait. I didn't see any Canadian-ness. Or mountains. Or water. Or very many stoners. Did I fall asleep or something?
But of course, any scenery is enjoyable when you're high, as long it's free of Ashton Kutcher. He just looks so... faggy.
I have to say that Ashton Kutcher does not make my heart flutter like a schoolgirl. But I think I've decided it's because he looks like a dork. And dumb. Bad combination as far as sex appeal goes, I'm afraid.
Sue
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Nov 30 '04
8:50 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Andy,
alas, the cranky, hissy, scary part sort of puts me off. i'm a real wimp at heart. still, i despise cats. sorry.
In truth, he is sort of despicable. But I'm inexplicably attached to the old coot.
if i DID have stationery printed, it'd probably say something like 'give quiche a chance'.
Mine would be imprinted with this:
http://www.annetaintor.com/images/Magnets/00174.jpg
egads! don't mention him!
I try not to think of him, but occasionally his image floats into my mind, unwelcome and uninvited. It's frightening.
for some reason it always brings into my head that god-awful song "crocodile shoes". if you haven't heard it yet, then be thankful.
Never heard of it. Is it by some band called "Radiohead"? ;)
well i'm studying psychology at university. you must be psychic.
I am. It's one of those things they give you for free when you give birth, like a little sample pack of diapers and an air filled doughnut to sit on.
i'll need to get you on the couch (for once, not a bit of innuendo intended here, though i imagine since it's me it'll still be taken that way by anyone else who reads this *sigh*).
Good Lord, man, you don't want to know what's going on in my head. Now about that innuendo.....
isn't it? i almost joined you in the pant-pissing contest when he brought that pole right up into that guy's mush at the movie theatre. ouch!
I knew I wasn't alone in the pants pissing club. If you saw that performance of Jeremy you'd wet yourself, too.
i prefer backspinned comments... i have a harder job of chasing them down, never mind catching them.
Then you'll do just fine in here, for that is about the only kind of compliment that seems to fly around this place. Well, and full out insults, but I won't serve you any of those.
i bet you were just lovely at 19
Funny, that's not really the adjective I associate with that time......
oh goody! benefits, you say? free flights to america, i hope...
Well, of course. A sycophant cannot properly wield his palm frond from across an ocean, it's a well known fact. Did I mention the golden thong dress code?
Sue
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Nov 30 '04
8:45 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: The Tao of Pupa (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Space Time Miketinuum,
And what would that sound like? "Mike is, um, not here. And he's, well, Canadian. Also -- a monkey." Scintillating.
I think I could do better than that. I really do. Don't you think so? I really think I could. I wonder if I'll try?
Give me a spoon, a straw, and a hot summer afternoon, and I'm a contented little boy.
Honey, if you eat that much snarkasm you'll get a tummy ache.
http://www.geocities.com/kiras666/blade/head-explode.jpg
Oh my. That's a shame.
It hurt a bit, and I think I ruined a new hat in the process. But I think it was worth the effort.
I suppose. What kind of hat was it?
With my luck, my mucking about would cause a massive new fashion trend: poop brown tuxedoes for everyone, men, women, children, animals... everyone.
That's right, because you can't just go around mucking and not expect there to be serious consequences. Poop brown tuxedoes is serious - unless you look good in brown, like me. For you, well, it's downright tragic.
Imagine the horror: caves and poop brown tuxedoes. The hieroglyphics alone would be enough to make my head explode.
Well, think of it this way - at least the cavemen had proper tools (read: dirt) with which to fashion said hieroglyphics. Had it been something like powder blue, that would have been a problem. But I don't think the cavemen would have been wearing them. Because I think yours was the first and last ever made.
Booooooooooooooooo!!!
Is that the name of another Val Kilmer movie I'm supposed to see? It seems to me there were two of them.......
Millikilmer
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Nov 30 '04
8:29 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Comment (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Marie,
If you watch that one, stuff pops up on the screen while the movie is playing. And at certain times, if you press a certain button on the remote to the DVD player, you'll be taken to one of the extras - from within the movie. So you leave the movie to see the extra. I haven't done that. When I watch the movie, I don't want to jump out to an extra.
Oh, that's weird. I wouldn't like that at all. The only time I would even consider it is if I've already seen the movie. And there are precious few movies I'm willing to sit through a second time just to see the DVD extras. I don't end up watching most DVD extras anyway - I certainly don't want them interrupting the movie.
Sue
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Nov 30 '04
8:20 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by andym173
sue,
Stay away from my cranky old cat, you brute... he'd hiss at you and scare you.
old? mwahahaha... the perfect target for my exploits! alas, the cranky, hissy, scary part sort of puts me off. i'm a real wimp at heart. still, i despise cats. sorry.
Well, I suppose. But it makes for a pretty funny image.
i think that's what i was going for there ;)
I'm going to print up some stationery for myself with that motto on it.
whereas i'll settle for my unintelligible handwriting being used in identifying whether i've written something or not. if i DID have stationery printed, it'd probably say something like 'give quiche a chance'.
As long as Crocodile Dundee is not involved in any way.
egads! don't mention him! not because his name actually reminds me of HIM, but for some reason it always brings into my head that god-awful song "crocodile shoes". if you haven't heard it yet, then be thankful. cool... some music i WON'T point you toward!
You should be a therapist.
well i'm studying psychology at university. you must be psychic. i'll need to get you on the couch (for once, not a bit of innuendo intended here, though i imagine since it's me it'll still be taken that way by anyone else who reads this *sigh*).
At least my hair doesn't look like his.
big girl's blouse, wasn't he? whereas you are infinitely scarier ;)
it's even more creepy once you begin to understand why he's so warped.
isn't it? i almost joined you in the pant-pissing contest when he brought that pole right up into that guy's mush at the movie theatre. ouch!
It probably had a little top spin on it, though.
i prefer backspinned comments... i have a harder job of chasing them down, never mind catching them. and they're probably more helpful for keeping my ego in check :) (my backhand sucks too, although weirdly only in tennis and not badminton, which i am really, really good at.)
No, I do not believe you are 19. I was a complete dork at 19 - shut the hell up mfunk - you're way ahead of the curve.
awwww thanks. most of the people i know aren't dorks either. a lot of incentive for me not to become one. but i bet you were just lovely at 19 :)
You may begin your official sycophant training at the next "Palm Fronds, House Boys and Tea Service" seminar that hist decides to hold. It's a demanding job, but the benefit package is excellent.
oh goody! benefits, you say? free flights to america, i hope...
- andy
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Nov 30 '04
7:32 am PST
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Re: Re: The Tao of Pupa (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Sueplode-
I would talk about you behind your back to the other commenters.
And what would that sound like? "Mike is, um, not here. And he's, well, Canadian. Also -- a monkey." Scintillating.
First the nose, then the ears, then the explosion. What do you suppose liquid snarkasm looks like? I'm guessing something like this:
http://www.whitecape.org/art/backgrounds/liquid-melodies/Liquid-Melodies_1024x768.jpg
Well, I don't know what it looks like in liquid form. I usually consume it in a float, like this:
http://www.shindigz.com/itm_img/2P061A.jpg
Give me a spoon, a straw, and a hot summer afternoon, and I'm a contented little boy.
you could take one for the team and let your head explode so we could all see the mesmerizing liquid snarkasm.
Done, and done:
http://www.geocities.com/kiras666/blade/head-explode.jpg
It hurt a bit, and I think I ruined a new hat in the process. But I think it was worth the effort.
If you had a time machine you'd be mucking around in the space time continuum so much we'd all still be living in caves. All in the futile attempt to get out of wearing a poop brown tuxedo.
With my luck, my mucking about would cause a massive new fashion trend: poop brown tuxedoes for everyone, men, women, children, animals... everyone. Imagine the horror: caves and poop brown tuxedoes. The hieroglyphics alone would be enough to make my head explode. Oops, there it goes again:
http://www.slowart.com/slow/industry/explode.jpg
Have you mentioned that movie to me before? It sounds vaguely familiar.
Booooooooooooooooo!!!
-mikeing about
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Nov 30 '04
7:02 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Comment (Reply to this comment)
by dragonfire88, in Movies
Ha! Now that's what I call on the fence!
I told you I didn't know how I felt about this one. Usually I can decide one way or the other, but there are a few movies that are like this for me.
I have no idea what ours was - I just tossed it in the player. But I'm annoyed when I can't access extras - or when they don't tell me that the wide screen version is on the other side of the disc. I almost watched a full screen edition of a movie this weekend before thinking to check the other side.
I don't always watch all the extras on DVDs, but I want to be able to find them and get to them easily. I had a heck of a time finding the deleted scenes for the first Harry Potter movie - and then after all I had to do to get them, there were only a few.
I have one or two DVDs that are the Infifilm ones. I've rented some others. They are a little..different in the set up. You can watch the movie like normal or watch the Infifilm version. If you watch that one, stuff pops up on the screen while the movie is playing. And at certain times, if you press a certain button on the remote to the DVD player, you'll be taken to one of the extras - from within the movie. So you leave the movie to see the extra. I haven't done that. When I watch the movie, I don't want to jump out to an extra.
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Nov 29 '04
9:41 pm PST
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Re: The Tao of Pupa (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Moink,
What would happen if I decided not to leave this comment?
I would talk about you behind your back to the other commenters.
Would the excess snarkasm, bubbling up inside my belly, run out my ears, my nose, and my mouth? Or would it build up enough pressure inside my skull to cause my head to explode?
The likeliest scenario, I believe, would involve both these outcomes. First the nose, then the ears, then the explosion. What do you suppose liquid snarkasm looks like? I'm guessing something like this:
http://www.whitecape.org/art/backgrounds/liquid-melodies/Liquid-Melodies_1024x768.jpg
Fabulous. It's Hypnotic Snark.
Best not try this particular experiment out, and just leave the damned comment instead.
Well, you could take one for the team and let your head explode so we could all see the mesmerizing liquid snarkasm.
If I had a time machine, I would travel back, oh, about a month ago. And I would replace "The Butterfly Effect" on your rental queue with something lighter, more upbeat, maybe even satirical.
If you had a time machine you'd be mucking around in the space time continuum so much we'd all still be living in caves. All in the futile attempt to get out of wearing a poop brown tuxedo.
Starring, let's say, Val Kilmer. I would do that, and I would force you to finally watch "Real Genius", which is about as bad a false advertisement of a title as this movie here, but guaranteed to make you chuckle regardless.
Have you mentioned that movie to me before? It sounds vaguely familiar.
Just think of the direction your life would take if I had such powers. Just think, indeed.
Now my head is going to explode.
Sue
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Nov 29 '04
8:58 pm PST
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Re: sadly, my inner nerd hasn't watched this one yet (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Brian,
why doesn't Ashton Kutcher doing severe things on purpose set off an entire climate disaster? (Or does it, and i've just wandered into spoiler territory? Also, i wonder if Dude, Where's My Car? accelerated the greenhouse effect like 10-and-a-half times.)
I think I can safely tell you that this is not a weather-centric film. As far As "Dude....", I'm not sure about climate changes, but I suspect it will contribute to landfill issues at some point.
That said, i bet i'll think it's to the movie's credit that it takes a ridiculously long time to set up its premise.
It is......and it isn't. It's only a matter of it being uneven that's a problem.
films like Cat in the Hat, where the premise takes two minutes, the plot takes five minutes, and improvised fart jokes take fifteen-to-life.
There is something very wrong with an industry that turns Dr. Seuss into fart jokes. Not that I don't appreciate a good fart joke now and then, but they should not sully the good Dr.
Having a serious idea (even if the _wrong_ serious idea) and trying to present it sanely and likeably: hey, that's quite an experiment. Glad you basically liked the results.
I did. Sure, it's ludicrous in places, but you have to expect that as part and parcel of the genre. Supernatural stuff just isn't going to fit in with hyper-realism very well. I can live with that. As long as nobody brings Dr Seuss into it.
Sue
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Nov 29 '04
8:49 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Comment (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Marie,
Some are pretty bad. This was unique..and I did like some parts. Just not sure how I feel overall about it still I guess. Maybe if I watched it again..but I'm not completly sure I want to do that either.
Ha! Now that's what I call on the fence!
Well..I think it was the director's cut ending. The DVD was that Infifilm thing and it was very difficult to access any of the extras on the DVD. Took me a while to finally find the other endings. I have other DVDs that are that Infifilm thing, but they weren't as difficult for me to navigate though to find the extras.
I have no idea what ours was - I just tossed it in the player. But I'm annoyed when I can't access extras - or when they don't tell me that the wide screen version is on the other side of the disc. I almost watched a full screen edition of a movie this weekend before thinking to check the other side.
Sue
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Nov 29 '04
8:43 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Andy,
well, assuming that our forefathers were anything like me, they must've hated cats back in the day.
Stay away from my cranky old cat, you brute. He's in enough peril from teetering stacks of books waiting to be read - he doesn't need any swinging. Besides, he'd hiss at you and scare you.
(i mean, i couldn't exactly see someone swinging their golden retriever around the room without causing themselves permanent bodily harm.)
Well, I suppose. But it makes for a pretty funny image.
i'm with you there. all modern, full pixelated colour and british/american, as far as i'm concerned! we might be closed-minded, but we're also lazy! (wait, those two don't exactly cancel each other out...)
I'm going to print up some stationery for myself with that motto on it.
I know I'm supposed to appreciate classic films and I know there are fabulous foreign films out there waiting for me to love them, yet I don't want to. I am, however, willing to open myself to the possibility of Australian and New Zealand as potential film sources. As long as Crocodile Dundee is not involved in any way.
that's the only case of 'shopping trauma' i've ever had. and i think i relieved it by promptly picking up my dog and swinging her around the room
Yay! Now that's what I call proactive trauma recovery. You should be a therapist.
and you tell me you don't know anything about music... kurt cobain would be proud
At least my hair doesn't look like his.
there are WAY too many scenarios played out, i'd say. i'd completely forgotten about some of them since the first viewing.
Marsha mentioned that, too. I think it's a valid criticism - that they could have toned it down a bit by keeping the focus a little tighter - leaving out a few of the changes.
still, tommy just so happens to be one of the best 'bad guys' i've seen lately in the first half of that film. he really brings up a rage inside of me that i never knew existed.
He is soooooo creepy. And it's even more creepy once you begin to understand why he's so warped. Don't vent that rage on my cat.
thanks! i guess i'll take that as a (backhanded?) compliment. kinda like 'well at least you don't look like a dork!' but it's okay... i knew what you meant. how nice of you
My backhand sucks, it was a forehand (or perhaps a high lob) compliment. It probably had a little top spin on it, though. I need to practice that with my coach.
19 (can you believe i'm that young? can you??)... and i actually forgot that those two were together! are they still? i remember thinking kutcher looked really out of place next to bruce willis' kids. oh, and i dunno if i'd date demi... girl was hot in "disclosure", but i'm not a big fan of her in general.
No, I do not believe you are 19. I was a complete dork at 19 - shut the hell up mfunk - you're way ahead of the curve.
I think Ashton and Demi (we're on a first name basis, dontcha know) are still together, though I haven't browsed the grocery aisle tabloids in a while, so I could be wrong. I bet he looked out of place next to her kids. He looks out of place next to her. But that might be because she looks sort of weird and plastic now.
yay! so when do i start?
You may begin your official sycophant training at the next "Palm Fronds, House Boys and Tea Service" seminar that hist decides to hold. It's a demanding job, but the benefit package is excellent.
Sue
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Nov 29 '04
8:40 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Dude, Where's My Chaos Theory? (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Becky,
I think Ashton would look really good in drag.
Wouldn't he though? He should go with that look from now on.
He definitely seems to lack brain cells, and pretending that he's into Kabballah doesn't help.
Nothing really helps when "Dude, Where's My Car?" is an actual career choice you've made. I hope he made a lot of money for that, because I think it's going to haunt him for years.
Sue
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Nov 29 '04
8:18 pm PST
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The Tao of Pupa (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Sue-
What would happen if I decided not to send that letter? Or said hello to that person on the street? Or any of the other ten thousand things we do in a day?
What would happen if I decided not to leave this comment? Would the excess snarkasm, bubbling up inside my belly, run out my ears, my nose, and my mouth? Or would it build up enough pressure inside my skull to cause my head to explode? Best not try this particular experiment out, and just leave the damned comment instead.
If I had a time machine, I would travel back, oh, about a month ago. And I would replace "The Butterfly Effect" on your rental queue with something lighter, more upbeat, maybe even satirical. Starring, let's say, Val Kilmer. I would do that, and I would force you to finally watch "Real Genius", which is about as bad a false advertisement of a title as this movie here, but guaranteed to make you chuckle regardless.
Just think of the direction your life would take if I had such powers. Just think, indeed.
-mike
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Nov 29 '04
11:43 am PST
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sadly, my inner nerd hasn't watched this one yet (Reply to this comment)
by voxpoptart
But the other buggersome thing, premise-wise, is that if a butterfly flapping its wings can create a hurricane, why doesn't Ashton Kutcher doing severe things on purpose set off an entire climate disaster? (Or does it, and i've just wandered into spoiler territory? Also, i wonder if Dude, Where's My Car? accelerated the greenhouse effect like 10-and-a-half times.)
That said, i bet i'll think it's to the movie's credit that it takes a ridiculously long time to set up its premise. Movie history has been a lot more willing to spout out films like Dune, where 1000 pages of universe-spinning are coughed up in random, unconnected bits. Or films like Cat in the Hat, where the premise takes two minutes, the plot takes five minutes, and improvised fart jokes take fifteen-to-life. Having a serious idea (even if the _wrong_ serious idea) and trying to present it sanely and likeably: hey, that's quite an experiment. Glad you basically liked the results.
cheers,
- Brian
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Nov 29 '04
11:20 am PST
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Re: Re: Comment (Reply to this comment)
by dragonfire88, in Movies
I can definitely see how it would strike people that way. I didn't actually sit on the fence at all - a good thriller is hard to find.
That's true. Some are pretty bad. This was unique..and I did like some parts. Just not sure how I feel overall about it still I guess. Maybe if I watched it again..but I'm not completly sure I want to do that either.
Now I liked the director's cut ending (which is the one I assume you're referring to). It's definitely extreme - maybe that's why it appealed to me.
Well..I think it was the director's cut ending. The DVD was that Infifilm thing and it was very difficult to access any of the extras on the DVD. Took me a while to finally find the other endings. I have other DVDs that are that Infifilm thing, but they weren't as difficult for me to navigate though to find the extras.
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Nov 28 '04
9:47 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by andym173
sue,
Can't swing a cat around here without hitting one. Where the hell did that saying come from, do you suppose?
well, assuming that our forefathers were anything like me, they must've hated cats back in the day. thus, the irresistable urge to swing them around the room. plus, they're easier to handle than pretty much any other pet -- aside from fish, hamsters, guinea pigs, rats, and all those other pointless little things that don't really count as 'pets', per se. (i mean, i couldn't exactly see someone swinging their golden retriever around the room without causing themselves permanent bodily harm.)
it might be in black and white. Or foreign. I don't know about you, but that pretty much rules out me ever hearing of it. Or seeing it, probably......
i'm with you there. all modern, full pixelated colour and british/american, as far as i'm concerned! we might be closed-minded, but we're also lazy! (wait, those two don't exactly cancel each other out...)
Shopping trauma is only overcome by shopping more.
that's the only case of 'shopping trauma' i've ever had. and i think i relieved it by promptly picking up my dog and swinging her around the room ;
Nirvana, I tell you.
and you tell me you don't know anything about music... kurt cobain would be proud :)
completely depending on what's for dinner, of course
macaroni and cheese! so it was most definitely worth it. (oh, as a side note, i managed to squeeze in a second viewing of the movie yesterday before i went out for the night... i actually think the first half is just about as frenetic as the second one! although there are WAY too many scenarios played out, i'd say. i'd completely forgotten about some of them since the first viewing. still, tommy just so happens to be one of the best 'bad guys' i've seen lately in the first half of that film. he really brings up a rage inside of me that i never knew existed.)
I think Ashton Kutcher looks like a dork. So you don't resemble him in the slightest.
thanks! i guess i'll take that as a (backhanded?) compliment. kinda like 'well at least you don't look like a dork!' but it's okay... i knew what you meant. how nice of you :)
But if you're under 21 you probably have a good chance at dating Demi Moore!
19 (can you believe i'm that young? can you??)... and i actually forgot that those two were together! are they still? i remember thinking kutcher looked really out of place next to bruce willis' kids. oh, and i dunno if i'd date demi... girl was hot in "disclosure", but i'm not a big fan of her in general.
you can be my palm frond bearing sycophant (alongside hist, who is head frond bearing sycophant)
yay! so when do i start?
- andy
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Nov 28 '04
3:32 pm PST
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Re: Re: Dude, Where's My Chaos Theory? (Reply to this comment)
by beckytcy
Maybe Ashton Kutcher will play Cher in the story of her life!
I think Ashton would look really good in drag.
I only know he looks vapid when walking next to Demi Moore having his picture taken.
He definitely seems to lack brain cells, and pretending that he's into Kabballah doesn't help.
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Nov 28 '04
10:12 am PST
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Re: Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Patti,
Inner nerds unite!
You know it! There are lots of them out there, you know, that have never seen the light of day. Poor inner nerds.
I know I got all tingly inside.
Don't you just love it? Some day, I swear, I will use the phrase "venting plasma" in a review. And not a porn review, either.
Thanks for posting a review that really makes me feel like I *have* to see this film.
I believe that your inner nerd will be pleased. Make it so!
Sue
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Nov 27 '04
8:09 pm PST
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Re: Dude, Where's My Chaos Theory? (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Cher,
If she could turn back time, if she could find a way, she'd take back those words that hurt him, and he'd stay.
If she could reach the stars, she'd give them all to him. Then he'd love her, love her, like he used to do.
Maybe Ashton Kutcher will play Cher in the story of her life!
Ha. I can picture that. It sounds terrible. I find it hard to take Ashton Kutcher seriously. He's in That '70s Show and Dude, Where's My Car after all!
Yeah, that effect was, well, not good. Not bad enough to ruin the movie, but really not good. I haven't seen Ashton Kutcher in anything before, so he was more or less new to me. I only know he looks vapid when walking next to Demi Moore having his picture taken. Which, I suppose, is not exactly high praise.....
Sue
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Nov 27 '04
8:04 pm PST
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Re: Oh SueNami... (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Marsha,
You just had to go and see this because I hated it, didn't you?! (You said you would, and I smiled when I saw this in my inbox.)
You are exactly right! I didn't really have any intentions of seeing it, but after reading your review, I just had to - and I ended up liking the thing!
I did not like Evan, ever.
Not even as a wee tyke? A small lad? A gangling teen? A dumbshit adult?
And there's a difference between complicated and complete chaos, which I felt the film deteriorated into.
You mean, like, chaos theory? Sorry, I couldn't help it - I have chaos theory on the brain.
I didn't feel they picked up the pieces, I feel like they just kept slapping on ideas as they went along.
Nah. They did a good job. It was a fun ride - admit it, you liked it a little, didn't you? Come on.........
I think if they would have kept it to two or three changes, and played out those consequences, it would have been far more powerful.
Good point. If they hadn't heightened the pace at the end as they did - keeping things less frantic, would the story have held together better, with less room for error? Maybe.
Oh, and here's why I didn't like Evan: Kutcher played him stupid. Or maybe he was just stupid all along. But he couldn't even pick the right thing to change, even after like the 100th time!
I'm not entirely convinced that Kutcher isn't stupid - but that's neither here nor there. I think they were trying to show that he could never predict what would happen, no matter what he picked.
Supernatural poopernatural... the butterfly needs to be run over and never heard from again! HA! What do you think about that?!
~sniff~ But I like the supernatural, and the paranormal. And the creepy and unlikely. If you run over my supernatural butterfly, it won't get the chance to show me all its nifty powers!
Seriously, I'm glad you enjoyed it way more than I did. I got nothing from this but a headache. I guess my inner nerd is harder to please than yours.
I did enjoy it - and my inner nerd was happy as could be. Both Star Trek references and the paranormal? Are you kidding? It's like telling the inner nerd that Jean Luc Picard is going to be on an episode of the X-Files. Heaven!
I did love your review, though, even if you failed to credit my hatred of this film as being one of the catalysts to get you to watch it. That's okay, though, my inner nerd can handle it.
It's true - your hatred is what caused me to see the film. Thanks, Marsha's hatred!
Just please stop going through my journals and shaking yourself so hard. It was a special effect, sweetie. You can't recreate it, and I don't want you to start having seizures, or stroking out on me, all right? All right.
Okay. If you say so. But can we go to the Star Trek convention? Pleeeaaase?
Sue's outer nerd
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Nov 27 '04
7:58 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Andy,
hmmm... now there's one for a movie trivia master. do we have any of them around here?
Ha! Can't swing a cat around here without hitting one. Where the hell did that saying come from, do you suppose? Regardless, it's true.
if it's been done, the fact that neither of us know about it is the only excuse we have for sitting here typing out comments to each other when we could be, like, going out and renting it or something!
If it has been done, it might be in black and white. Or foreign. I don't know about you, but that pretty much rules out me ever hearing of it. Or seeing it, probably......
ah, the unknow joys of shopping online. well, they're unknown to me, ever since that nasty incident with the mobile phone (cellphone to you). *shudders* maybe someday i'll get over that.
Shopping trauma is only overcome by shopping more. At least for women. I don't know about your species....;)
i know what you mean about the 'actual money' thing. same deal with a credit card, and that's the main reason i don't have one.
Which is probably smart. but you know what the great thing is about online shopping? You don't even have some voice telling you your total - you can completely ignore it as if it didn't exist at all. Nirvana, I tell you.
just please don't bring out the hand puppets. that would scar me for life.
I had to retire the hand puppets when the rheumatism got bad back in the summer of 1816. Sad day, that. Sex education hasn't been the same since.
the second half was broken up for me, since i started watching it around 4pm and dinner-time (yay!) interrupted, so maybe that's why i didn't start hyperventilating during it.
Oh, that would drive me crazy (completely depending on what's for dinner, of course). But it certainly does get frenetic at the end.
wow! a fine way for me to get myself into the acting biz without having actual talent! all i need is an ashton kutcher wig. c'mon, surely i'm a shoe-in given my ravishing ashton kutcher-like good looks and charm... right?
Well, I may be in the minority, but I think Ashton Kutcher looks like a dork. So you don't resemble him in the slightest. But if you're under 21 you probably have a good chance at dating Demi Moore!
i'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request
Oh, you're good, Barbossa.
This is either madness.....or brilliance. It's remarkable how often those two traits coincide.
i'd love to be a palm frond bearing sycophant, alas dis has always kind of scared me a little bit, so i doubt i'd want to be under her quasi-rule... is that normal? ;)
Quite normal. It's natural to fear an Empress. But never you mind, you can be my palm frond bearing sycophant (alongside hist, who is head frond bearing sycophant) until you learn that there is nothing to fear from dis but a lifetime supply of golden thongs. Wait, maybe that is something to fear........
Sue
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Nov 27 '04
7:46 pm PST
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Re: I didn't know (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Barbara,
Yes, it did have a few faults to nitpick but all in all I liked it and enjoyed the DVD extras....:)
Me too. I love thrillers and so many of them are so bad - this wasn't perfect, but I thought it was fun nonetheless.
Sue
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Nov 27 '04
7:22 pm PST
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Re: Comment (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Marie,
I rented this one a whlie ago now. I didn't review it because I couldn't really decide what I thought about it. I liked some aspects but didn't some others. I keep going back and forth on if I liked it too.
I can definitely see how it would strike people that way. I didn't actually sit on the fence at all - a good thriller is hard to find.
I didn't have a problem with how it ended from the theatrical version. Maybe a little..cheesy, but it didn't bother me. The one ending on the DVD was ok..but the one...that seemed to be just a bit too..extreme or something for me.
Now I liked the director's cut ending (which is the one I assume you're referring to). It's definitely extreme - maybe that's why it appealed to me.
Sue
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Nov 27 '04
7:06 pm PST
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Dude, Where's My Chaos Theory? (Reply to this comment)
by beckytcy
I, too, am fascinated by chaos theory, or maybe it's time travel... So is Cher. If she could turn back time, if she could find a way, she'd take back those words that hurt him, and he'd stay.
we get a sort of wiggly wobbly effect that is far too reminiscent of a "Wayne's World" skit.
Ha. I can picture that. It sounds terrible. I find it hard to take Ashton Kutcher seriously. He's in That '70s Show and Dude, Where's My Car after all!
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Nov 27 '04
4:59 pm PST
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Re: Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by AliventiAsylum, in Movies
Inner nerds unite!
(I do so love being able to throw a Star Trek term into the mix. It pleases my inner nerd).
I know I got all tingly inside.
Thanks for posting a review that really makes me feel like I *have* to see this film.
Patti
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Nov 27 '04
2:50 pm PST
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Oh SueNami... (Reply to this comment)
by katmar
You just had to go and see this because I hated it, didn't you?! (You said you would, and I smiled when I saw this in my inbox.)
No no no no no... I did not like Evan, ever. And there's a difference between complicated and complete chaos, which I felt the film deteriorated into. I didn't feel they picked up the pieces, I feel like they just kept slapping on ideas as they went along.
But I did love your remark about the pacing, and how you felt the first half dragged, only to feel the second half dragged you along behind it. I think if they would have kept it to two or three changes, and played out those consequences, it would have been far more powerful.
Oh, and here's why I didn't like Evan: Kutcher played him stupid. Or maybe he was just stupid all along. But he couldn't even pick the right thing to change, even after like the 100th time!
Supernatural poopernatural... the butterfly needs to be run over and never heard from again! HA! What do you think about that?!
Seriously, I'm glad you enjoyed it way more than I did. I got nothing from this but a headache. I guess my inner nerd is harder to please than yours. :)
I did love your review, though, even if you failed to credit my hatred of this film as being one of the catalysts to get you to watch it. That's okay, though, my inner nerd can handle it.
Just please stop going through my journals and shaking yourself so hard. It was a special effect, sweetie. You can't recreate it, and I don't want you to start having seizures, or stroking out on me, all right? All right.
Your lovely neighbor,
Marsha
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Nov 27 '04
10:14 am PST
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Re: Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by andym173
sue,
following a small action through its chain of reactions and to its ultimate end. Its probably been done and I just don't know about it
hmmm... now there's one for a movie trivia master. do we have any of them around here? if it's been done, the fact that neither of us know about it is the only excuse we have for sitting here typing out comments to each other when we could be, like, going out and renting it or something!
You're talking to a woman who just today had an epic online shopping spasm. God, it was great
ah, the unknow joys of shopping online. well, they're unknown to me, ever since that nasty incident with the mobile phone (cellphone to you). *shudders* maybe someday i'll get over that. i know what you mean about the 'actual money' thing. same deal with a credit card, and that's the main reason i don't have one.
I'll save any motherly-ness for when we have our talk about the birds and the bees, sonny.
just please don't bring out the hand puppets. that would scar me for life.
I suppose the very legitimate argument could be made that you wouldn't want to have the whole thing as rapid-fire as the second half, it would be exhausting.
well, exactly! the second half was broken up for me, since i started watching it around 4pm and dinner-time (yay!) interrupted, so maybe that's why i didn't start hyperventilating during it.
"Look like Ashton Kutcher could conceivably have looked at age seven? Have we got a deal for you!!"
wow! a fine way for me to get myself into the acting biz without having actual talent! all i need is an ashton kutcher wig. c'mon, surely i'm a shoe-in given my ravishing ashton kutcher-like good looks and charm... right?
The theatrical ending is just a little more "Hollywood" - like it was designed to play well with a focus group rather than really fitting the movie.
i got another stupid ending on the DVD i think. didn't really pay much attention to it, but it involved evan and that girl walking down the street and bumping into each other etc... pretty dumb. and i think one girl in my psychology class told me the actual ending one day, but i forgot that too. oh, how easily things slip out of my tiny little pea-brain!
Would you like to be a palm frond bearing sycophant in the SueStephian Empire that I'll be setting up with disinclined?
i'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request (okay, so it doesn't really fit, but i managed to work steph's username in AND quote "pirates of the caribbean". in other words, how much do i rawk?). i'd love to be a palm frond bearing sycophant, alas dis has always kind of scared me a little bit, so i doubt i'd want to be under her quasi-rule... is that normal? ;)
- andy
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Nov 27 '04
7:01 am PST
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I didn't know (Reply to this comment)
by ifif1938
what to expect when I rented it on the recommendation of someone who works at Blockbuster...Yes, it did have a few faults to nitpick but all in all I liked it and enjoyed the DVD extras....:)
Great review!
Barbara
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Nov 27 '04
6:02 am PST
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Re: my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Andy,
yeah, i was a bit miffed when i read about this movie supposedly exploring 'the chaos theory' (oooh, mystical) only to find really nothing substantial about it at all within.
I think a really cool movie could be made about the real chaos theory. You know, following a small action through its chain of reactions and to its ultimate end. Its probably been done and I just don't know about it - but I still think it would be cool in the right hands.
(yes, i spend my money stupidly. no, don't get all motherly on me... please.)
You're talking to a woman who just today had an epic online shopping spasm. God, it was great - it's almost not like actual money when you shop online! Anyway, I'll save any motherly-ness for when we have our talk about the birds and the bees, sonny. Now hand me my walker.......;)
i guess what i thought was the best thing about the film was its impact in the first half.
I did like the first half - but also though it didn't pace well with the second half. I suppose the very legitimate argument could be made that you wouldn't want to have the whole thing as rapid-fire as the second half, it would be exhausting. But there are definitely some things that went on that I didn't expect - and really set up the way he felt about things in the second half.
(and as a side note somewhat related to a point you made in your review, how did they manage to get so many kids that so accurately resemble a mini-ashton kutcher? it's quite incredible.)
I've no idea - but they did a good job, especially with the little boy. What do you put in the audition announcement for that? "Look like Ashton Kutcher could conceivably have looked at age seven? Have we got a deal for you!!"
in the second half i just felt things got really ridiculous. in what had been shaping up to be quite a harrowing psychological-type thingy (nah, i'm no good with the technical terms), things just got out-of-hand and severely amusing (to me, anyway).
See, and I just ate that up - well, most of it anyway. Some of it is over the top. But in the end I thought it shook out well and came together.
i'd like to see what the original ending was, because to my mind this alternative is just ludicrous. even if it does conform to the film's ideas and all that...
The theatrical ending is just a little more "Hollywood" - like it was designed to play well with a focus group rather than really fitting the movie. Not horrible, but not as gleefully "into" the whole idea as the director's cut.
and, spurred on by your review, i may just watch it again in the near future.
I won't. Because I spent all my video rental money shopping online......
because you've got that kind of an influence on me ;)
Oooh! I wonder what I can get you to do? Would you like to be a palm frond bearing sycophant in the SueStephian Empire that I'll be setting up with disinclined? We only take the very best, you know.......;)
Sue
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Nov 26 '04
11:04 pm PST
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Comment (Reply to this comment)
by dragonfire88, in Movies
I rented this one a whlie ago now. I didn't review it because I couldn't really decide what I thought about it. I liked some aspects but didn't some others. I keep going back and forth on if I liked it too.
I did find a few different endings on the DVD. I didn't have a problem with how it ended from the theatrical version. Maybe a little..cheesy, but it didn't bother me. The one ending on the DVD was ok..but the one...that seemed to be just a bit too..extreme or something for me.
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Nov 26 '04
10:58 pm PST
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Re: That's the guy (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
OCF,
who starred in "Dude, Where's My Car?". Right? {never seen it, never will}.
I think so. I've also never seen it, and likely never will. I don't watch the TV show he's on, so I've never really seen him in anything before. Except the tabloids.
It was assumed by me that this movie was some kind of attempt to compete with Donnie Darko or something, if that's even possible.
I don't think so - at least it sure didn't turn out that way. It's more of a straight on thriller. Granted, there are a lot of supernatural aspects (I'm a sucker for that crap) but at the core - thriller.
I may check it out one of these days now that my curiosity is piqued by your critique and these comments.
It's really pretty good - but do put your rational self away before you watch it. Preferably in a locked closet or something, lest it come out in the middle of the movie and ruin it for you.
Sue
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Nov 26 '04
10:49 pm PST
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Re: ---------------- (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Jack,
Well, we both agree on this unfairly critically-savaged film, Sue Who's Got a Clue For Once.
I didn't expect to like it very much. Quite a pleasant surprise.
Agree about its lead actor: nothing special, but nothing to spit at either. In fact, I think a deeper actor would have probably lent the film more valid seriousness than the material could probably hold.
Probably true. I can't imagine someone with a lot of dramatic presence pulling off the scaredy faces and the Wayne's World memory thing - there's a kind of overacting that's needed to play these scenes without gutting them entirely by being too serious or bursting out laughing in the middle. Kutcher is just middle of the road enough to pull it off.
And I liked the relaxed, takes-its-time beginning. Gosh forbid, it actually gave me the opportunity to get to know the characters.
I appreciated it, but did think its unevenness with the second half was distracting.
Very few films manage to scare me, but, I tell ya, this sucker scared the living daylights out of me a few times in the first-half. That psycho friend of the hero's was the stuff of nightmares (even more so to a parent, I'll bet).
He was, indeed, very scary. The whole circumstance around that family was scary because even in an over the top thriller like this, you got a whiff of potential reality from that situation that was creepy as hell.
Actually, I wasn't particularly impressed with Ms. Smart before, but I thought she gave quite an emotionally complete performance here.
She was okay. She annoyed me on a couple of occasions, but it wasn't exactly an easy role. Again, a higher profile actress might not have done as well.
(need a cold shower now)
Don't you always?
Sue
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Nov 26 '04
10:45 pm PST
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Re: 8;8 (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Sadgit,
The above is my attempt at a Butterfly emoticon.
That's actually quite a good butterfly. Or it could be this:
8!8
or this:
8 ¡ 8
Oh my, I should stop now before I spend all night with this......
This is great review of a film that I don't think I could ever review.
Yes you could! Come on, write the review - you know you want to.......
Somehow it feels brimming with loaded material for a soap drama, and yet lacks the epicness of a good fantasy. Something feels missing about the thing and like you, I do feel the flashback effect was spelled out too much.
The lengthy set up is, I think, what gives it the drama feel. Lots of angst there. But the core is really a thriller, and there I think it succeeds pretty well.
Curiously enough I was reading "It" at the time I saw this
I think the only thing I did while reading "IT" was read "IT".....
and never failed to miss the "repressed memories" theme, right down to the reappearance of scars on the hands. It was the director's cut version I saw and I also didn't miss the biblical overtones of the ending.
The whole thing was one giant repressed memory. Or repressed memories wrapped in repressed memories and topped with a repressed memory, if you will. I much preferred the director's cut ending - it made a delicious sort of sense given the information we got about him and his family throughout.
Sue
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Nov 26 '04
10:36 pm PST
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Re: Just watched this film.... (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Bryan,
I haven't composed a review yet in part because of its unusual aspects as a movie. It's a tough one to rate.
It is hard to rate. I liked it, yet recognize that it has enough flaws not to be a four star film, yet it's better then average for the genre. So three and a half it is for me. Good luck deciding!
Sue
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Nov 26 '04
10:27 pm PST
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my inner nerd is about to speak up (Reply to this comment)
by andym173
yeah, i was a bit miffed when i read about this movie supposedly exploring 'the chaos theory' (oooh, mystical) only to find really nothing substantial about it at all within. ah, well. i guess i feel the same way that you do about the movie. (i've got it on DVD, and i've only watched it once, just so you know. yes, i spend my money stupidly. no, don't get all motherly on me... please.)
i guess what i thought was the best thing about the film was its impact in the first half. (and as a side note somewhat related to a point you made in your review, how did they manage to get so many kids that so accurately resemble a mini-ashton kutcher? it's quite incredible.) i mean, when i first watched it, and it got to that part in the basement with the kids and the home movie... i literally jumped in my seat when they were suddenly without clothing before my eyes! i guess i just didn't really expect it... nor did i expect to see a dog being burned inside a bag -- distressing, and probably one of the reasons i haven't watched the movie again.
but the other reason was the entire second half. i, unlike you, thought that the first half was intriguing, exciting, and all that good stuff. but in the second half i just felt things got really ridiculous. in what had been shaping up to be quite a harrowing psychological-type thingy (nah, i'm no good with the technical terms), things just got out-of-hand and severely amusing (to me, anyway).
like evan having no arms and legs (was that it? i don't recall...). but the one thing i had to explode with laughter at was the ending!! how outrageously unrealistic can you get? seriously, i'd like to see the cinema version of this one; i'd like to see what the original ending was, because to my mind this alternative is just ludicrous. even if it does conform to the film's ideas and all that...
still, despite all of this, i didn't think the movie was terrible, merely middling. and, spurred on by your review, i may just watch it again in the near future.
because you've got that kind of an influence on me ;)
- andy
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Nov 26 '04
5:08 pm PST
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That's the guy (Reply to this comment)
by oldcomixfan
who starred in "Dude, Where's My Car?". Right? {never seen it, never will}. It was assumed by me that this movie was some kind of attempt to compete with Donnie Darko or something, if that's even possible.
I may check it out one of these days now that my curiosity is piqued by your critique and these comments.
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Nov 26 '04
1:04 pm PST
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8;8 (Reply to this comment)
by sadgit
The above is my attempt at a Butterfly emoticon.
This is great review of a film that I don't think I could ever review. Somehow it feels brimming with loaded material for a soap drama, and yet lacks the epicness of a good fantasy. Something feels missing about the thing and like you, I do feel the flashback effect was spelled out too much.
Curiously enough I was reading "It" at the time I saw this, and never failed to miss the "repressed memories" theme, right down to the reappearance of scars on the hands. It was the director's cut version I saw and I also didn't miss the biblical overtones of the ending.
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Nov 26 '04
11:02 am PST
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Just watched this film.... (Reply to this comment)
by Bryan_Carey, in Movies
on dvd, rented from the store. I haven't composed a review yet in part because of its unusual aspects as a movie. It's a tough one to rate.
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Nov 26 '04
9:34 am PST
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